I was doing some research today and looking into the future of the mortgage market.  It never seems to fail that technical indicators portray a good glimpse of the future, and with that in mind, I am off to predict the future of interest rates.

Many of you may know that I run another blog off my main mortgage site that posts updates on the mortgage market and provides locking guidance for those that choose to float.  I get this information from several different resources as I do not like any one opinion, another thing many of you may already know about me.

So, on to the real story behind this post.  This week is going to be an interesting one for Mortgage Backed Securities, the real driving force behind mortgage interest rates.  Below is a chart that shows the prices of the FNMA 5.5% coupon bond (from Mortgage Market Guide) over the last quarter.  I have drawn in some trend lines to assist in showing you the breakout pattern forming.

Interest May be Falling in the Near Future

As you can see there is a triangle formation clearly shown that is based on two trend lines, a downward trend line and an upward trend line, both showing the top and bottoms of pricing recently.  As technicals show over history, when there is a "breakout" of a pattern, there is usually significant movement in that security.

Now, you can also see that there is a convergence forming amoung the four depicted moving averages, another sign that a breakout is imminent.  The only question is to which side will the breakout occur.

I believe, as do many others, that the breakout will occur to the high side, meaning that bond prices will go higher and that translates to lower interest rates ahead. 

Why do I believe this?

Recent economic data shows that inflation is moderating and rests just outside the Fed's comfort zone.  And with the FOMC meeting approaching (this Wednesday), the release of the FOMC Meeting data may be what causes the breakout to occur.  It is extremely unlikely the Fed will change the rate, but we belive the wording of the Policy Statement will be biased toward cutting the rates in the future and that will be the driving force. 

And if that doesn't work, Retail Sales and PPI are reported on Friday, and those may be the numbers.  The truth is that the breakout has to occur, and soon.  The direction is undecided, but we believe it will be to the high side as the economy shows signs of slowing and inflation shows to be in check, which are all good news for bonds.

 

 

30 Comments on Watch Out for Falling...

MAY
08
2007
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Robert thanks for that analysis - (Made my head spin a little) thats why I value working with mortgage professionals like you who are the experts on this. Congrats on being featured. 
2:12am • #1
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Great stuff, Robert. 

I watch more fundamental trends like the nominal GDP to Fed Funds imbalance.  That pointed to lower rates about 6 months ago.  It's slower to come to fruition but I think we'll be looking at a sub 4% 10 year by 2008

Technical analysis, while thought of by fundamentalists like me as "magic", is actually quite useful when determining when to forward lock rates. Excellent post 

2:27am • #2
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From your mouth ( computer ) to God's ears.
5:19am • #3
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Wow. It is possible we'll see those with 6% interest rates refinancing?  I'm going to point out your post to a local mortgage person I use. Thanks! Keep us posted!
8:11am • #4
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Robert, words to my ears...this is will only mean great news for all those many home buyers.
9:33am • #5
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Wow!  Talk about reading the tee leaves!  I'm not a big fan of technical anaysis, but I can see that you are.  I happen to agree with you, but for different reasons. 

1) I think that the stock market is way over valued with this latest run up.  Things just aren't as rosy as Wall Street thinks that they are and a BIG correction is looming.

 

2) Housing demand remains soft across the country and it is too big a portion of the economy for the Fed not to stoke things up pretty soon.

 

What do you think?

 

Bob Mitchell

ValueList 

10:01am • #6

I agree. Especially now that the falling dollar in being viewed as a good thing for Corporate profits and stronger exports which will help the trade inbalance as well. Great posts. Keep them coming.

10:41am • #7
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Thanks for the chart. I do I understand what your saying. I read this chart to stay the coarse. Go sideways for at least another quarter. The price of gas is a big concern. My Opinion. Great Post.

10:42am • #8

Bob,

Very informative post. Great to read something helpful instead of just point chasing rants.

11:51am • #9
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Cyndee...Sorry to make your head spin.  Thanks for the congrats and comments.

Brian...Glad to see you weighed in quickly on this one.  I was looking forward to your input, as I always do.  I also watch the other economic reports, but love technicals as well.  This just looked like a "perfect storm" for creating price improvements.

Missy...God is always in control, so it doesn't matter what I blog about.  Thanks for the comment.

Lisa...I believe that we will see at least a testing of the interest rates we saw as lows back in March.  I would not be surprised if we see even lower, but I doubt we will see those of 2003.  Thanks for the input.

Gena...It would be welcome news for all homeowners and buyers.  Thanks for the comment.

