Ok, I just cannot take it anymore.

I have sat on the sidelines, fuming, but keeping my mouth shut here on the web.But after last nights "show" from Mr. Obama, I have had enough. (by the way, I have given this guy two weeks to show me some true leadership, and since I lost all respect for him last night, I no longer will call him Mr. President...he doesn't deserve the title).

Wake up America!

Can you not see what is happening to our country?

When someone tells you that government is the only solution to your problems and when fear is invoked to get you to go along with policy, don't be surprised when you wake up in a few years and find yourself living in a socialist society.

Remember Stalin? He ruled by FEAR. Hitler ruled by FEAR. Mao ruled by FEAR. Now I am not saying that Obama is any of these guys, but you have to wonder what in the hell is going on, when in two weeks, we have seen more social policy crammed down our throats than I have seen in my lifetime. And every time I hear Obama speak, he tells us that all hope is lost if we don't follow him. If you hadn't noticed, he is ruling by fear, folks.

Are we so willing to roll over and bury our heads into the sand, let someone else deal with our problems? Have we become a nation of so much laziness that we won't take the time to voice our objection to bills that make no sense? Are we so willing to put this burden on our children and grandchildren...paying for the sins of the father? I look at my two toddlers and seriously want to cry at what they are going to have to face in 20 years.

Washington is committing the ultimate sin right now, going against everything this country was founded on. The founding fathers are probably rolling over in their graves.

Now I have to hear that the Dems are trying to sneak in a health care provision that will drastically change the way health care is treated in the United States! Talk about sneaky politics. Or how about moving the Census under the wing of the White House so that the Dems can redistrict states for more favorable outcomes in their elections. Does any of this scare you at all?

The fact is this, it is all happening before our very eyes, and if we allow our country to move to a more socialist state, the only person to blame is the one that looks you back in the mirror everyday.

Stop listening to the fear, and decide for YOURSELF what is the truth, not what someone tells you is the truth.

 

 

 
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Your concerns are valid and very real, I do not believe that big government is the solution. Not time for a Robin Hood...

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The Current President can only blame the past administration for so long , they have to force their agenda now before they own the issues all by themselves. The Rule of fear only works so long, then the revolts start.

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I do not understand why we allow Washington to run our lives as they do. It's no wonder that many in world recognize that the U.S. will not be a superpower in just a few years.

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Amen, Jennifer!!!  The problem is that the changes seem so slight and "necessary" at the time that they are being introduced and by the time we are aware of what's happening, it's already happened. You know how it is with government entitlement programs, once there, they never go away.  America was built on individual efforts and independence.  We were fouded on the idea of less government.  God help us now more than ever.

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Richard - yep, they sneak them in little by little so that the unknowing public won't notice. Better yet, they pass items, "for the safety of the children", knowing full well that it is the first step to socializing the entire system. Their argument will be "well, we already do it for the children, so why not let everyone benefit".

Integrity - we allow it because many Americans WANT the government to take care of them. We have become an entitlement state, and many believe it is their RIGHT to be taken care of. We no longer take responsibility for our own lives.

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Steve - so many people believe the fear, heck, they voted the guy in didn't they? There are those of us that WILL revolt, but will it be too late? Will there be so little of us that we will by censored, silenced, put in jail for our voice. Scary, I know, but I truly believe if we let this continue, it could happen.

Brent - Robin Hood is the sly indoctrination of our children to socialist ideas. I love the cartoon from Disney, but if you read into the doctrine of the story, it is pure socialism...the redistribution of wealth.

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Wow....I can't believe all the negative comments towards Obama....Look at all the junk left over that he has to deal with, it didn't happen in2 wks, try 8 YEARS, and he is supposed to have everything turned around in 2 wks?  Go Obama...!!!

