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What are the Banks Thinking !?!? Part 2

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with Housing Market Realty

I am usually not a very big proponent of playing the "Blame Game".  However, I think we all agree that we need to isolate the cause of a problem in order to determine the cure.  Once again, lenders are at the root of the problem.  Another blogger, wrote about the  issue of lenders writing down the valuations of commercial loans and forcing builders (in this case) out of business; see her blog here: http://activerain.com/blogsview/900356/Forget-The-Market-How-Will-The-Builders-Survive-the-Banks  In this instance a solid, established builder is effectivley put out of business by bank greed.

Last evening at a trade association meeting, consisting of realtors and mortgage professionals, I kept hearing the same issue: APPRAISALS.  Many appraisers are using time value adjustments to de-value properties, the same way they over-valued on the way up.  In one example it was 4% PER MONTH.  At that rate in approximately 2 years the property will be worth ZERO!!  What is going on?!  We have buyers who want to buy, are qualified but the lenders are OTL (out to lunch)!! 

Then this morning, I see this article:  http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20090205/COLUMNIST/902050334/2117/REALESTATE?Title=Abuse_of_the_appraisal_process . The same issue is being faced by many commercial property owners, in the name of greed.  The "mark the market" concept is being used to extract cash from borrowers that are current on their loans and otherwise surviving.  This technique threatens what little stability is left in our market.  I am a believer in a free market economy and generally don't approve of government intervention, but in this instance, our elected officials need to do something NOW!!   Let's all rally to stay educated and politically involved.

Brent Johnson
Chase International South Tahoe Realty - South Lake Tahoe, CA

I don't think that the banks are thinking , they are just doing!

Feb 05, 2009 01:23 AM
Karen Fiddler, Broker/Owner
Karen Parsons-Fiddler, Broker 949-510-2395 - Mission Viejo, CA
Orange County & Lake Arrowhead, CA (949)510-2395

I don't know the answer. I do think that the lenders' value was a paper increase due to the artificial rise of prices, so now that they are devaluing them, it's really bringing them back. Looks like in the residential area, those who really couldn't afford homes to begin with are still being foreclosed on, and those who would have bought these homes anyway are getting loan mods so they aren't punished. I'm encouraged....but then, I could be wrong.

Feb 05, 2009 01:23 AM
Robert Rauf
CMG Home Loans - Toms River, NJ

There are some crazy guideline changes I have seen. All the more reason to be doubly sure that the lender on your team knows what they are doing, and keeping up with the changes.

The Commercial side, at least in terms of Corporate credit lines is truly a mess... Banks are hoarding cash and not lending on the corporate side... that is trickling down to everything..

Feb 05, 2009 01:28 AM
Charles Fischer
Housing Market Realty - Merritt Island, FL
Professional Real Estate Services

Brent: I agree they are not thinking, not long term anyway.

Karen:  Yes, the market will self-correct, but that takes time.

Robert:  commercial is just now getting messy, seems to have lagged behind residential

 

Thanks for the comments!!

Feb 05, 2009 08:20 AM
Rob Arnold
Sand Dollar Realty Group, Inc. - Altamonte Springs, FL
Metro Orlando Full Service - Investor Friendly & F

The banks are a real mess right now.  Fannie and Freddie seem to be on the guideline of the month routine.  That causes too much turmoil in the lending business. 

Feb 05, 2009 09:04 AM
Chris Oliver
Century 21, Preferred Properties - Reynolds Plantation, GA

They are so paranoid and the time on market adjustment is just another screwy aspect of this mess. Appraisers are being hired who don't know the area or the market and some of the comps I have seen are totally laughable. Lord help anyone trying to refi and lord help any agent who doesn't put an appraisal contingency in their contract.

Feb 06, 2009 12:53 AM
Charles Fischer
Housing Market Realty - Merritt Island, FL
Professional Real Estate Services

Rob:  It is difficult when the financial institutions are messed up, it rocks our very foundation as a country.

Chris:  paranoia is based on fear, most everyone I know is walking on eggshells,  Remember: FEAR is False Evidence Appearing Real

 

Feb 06, 2009 02:51 AM
matt mathews
mathews Realty Group - Yucaipa, CA

Charles,

The same thing is happening here in Ca. Especially in my area, where prices are still going down.  A personal friend of mine who is an appraiser, tells me, it's almost impossible to come up with an accurate appraisal when all the comps are Forclosures and REO's. Sometimes he even uses an Income approach for Residential just to see where the fair market value starts. Then he adds or subtracts value from that number.    No matter what price he brings the property in at,  the lender is going to knock off another 5% anyway. 

Feb 06, 2009 08:02 AM
Charles Fischer
Housing Market Realty - Merritt Island, FL
Professional Real Estate Services

Matt:  I sometimes think that the appraisers are at a loss, too bad so much is riding on their opinions.  Wish mine carried so much weight!!

Feb 06, 2009 09:26 AM