Bob...Thanks for the input.  Technicals play a huge role in forecasting direction as patterns tend to repeat themselves.  The only question here is which side will break.  Almost all indicators will be to the plus side, so lower rates would be the result.  One factor besides the Fed that needs to be played in is the auction of the 10-Year T-Notes today.  If it is met with little foreign participation, that would be bad news.

Regarding Wall Street, Technical Analysis plays a big role in stocks as well.  I believe that the recent runup will need a correction period, but I would not say it is overvalued.  Some stocks are, but not all.  Regarding housing, there are still "hot pockets" where they are still seeing runups in prices, so the overall market is basically back to its normal range.  There are definitely places that are "drying up", but there are also places that are "heating up".  The housing market alone will not pressure the Fed either way, instead they will focus on other factors.

Tom...Falling dollar does shed some light on our overall economy and plays a role in which direction bonds will go.  Thanks for the input.

Frank...Thanks for the input.  You can see a clear trading range which would show bonds staying put for a while, bouncing between the various Moving Averages.  But, you have to factor in the Trend Lines.  The upward Trend Line will act as a rising layer of support, pushing bonds higher.  Conversely, the downward Trend Line will act as resistance pushing bonds lower.  One Trend has to break and will allow the other Trend Line to take over.

Thanks again for all the comments.

12:08pm • #10
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Doug...Sorry I missed you in the last comment.  Thanks for the input and I am glad it is helpful.
12:09pm • #11

I don't see rates coming down at all in the next 12 months. The trend indicators point any way you want them to. Lenders hurting for business see a rate drop in the tea leaves because that's what they want to see.

Bernanke has gone out of his way to explain that rates aren't coming down anytime soon and I believe him.

 

Robert Kerr
4:41pm • #12
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Robert K....Thanks for your comment and opinion.  Two things you failed to see. 

Number 1, this chart is not of the Feds rate.  The Fed looks at inflationary pressures and adjusts rate based on data to attempt to keep inflation in check.  I mentioned that I do not expect the Fed to lower rates tomorrow nor the very near future, but possibly before the year is out and that will be part of the Policy Statement.

Number 2, Trend Indicators point the direction of the Trend.  There is no manipulating them.  Upward Trend Lines show an increasing pattern along the bases of increasing prices.  The reverse is true for Downward Trend Lines.  That's it plain and simple.  Sometimes they form patterns like the triangle above.  When the two converge, simply put, one must break and that is the purpose of this post. 

The chart is of the FNMA 5.5% bond, and it is the basis of mortgage pricing, which translates to rates.  The purpose of the post is to show that there will be a breakout to one side or the other from the current pattern.  To which side is the question.  To that end, the latest economic data favors higher prices, equalling lower yields, translating to lower rates on mortgages.  The opposite could happen as well.

I am not sure why you stated "Lenders hurting for business see a rate drop in the tea leaves", but rest assured that I am not hurting for business and I don't use tea leaves, just technical analysis and economic data.

We all have our opinions, and I would like to thank you for adding yours.

5:16pm • #13
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Robert,

Thanks for doing all this legwork. It sounds plausible. Mortgage rates need to stay low for this soft market to have a chance to rebound.

7:20pm • #14

Robert, that did not come out the way I intended it. Pardon me and allow me to explain. I work with many others in finance and I've been hearing these predictions for some time. For the last year at least I've listened to reason after reason and chart after chart why the rates will come down. And as we both know, they haven't.

The people I personally know who are preaching the second coming of the 1-2% overnight rate are the ones hurting for business and who will benefit from such a change. They're not objective. They can't be. They see only one side of the bigger picture - completing ignoring Bernanke's public comments for example - the side that shows them only want they want to see.

I certainly didn't mean to imply that you're one of those people.

Please accept my apology.

Robert 

8:15pm • #16
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Esko...You are welcome and thank you for the comment.

Tracy...Thanks for the comment as well.

Robert K...Apology accepted.  We all have been guilty of writing things down that come out the wrong way.  I know there are many who have been saying rates will come down for a long time.  These people fail to watch the entire market and economic reports, or as you put it, are blind to all factors except what they want to see. 

Bernanke makes many statements, especially in regards to the 1-2% "target" he wants to see, and right now we are just outside that target.  We haven't been that close in a long time, which is why I say that the indications favor lower interest rates as inflationary pressures seem to be falling into balance.  That is also why I mentioned that the Policy Statement will likely change tone and may indicate a possibility of cutting rates later this year.  If that occurs, bonds will go higher, which is what I expect to happen soon. 