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Kristin- I think you have missed the point. And please, don't blame this all on the last eight years. The dems have been in Congressional power for the last two years, and they are the ones who wrote the bailout bill. Stop drinking the koolaid. When are you going to start having Obama take responsibility for his actions? Eight years, 20 years, never?  For all of you who demonized every move Bush made, you sure do jump on the wagon to defend Obama anytime someone criticizes his judgment.

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Everytime I see someone talk about Socialism I am utterly amazed at the lack of actual understanding of what Socialism actually means or is. I really dont see how you can be making any sort of argument if you honestly think Hitler, Mao, or Stalin were Socialists. You are intermixing government types, with social models and economic models. There are many modern governments that work very well with mixed types of socialism such as Canada or Sweden. Are you suggesting that those countries are run by Hitler types?

I would love if this country were socialist because I understand what it actually means, freedom and equality for the people of this country. I dont know where you were for the last 8 years but if you werent freaked out by fear mongering then you must have lived in some sort of alternate reality.

If you think this country is heading towards socialism please turn off fox news because they are the only "news" channel to be making these accusations and gee they wouldnt have any reason to lie would they?

9:57am • #11
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Shane- WOW! You really do drink the koolaid. Go ahead, move to Canada and Sweden...see how "successful" it really is. And please, if your only suggestion is to try to demonize Fox News, then you really do live in la-la land. Go ahead, keep watching MSNBC and keep your head in the sand.

You really need to do some historical reading on Hitler, Stalin, and Mao, and since I have read plenty of books on their rise to power, I do know what I am talking about. I also lived in China for a while in 1989 and I saw first hand how ruling by fear effects a nation. Have you ever lived in a Communist society? I doubt it.

I am sorry, but your utopian society does not and will never exist.

10:06am • #12

Jennifer - Great Post, please do us all a favor and don't sit on the sidelines, fuming.  Please feel free to vent.  Great read!

 

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I am not a democrat but I have taken courses in political science which I would suggest you do before openly discussing politics. I really dont know what you are talking about or what you were reading because what I was discussing was quite factual.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forms_of_government

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_model

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

I dont know any political scientist that would possibly argue that any of your examples would fit. Is Canada a bad place compared to this country? Or Sweden? That seems rather offensive and wholly ethnocentric to assume that somehow our country is better than theirs.

By your examples, communist China led by Mao is the same thing as a democratically elected government in Canada and that is just not true. Also modern China is quite different than Maoist China but still exhibits examples of totalitarianism.

Have I lived in a communist society? No. But the examples you are giving dont fairly represent communism either since none of the examples you give show democratically elected officials but rather are examples of dictatorships and while the common people might very well have experienced "equality" amongst themselves, the elite at the top experienced a whole different set of rules.

I am not trying to start a fight but to show that your argument is flawed in its very structure and like I said before, you cant argue about Socialism if you dont even understand what it is.

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Shane - DON'T YOU DARE TRY TO USE WIKEPEDIA AS A SOURCE. Wikepedia is about as useful delivering facts as my liberal professors in college! Give me some REAL sources to base your claim on, not a website that can be altered and added to by anyone.

 

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Jennifer you have hit the nail on the head. We are heading down a very scary path and it is time for Americans from all political backgrounds to wake up and get educated on what is actually happening.

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Jennifer,

Thank you for your reply to Shane. I could not believe his argument when I read it. I believe we must speak out before it is to late.

 

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Alice- thanks, I am sorry to yell at him but I am so sick and tired of people basing their arguments off of Wikipedia. I cannot even comment on his last argument, I am just in shock.

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I was basing it from there so that you would understand what I was talking about. Do I need a scholarly source to give you a basic definition of Socialism or to explain how, as I clearly pointed out, that you are wrongly intermixing terms? But Fox news is a legitimate news source?

What about what I said? I don't see you refuting my actual arguments.

When you talk about fear and yet your argument is entirely based on a tactic to provoke fear? This antiquated definition of Socialism that you use was made popular during the Cold War and McCarthy era, when it was "us against them." It is a poor definition used to scare people who know nothing about what Socialism actually is. It is a fear tactic that Fox news uses to scare those people who still associate Socialism with the "reds" as if it somehow that works. But it only works on those who have absolutely no knowledge of political science and those willing enough to be tricked by such a poor definition. By your argument you are basically saying that we are heading towards a country ruled by a self appointed dictator. Come on.

