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56 Comments on If you think closing off crawlspace vents is saving you money, you're all wet!
I am personaly beginning if The wrong forum was clicked on,and somehow I ended up chatting with a group of scientists.
Damn you guys are good.
Everbody,
This has been an excellent debate. I think we all won. Regional differences make the requirements important. Nowdays energy efficiency is of key importance. Tightening up houses, new construction is key to efficiency, but creates other challenges. Indoor air quality is at risk, proper ventilation and moisture control are of prime importance. So, you have to do what you have to do.
Alaska Don
Im just glad I don't have to go under there.....
Ben
Jimmy ~ we live in Bend. Dry with warm summers and cold winters. The sand tends to wick the moisture away.
G.
Glenda,
I'm not sure where Bend is, but it sounds like you have a climate with very low relative humidity. I wouldn't be surprised if there are not a lot of homes in your area with louvered vents that can be opened and closed at will. What I should have done, in my original post, was make it clearer the specific climate type and home type I had in mind, though I thought I had done that. As it is, I inadvertently invited comments contrary to my advice. And it was a good discussion. Lots of good presentations and advice from all corners.
Yes Jimmy we do have the louvered vents and most only work the first couple of years and then off to purchase plugs. *Removing the plugs in warmer months is very important.
G.
Well, I can't contribute more than is already said above, but did have this recent experience (???) to share visual examples.
30 plus year old house
no vapor barrier
no vents
poor drainage
BIG PROBLEMS!
Moldy Joists
Sagging girder/beam
Rotted rim joist, termites, mold
Wet valley. See the peak at bottom right. Leakage from waste pipe above.
More mold, rot, and termites
More rot & mold.
Enjjoy!
Only a couple. I don't spend much time on bugs.
Look at the wet spot!
If you're going to use macro, put your camera straight on to the wall instead of an angle. Mine focused just a little to the right of the termites so they are kind of fuzzy on the left edge of the focused area.
Thanks for the pics and the input, Erby. I just inspected another one of those Mississippi Delta homes with crawlspace over gumbo mud soil today. For those who aren't familiar with the particular soil condition, it's a smorgasborg of everything that has washed down the Big River for millennia. Silt, loess soil, dark clays, making up a topsoil 12-20 feet thick. Highly permeable, it soaks up water like a sponge and releases it as steam on a hot summer day! A vapor barrier is an absolute must for homes in that area, and I've yet to see one over there without one---and yet, because of the particular qualities of the soil, you can still have a moisture problem big-time if you don't keep it vented. Bear in mind that the Delta is still a very economically depressed area. Many, many homes don't have central air, and homeowners can't afford the installation of that, much less creating a sealed crawl space. One solution that seems to be unique to the area is installing a continuous duty fan in the access door, and switching it from a location inside. This way, during rainy periods, they can be switched off to avoid pulling in saturated air. Relative humidity is still a problem most of the rest of the time here, but keeping the air moving does a pretty good job.
BTW----This has absolutely nothing to do with crawlspaces, but has anyone noticed that, when you use spellcheck here, it always calls it to your attention when you fail to capitalize "realtor"? Apparently, it's ok not to capitalize "home inspector." Does this tell us something? :-)
Yes, it tells me Realtor is trade marked / registered (whatever) and Home Inspector is not!
Bet you're enjoying this steamy weather??
Hello there Jimmy
How are things going there in Coldwater? Here's to you having a good new year.
C&C
Hi Jimmy
Wanted to stop back by to say, that we hope you have a safe and Happy New Year's weekend.
C&C