This post does not need a lot of words.  But I think I read somewhere that it must be at least 50 words to get points for it.  So I'll throw in a couple of self-explanatory explanations along the way.

In this case, the water heater was adjacent to the guest bedroom.  The photo above is the guest closet, with the carpet & padding pulled up to expose the water damage to the wood flooring (this house is on a raised foundation, not a concrete pad).  You can also see where the old vinyl was cut out when the new carpeting was installed, leaving a strip of vinyl along the edge of the closet.

The corner of the bedroom, next to the water heater, was also damaged.  The carpet in the corner was pulled up to help dry the wet padding and floor.

In this house, the entire house was remodeled (cosmetic changes like new carpet & paint) but the 40-year-old water heater was not replaced.  Nor did it have a pan underneath it.  And the house was vacant while the rusted water heater leaked for 6 months...  

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14 Comments on What Happens when you don't put a PAN under your Water Heater?

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15
2009
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Regina, That's really bad luck for the sellers. Were they aware that they needed the pan?

6:27pm • #1
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Hi Regina...I'm afraid with so many homes being flipped, so many foreclosures being scooped up for prices well below prior value, we may find a large number of problems like this.

Your explanation was helpful in understanding the photos better.

Thanks for this insight into another problem for buyers.

Kate

6:28pm • #2
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Yikes - what a mess but it is something we must be aware of and good blog material, Regina...

7:44pm • #3
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OUCH - The photo says it ALL!

8:18pm • #4
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Barb, this was the original 40-year-old water heater.  Who knows what the original builders were thinking?

Kate, yes just another thing we must be aware of.

Kathy & Greg: yes I have even more photos, but I'll save the "water heater" photos for another day!

8:22pm • #5
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Regina - Two things, 40 year old water heater, that was one good heater (unless of course it had been leaking for 39), and amazingly enough, anybody can rehab and flip a house.  The market has stopped many of the fly-by-nighters, but those that think they can make a quick buck will surface again.

8:34pm • #6
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Jack, this was not a flipper house, it was upgraded by the owner's children for the purpose of selling the house after the owner passed away.  They did the cosmetic upgrades necessary to put it on the market.  Unfortunately, with this market, it didn't sell and sat empty for months.

I have come to believe that every homeowner should get a home inspection annually, not just wait until something's wrong to fix it.

8:54pm • #7
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Hey Regina, who am I to argue with that logic.  In most cases, we could end up saving some people some serious money.  I do a quick and reasonable yearly maintenance inspection for several people now.  I really think that it has been a help to them.

 

10:13pm • #8
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How do you renovate a house and leave the 40 year old water heater that was only supposed to last for 10 years?  I assume this house hadn't been turned over at all otherwise I would be shocked if an inspector didn't notice there was no pan.

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Jack, well we tune-up our cars on a regular basis.  We go to the dentist to get an check-up.  Then why do we wait until we have a problem with our house to get it inspected?  Why not try a little preventive maintenance with something that's worth 10 or 20 times more than our car?

11:43pm • #10
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16
2009
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Regina, Yup! A picture is worth a thousand words +/- a few. When I see an interior installation of a water heater with no pan, I do write it up as a FYI...

Your building consultant in Spring Hill, TN ~ Michael

3:42am • #11
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Michael, the pan is so inexpensive, maybe only a couple of dollars, that there's not much to be gained by leaving it out.

11:33am • #12
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20
2009

That is not good.  I have seen this before.  I have been in many homes that do not have a pan below the water heater or the wash machine.  This can really hurt if something goes wrong.

Back to Short Sale lenders.  The have the right, but it is NOT "RIGHT".  I truly believe these numbers should be figured out before the listing and I always think a selling agent should know what the commision is before the contract is submitted.  We all work way to hard to be cut without knowing up front.

I wish you the best and I hope to talk with you soon on the Rain.

7:46pm • #13
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Nate, thanks for your comments.  I agree with you 100%.  I'll pop back over to your blog to comment again on the HOT subject of lenders cutting the real estate commission.

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