You speak of fear and yet your entire argument is meant to provoke fear in those ignorant enough to believe it.

I am sorry but this entire argument would never pass in any academic climate. You are using a horribly misused word for your entire argument and the whole thing is rather poorly misguided. I would really love to hear how Obama is anything like Hitler Mao or Stalin as you seem to be suggesting. You act as if just because I don't agree with you that I somehow must be a Democrat. I am sorry but when you know nothing about a subject and are basing an entire argument from something Fox news says, I really find it hard to just sit idly by while someone makes such ridiculous accusations. If you don't like something I say I have no problem with talking about it but if you are going to make such ridiculous claims don't expect someone not to poke holes, especially when its giant sieve before you even start.

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Shane, I think your first challenge is that you are basing all of your knowledge on the political science courses you took. Well that is your first mistake. The liberal left has taken over most universities. The intellectuals need to get out of the classroom and books and live life in the real world. Actually have a job where you contribute to the economy.

"We cannot expect the Americans to jump from capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving Americans small doses of socialism until they suddenly awake to find they have Communism."

      - Soviet Leader Nikita Khrushchev, 1959

Here is my take on Obama and what he is doing to screw us our great country.

 

OK I have heard some say, "Come on give Obama time and a chance" he has not done anything to really screw up our Great Country" I am so ashamed of Americans for being so apathetic to believe this BS.

1. The stimulus package. This is being debated and sides have been drawn. PORK vs Tax cuts.I would like to keep my money please.  The Fierce Urgency of PorkThe Age of Obama begins with a frenzy of old-politics influence peddling.

2. Hiring tax evaders, pornography lawyers, and oh yea an ostentatious executive order banning lobbyists was immediately followed by the nomination of at least a dozen current or former lobbyists to high position. Now let's talk about what is going on just under the radar. That Americans should be outraged about.

 3. The closing of Guantanamoe Bay.

Obama "Saying that "our ideals give us the strength and moral high ground" to combat terrorism, President Obama signed executive orders ending the Central Intelligence Agency's secret overseas prisons, banning coercive interrogation methods and closing the Guantánamo Bay detention camp within a year." Today we can be proud Americans again.  

What, we have not been attacked in 7 years. Crazy!!! 

4. As an American I am outraged at the it is all America's fault mentality. Please read this article of Obama reaching out to Muslims. Our military has sacrificed for this great country don't dare tell me we have not reached out and died for Muslim's. Outreach, Yes. Apology, No.(By Charles Krauthammer, January 30, 2009

5. Signed an executive order to allow my tax dollars to pay for abortions in foreign countries.

6.Stealing the CensusThe Unconstitutional White House effort to create a permanent voting majority by allowing Rahm Emanuel to oversee the 2010 census.From Fox News (which is still the only Media outlet covering this story):Utah's congressional delegation Read more...

Here it is for all the world to hear. Video: The reddest red-meat roundtable evah

He has done all this and more in just the first 20 days in office.

I am outraged and as Americans I believe we better wake up before it is to late!!

 

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Shane,

You must have missed the part about "Now I am not saying that Obama is any of these guys", and you must have missed how I am connecting his speeches that reek of "fear" to the fear tactics used by other socialist and communist leaders. I don't otherwise mix Socialism with Communism in my post.

Do I care if I offend Canada or Sweden by saying they have some failed social programs? Um, NO! For God's sake, it is a well known fact that Canada's nationalized health care does not work. Why is that even relevant to my post?

Where did I make a comparison to democratic elections in Canada and Maoist China? I must have missed that paragraph.

By the way, China is still a communist society and they censor what their people read, tell them what they can and cannot do, and still rule by FEAR. Please don't try and paint a rosy picture of China.