Thanks again for your comments and addition.  It is truly appreciated to see everyone's inputs.

8:49pm • #17
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2007
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From your blog to gods ears.
12:02am • #18
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Robert,

Boy..that chart gets me dizzy..the real estate market will need a chart like that now.

6:15am • #19
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Neal...The real estate market is like every other market.  It needs a correction every now and then, and that is what I believe we are in.  The market will return to its normal pattern in the future, the only question is when. 

If you look back to the early 90s, you will see the national average of home prices went through a slight decline for a fews years, then returned to its normal rise.  It does not act like the stock market as it is not the same as a "security" or other investments.  A home really is not an investment, but that is another story.

Thanks for the comment.

7:52am • #20

"Inflationary pressures seem to be falling into balance"

I could not disagree more with that statement.With the price of gasoline at $3.25 per gallon and rising, inflation is much higher than the core cpi indicates. Surely The Fed realizes this which is why we get frequent public statements about anti-inflationary measures even when the official core number is rather tame. As the price of fuel ripples through the economy and hits the core set of goods a more realistic inflationary outlook will emerge.

I would also hesitate to use the 1990s as a yardstcik for this property market. This run-up was historical in magnitude, as was the level of subprime abuse and ease of credit. This could very well be the longest and deepest correction that any of us have ever seen in our lifetimes. Only time will tell but I have to admit that it has me worried. Very worried.

I woudl be thrilled to be wrong about all of this.

 

11:39am • #21
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Robert K...Again, thanks for your inputs.  Gas is no longer rising at the moment, in fact at my local pumps, I have seen a drop of at least 5 cents recently.  I know that is no necessarily the case across the nation, but you must remember that energy and food prices are very volatile and that is why the core reports remove them.  Both core and non-core reports are used, but the core reports give a more "stable" picture.

As you said, time will tell, but history also tends to repeat itself as everything is cyclical.  This may very well be more of a correction in the real estate market, but using past history usually helps to give an idea of the future, but does not guarantee results.

I hope what I see is correct, but if not, oh well, life continues and we deal with what is delivered to us.

11:46am • #22
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Well, the FOMC Meeting made its announcement...

As expected, the Fed did not change the Fed Funds Rate, however the wording of the Policy Statement, the part that I informed you would drive the market direction, was not favorable for bonds, so it appears that the "falling" part of this equation will be prices instead of rates. 

As Robert Kerr stated, he did not feel as optimistic as I did and, unfortunately, his view won today.  The technicals will still hold, only that bonds will likely break to the downside regarding prices and rates will likely increase slightly on mortgages in the near future, so LOCK your rates now.

View the report here...

1:28pm • #23
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Robert,

I agree ..but when..not too soon from what I see,they need to look at other issues besides just price.

3:04pm • #24
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I disagree with the Feds assessment, but I am not an expert in the economy, so my opinion ain't worth squat.  I still believe that inflationary pressures will continue to balance out and will have the Feds changing gears later.

That being said, Bonds dropped dramatically after the news, but are still sitting on their Upward Trend Line.  If it holds, the triangle remains in place and there is still hope.  The next few days will tell as Retail Sales comes out this Friday and that tends to be a big mover of the markets as well.

3:17pm • #25
MAY
10
2007

Hey Robert,

Either you and I are both maniacal optimists or we're on to something.  I like the fact that we both rate watching from different charts and using different styles of technical analysis to predict the same thing.  I think that bodes well.

Jason

9:10am • #26
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Jason...I agree and the two styles must show something positive, right?

9:38am • #27
MAY
12
2007
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Robert

Your right on track with this.  I watch the bond market everyday like a hawk.  The MMG does an excellent job of forecasting and keeping up with the fed policy and its political impact on the bond market. 

However, one thing you haven't mentioned is the affect of the stock market.   Stocks have had a great run for the last several weeks and while I don't wish anyone's stock price down.  The stock market is due for a correction.  When this happens, the japanese candlesticks will spike up and interest rates will move back down. 

Nice post.

Martin

3:39am • #28
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Martin...Thanks for adding to the post.  You are correct as stocks and bonds are usually figting for the same money and move in opposite directions (emphasis on usually).
11:48am • #29
JUN
07
2007

Mortgage rates are up almost 1% since April, the 10-year treasury bond is up, and the Fed overnight rate is sure to follow.

Do you trust my instincts now, Robert? 

11:38pm • #30

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