Actually, Hitler's rise to power was from him coming in second in a democratic election, where he won 30% of the vote in 1932. He then had to runoff with the other two parties, where he still lost the most votes to Hindenburg. He was then appointed Chancellor by President Hindenburg in 1933. Sounds like a democractic process to me. (By the way, I minored in German and have studied German language and history since I was 13.) I know a "little bit" of how Germany worked under Hitler.

I also took political science classes in college, but I didn't major in the subject, as I am guessing you didn't either. Taking a few classes doesn't make either of us an expert in the matter. Hmmm..but I didn't know that was a prereq to being able to openly and freely discuss politics. What was I thinking? I guess common sense doesn't play a role in any of this. By the way, can you give me some names of your closest friends that are political scientists, since you seem to know what they would say?

Well, let's see. You already suggest that I have NO CLUE what socialism really is, so yes, I want you to point me to some great sources to enlighten me. I am an idiot after all.

I'm sorry. Did I miss something in Obama's speeches where he tells us that if we do not pass this stimulus bill then there is a good chance our country will never recover? Hmm...sounds like he is trying to scare me into going along with his policies. My God, that sounds like a FEAR tactic. But what do I know, I am just a lemming that watches Fox News.

Please don't be so arrogant to believe you know everything. You keep mentioning academics. What do I care about having a conversation that would win me Noble Prize for debate? One thing that is wrong about America is that we rely too heavily on professors and the academic world. The last person I will ever take advice from is a political scientist, or a professor for that matter.

By the way, I have a degree in Chemistry, so I am technically a scientist, but that doesn't mean I go along with other scientists in their views about global warming, oops, I mean climate change. The only way to be truly free is to think for yourself and question everything.

 

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Thanks Alice for your outrage. What a great quote from a communist leader. See, my favorite line comes from " The Usual Suspects":

"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist."

Let's see, you can replace it with " The greatest trick Russia ever pulled was convincing the world that socialism doesn't exist", or replace Russia with Democrats, and you have what the dems are trying to do with our country, pulling the wool over our eyes.

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Jennifer,

You are brilliant! I love it!!

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Socialism is not a system of freedom and equality. It is a system that denies the individual "for the benefit of the many". It is restrictive, whether malignent or benign.

Check out the new restrictions on the practice of medicine. This bill puts the government in charge of your medical care, literally. Here is an excerpt:

the National Coordinator of Health Information Technology, will monitor treatments to make sure your doctor is doing what the federal government deems appropriate and cost effective.

and another impact

Medicare now pays for treatments deemed safe and effective. The stimulus bill would change that and apply a cost- effectiveness standard set by the Federal Council (464).

This is not a stimulus bill, it is a bill that will be removing the right of individual choice from Americans. It is facism, pure and simple.

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Well I am sorry that I mistook this for an intellectual conversation. I guess if you dont want any intellect involved then feel free to discuss, because as you pointed out you dont seem to care whether what you are saying is factual or not, just so long as you are right. You clearly dont want anyone to oppose your view or even to offer any sort of arguments to the contrary. Instead your answer is that I am just being too intellectual. And for the record every single thing I have said here I could easily have said as a conservative. My favorite political science professor was a conservative. I sometimes consider myself to be a conservative. You can be from any side of the political spectrum and still be an academic but to completely disregard academics to further your own agenda is not ok.

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Thanks Alice and Mike...I too was wondering when socialism became a system of freedom and equality.

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Shane,

But it is OK for academics to completely disregard common sense to further their own agenda? Or how about ignoring history too? And it is OK for academics to take global warming as fact and force the rest of us to believe, to further their own agenda? I see, it is ok, as long as it fits your argument.

See you are just making stuff up. Again, you put words in my mouth that I have never said, that I "don't care if what I say is fact or not, as long as I am right". YOU presume the facts are wrong because you believe what you believe. How can I debate someone who says he wishes our country was a socialist country because then we would be free and equal...because "you understand" what it really is. How dare you presume that I don't know what socialism is. You jumped into a discussion, telling me I didn't know what I am talking about, but you do. You don't seem to live in a world of reality.I cannot even go into a debate on this forum...I do have work to do you know.

2:02pm • #29

This is not a Stimulus bill at all. This bill plays off the fears of Americans to shove all the Democrats pet projects down our throats is one massive spending swoop. This is getting pushed though so fast I don't even think the Senators voting for it know what is in it.

Change? We are getting change, but I don't think it will be the change most people voted for. Bye, bye Capitalism, hello Socialism.

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Shane wrote:  Everytime I see someone talk about Socialism I am utterly amazed at the lack of actual understanding of what Socialism actually means or is. I really dont see how you can be making any sort of argument if you honestly think Hitler, Mao, or Stalin were Socialists. You are intermixing government types, with social models and economic models.

Thank you.  I couldn't have expressed it better.

 

 

 

7:19pm • #32

FANTASTIC POST!  Do us a favor and don't "sit on the sidelines" anymore... we need you out here.....

Have a Great night....

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I'm 100% with Shane and really floored by the endless Obama bashing on this site.  What would be the point - since you're bound to be alienating over half the people in the country?  Makes absolutely no sense to me to use this forum for that purpose.

Liz

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Ok, can someone please tell me where in my post I even mention socialism and Mao, Stalin, and Hitler? I mention that they ruled by FEAR, and that is the same road Obama is going down. That is the only parallel I draw between these four men. Please, please read it more carefully before you start commenting.

 

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Elizabeth - I guess you have missed the endless Bush bashing posts that have been on this site as well. Maybe we should also have the people of AR stop writing about jokes, recipes, stupid videos. There are some people out there that like to read, say half of the American population, these types of posts. You forget, half the country voted against Obama. So it makes perfect sense to me.

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What a truly thought-provoking post and comments. Love the exchange. This is my kind of stimulus where people are challenged to think.

Great job, Jennifer.  Looking forward to seeing more of your posts.

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Jennifer- I totally agree with you. We are heading down the road to socialism, and very quickly. It is diconcerting to see how all of the liberals on here try to change the argument away from what you stated at the outset. They have been taught well.

9:53am • #38

I completely agree! It drives me nuts to hear Obama praise as I walk around my college campus. I feel like so many students are uneducated about true politics, but they'll be the ones pushing for all these "great programs". But if you speak anything against this 'wonderful change-driven administration' you're marked out as public enemy number one. Our rights are being restricted daily, slowly but surely and it seems so few people are willing to step up and put a stop to it. Great to know that others see where our country is truly heading! - Kat

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C'mon now Kat....."our rights are being restricted daily"?  Are you referring to the Patriot Act?

12:33pm • #40

Great post Jennifer - you go girl!

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Oh, my gracious God...it's Obama and his socialist team thwarting what our founding fathers have fought and put their lives on the line to preserve our freedoms which in one swift election is fading away as we speak.

Speak up now, because Obama and his followers...here also in the Rain...will try and stop us from speaking out.

Any talk even contrary to Obama and his plan to change America into his socialist state will be stopped immediately.

This is not a joke soon.

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"our founding fathers"?  Don't your founding fathers include Rurik and Vladimir the Great?

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Just another liberal trying to rewrite history. Our founding fathers would hang some of you liberals from the highest tree.

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Welcome to the US!  In this country many of our founding fathers created a Constitution to ensure equality and opportunity for all.  Perhaps it was branches of your ancestry that took the route of hanging people?  Are they also the ones burning crosses?

10:45pm • #45

Interesting point, I thought that he was going to be ruling by hope not fear.

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Tchaka, LMAO at your last comment to Nick...  Other than that, Shane - good to meet you. I was here.:-)

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Tchaka - I think your comments towards Nick are way out of line. Personal attacks against members will not be tolerated. If you continue, at least on my blog, I won't allow you to comment anymore. Stick to the topic, not insults.

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Right!  And I sense zero bias in that, Jennifer.

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Tchaka - when you bring up someone's ancestors and make suggestions that they burned crosses, hung people, or had founding fathers of Vladimir the Great, then yes, I think you are stepping out of line. Grow up!

If someone was to make racial comments about you, I would be putting my foot down with them as well and banning them too.

Zero bias here...I just don't want personal swipes on MY blog, no matter who it is.

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Of course you had to bring up race, even though no one else did.  But I'm not surprised.  (note:  if someone were to make racial comments about you, I would put my foot down as well....and not simply because you and I appear to share some heritage).

Questions were posed, not suggestions.....to stimulate the apparent lack of cogitative content in the comment.

But it's your blog and you can censor it as you please.

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Tchaka - For the love of God, stop, stop stop. Stop with the "since I bring up race" CRAP. I AM F*&%ING DEFENDING YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I am so sick of this CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To try and make it seem like you were only posing a question, and not a suggestion is pure lunacy. I guess you are not making a suggestion either with the "I'm not surprised" comment. SPIN it anyway you like...I am done with you.

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Hey Jennifer you go girl!!

Just keep up the fight and getting the information out there. I think it is important for everyone to see how many on the left play the game. And it is a game to them. The scary thing is they are playing with real lives and we will all suffer unless Americans start to "WAKE UP"!!

HANG TOUGH MY FRIEND!!

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Do you feel like your call to Congress and your e-mails are going unheard?

We do have a voice. AMERICA WAKE UP!!

 Here is a concrete way you can make a difference. Please go to http://nostimulus.com/

7:22pm • #54

Jennifer,

AWESOME post.  Keep up the great work.  Stay strong!  They can try to say it however they want.  What does this sound like??

Socialism-

1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

2 a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state

3: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

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BRAVO JOHN!!

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Nice comment John. Of course to modern day liberals, who know we are heading towards socialism, they will always act like they have no idea what you are talking about.

11:02am • #57

Jennifer, the liberals will try their hardest to get to you... leave it alone.. you posted a great blog and they cant stand it..... Dont feel like you have to banter back and forth with them... 

They take things you say and twist them like fury OR they spit crap out against you...... very irritating but we know one thing... TAKE THE HIGH ROAD... let them look like assholes...WE know that absolutley NOTHING they say makes a damn bit of sense.

Happy Valentines Day!!!!!!

 

 

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Whoa….look at that mouth!  Did you get that from Bobby Knight?  Since you’re done, I’ll cap it with this and we can move on.  While I do appreciate you stepping up to defend me, I don’t know what or why - and quite frankly, don’t need it.  I’m very capable.  But thanks (hey, I’m grateful to anyone looking out for me).

It appears that you haven’t posted in the political-social groups long enough to know all the characters and hence jump in where you don’t need to.  Nicholas is notorious for often writing nutty, far-right, sometimes nonsensical bits on here.  Am I offended?  No.  I give it back to him just as much.  Do I offend him?  I’m sure not, he too has thick skin.  People who have hung out with him in person say he’s a lot of fun.  That may be the case and I’d probably enjoy a drink with him as well, but on AR we battle and given our ideological differences, that’s unlikely to change.   You stepping in will make no difference.

I tend to write comments that either overtly or subtly question things and Silent Majority readers will probably say I poke, jab, irritate or bother in getting my points across (I won’t deny that).  One thing I will not do is BS.  So if I tell you that I am posing a question to stimulate thought,....well, your (mis)interpretation does not change my intent. 

And now we move on.

 

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John - Thank you for posting those definitions of Socialism, it's about time someone stepped up and did so.  It seems too often that word is thrown about without a clear understanding.  My comments (as far as the United States is concerned):

#1: I do not see our country advocating collective or governmental ownership.  Our government is doing certain things to help people in need and some can argue there's redistribution of wealth going on, but this is a far cry from an absolute.  And the reality is that every sound government will have and act on social concerns, that's what they do.  Not only does that fulfill our notion of goodwill towards others, but the lack of such will (in my opinion) result in issues of anarchy.  I don't believe that to be a worthwhile tradeoff.

#2:  We all know this is not happening and we know that the government does not want to own and run everything.

#3:  I agree with the definition to a certain point, the problem I find is that there's a huge range for Marxism.  If you could, imagine a purely capitalistic society which then makes a decision to provide funding to assist with anyone who ended up in an emergency room and couldn't totally afford it.  By this definition that society is now socialist.  But is that fair?  Not at all.

Relating back to our country, there are things being done or proposed that are not capitalistic.  However, it's a far cry from us converting to socialism.  Again, thanks for the definitions.

 

 

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Tchaka - Our problem is with number 3 above. We start out with the emergency room and move into every facet of our lives. The producers must continually pay for the non-producers.

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Tana - No, the comment was not meant for you.

Kevin - I understand what you're saying.  I do believe that you're referring to #1.  What I'm saying about #3 is that it's way too broad a definition.  If you think about it, we have pretty much always been a socialist country - as far as that definition goes.  And I don't know many people who would agree with that assessment.

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Tchaka - I do not agree that we have pretty much always been a socialist country.  But with each passing year we as a nation are moving more and more in that direction.  Most conservatives I know are capitalists and the thought of being a socialist nation is goes against the foundations of the Constitution.  So I for one will yell "Socialist" at anyone who shows, in my opinion, socialist ideals.  Like Obama, Reed, Pelosi, Democratic National Committee, Labor Unions, Teacher Unions etc.. 

Jennifer - Great Post.

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Obama did promise that there would be "change" and the American people followed him.  Sadly the "silent majority" is really a minority.  Most people in this country are no longer conservatives.  There are far more liberals and moderates out there. 

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Jennifer,

I thought you would find the following articles very interesting.

Click on part 1 at the bottom first. I would love to hear what you think.  Hope all is well with you! Alice

We're All Fascists Now II: American Tyranny

by Michael Ledeen

We will not be bludgeoned into submission; we will be seduced. (Read Part I here)

 

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I fear it is too late. We have become a nation of moochers, more confortable with having government do it than to do it ourselves. But the more government intervenes, the more freedoms are lost with it. I refer to my favorite Dave Liniger quote (founder of Re/Max). Dave was talking about real estate but it is equally true of government

It's not the lions coming over the mountain you need to worry about, it's the pigs in the trees that'll get you.

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Gene,

Don't let the dems find out about the pig's in the trees as I am sure they will blame it on global warming at want to tax both pigs and trees.

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Well at least we know why they don't mind raising taxes - none of them pay any! I just love the fact that the guy running the treasury can't figure out TurboTax!

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Turbo TAX= Rocket science? He is a smart one.

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In all fairness, Turbo Tax isn't always easy to work with depending on the complexity of one's taxes.  I have used several versions (Deluxe, Premier and Investment) and some are more appropriate to my situation than others.  I don't know Geithner's situation so I can't speak for him, but I do know that the ease of use of TT can easily differ based on the version and taxpayer's situation.

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Jennifer,

Thanks for the post. I do hope people wake up before we are a true socalist state!

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Tchaka - I love this from you! However complicated it is - do you not think the guy running the Treasury should know how to file his taxes correctly?

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Simon - I'm not defending his actions, in fact he should have an accountant so that if something's wrong, he has someone to shoulder the blame with.  I'm merely commenting on TT since I've been using it for about 6 or 7 years now.  And do we have to see your face with every post!!!!  >:-)

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I just figured out how to customize my blog and now I have my face on each post.  Since I figured out how to do that, tomorrow I'll try working on Turbo Tax.

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Jennifer, great post.  You may be featured on the Silent Majority, but you are quickly joining the vocal Majority of this Country.  I somehow dont think that many who voted for 'change' envisioned this form of change.

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