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A Ghost or Two

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What Do I Need to Disclose

Often, when real estate professionals sit down with a Seller, the Seller will ask - "What do I need to disclose, when selling my house?"

Or - they will be more specific, "Must I disclose the real reason I'm selling my home is because of noisy and obnoxious neighbors?" 

One Seller questioned me about a ghost or two, which were "residing" in the home, and wanted to know whether this needed to be disclosed.

In California, we are a long way from a couple decades ago, when Residential Purchase Agreements were one page, with no disclosures.  We now have home-sale disclosure laws requiring Sellers to reveal issues or problems, which have a material affect on the market value or desirability of a residence.

It is important that Sellers disclose any neighbors, which are noisy and obnoxious.  There is a case, which the California Court of Appeal granted rescission and refund of the buyer's money because of the seller's failure to disclose the neighborhood nuisance. The case is Shapiro v. Sutherland (1998) 60 Cal.App.4th 666.

But, it is also important to understand that certain things considered obnoxious, to you as a Seller, many be somewhat attractive to a potential buyer - for instance, the ghost(s) one particular Seller was concerned about.  In the California Mother Lode, there are a least two inns, which come to mind, considered (or at least advertised) as haunted.  It seems "ghostly" presence, can occasionally be seen as having value.

To summarize, in addition to the usual issues coming to mind in disclosure - the faulty plumbing, the electrical outlet that doesn't function, the smoke that billows out of the fireplace into the house, because the chimney needs to be swept, needs to be disclosed.  Better yet, if it costs a few dollars to fix the defect or issue, than by all means, repair it.  It will likely pay dividends in a home sale.

Full disclosure of all construction defects of the home, as well as neighborhood nuisances, and issues are very important.  Full disclosure is beneficial to Sellers as well as Buyers, because to not disclose, can become costly; particularly, when an issue hasn't been addressed, and finds it's way into litigation, haunting you like a ghost or two.

If you have more questions about what needs to be disclosed, be certain to ask your real estate professional.  We will be happy to discuss in more detail, the issues of your particular property which need to be disclosed.

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Comments(25)

Melody Botting
Broker Associate PenFed Realty - San Antonio, TX
You Deserve The Best

Bgpic06252008015453_l  Congratulations!  Your post has been featured in Club Chaos.

Feb 20, 2009 12:54 PM
Gary Woltal
Keller Williams Realty - Flower Mound, TX
Assoc. Broker Realtor SFR Dallas Ft. Worth

Better to disclose too much (within the law) than not enough. Love the photo of the ghost Myrl!

Feb 20, 2009 01:07 PM
Lise Howe
Keller Williams Capital Properties - Washington, DC
Assoc. Broker in DC, MD, VA and attorney in DC

Great photo. Good topic!

Feb 20, 2009 01:58 PM
Eric McGowan
Moody, AL

Mryl, great post and right on topic. Not disclosing pertinent information can be more trouble than one would ever imagine.

Feb 20, 2009 02:17 PM
Martha Brown
Long & Foster Real Estate, Inc., Annapolis MD 21403 - Annapolis, MD
Your Homes Around Annapolis Agent

Ahhh- ghosts, deaths of household members, the list could be endless. Maryland law is very specific about what we can or can not disclose on these subjects, however, if we know and are asked directly then another can of worms is opened. A fine line we walk each day.

Feb 20, 2009 02:51 PM
Deb Brooks
Brooks Prime Properties Wichita Falls Texas - Wichita Falls, TX

Myrl, ask Marchel about her REAL ghost story...it's something else.

Later in the rain~Deb

Feb 20, 2009 03:11 PM
Maria Morton
Platinum Realty - Kansas City, MO
Kansas City Real Estate 816-560-3758

Nice photo and great post, Myrl. I'm in Kansas City now but in Hawaii, although not legally required, it is considered good form to disclose the presence of ghosts or spirits as some people will not inhabit space that is haunted due to their cultural beliefs and traditions.

Feb 20, 2009 03:37 PM
Toula Rosebrock
Diane Turton, Realtors, Forked River, NJ - Lacey Township, NJ
Broker/Sales Associate, Realtor, Lacey Township,

Hi Myrl:

Great post!  The rule of thumb is: when in doubt, "disclose"...

ToulaRosebrock.com

Feb 20, 2009 10:37 PM
Mike Saunders
Retired - Athens, GA

When in doubt, disclose, but, sometimes you have to be careful what you disclose, some things you are not allowed to, even if asked.

Feb 21, 2009 12:01 AM
Myrl Jeffcoat
Sacramento, CA
Greater Sacramento Realtor - Retired

Lisa - That's certainly a "possibility". . .:-)

Barbara - Some folks don't mind having a ghost or two hanging around!  Some even welcome them!

Melody - Thank you for the "feature" Kind Lady!

Gary, Toula, Eric, Lise and Martha - I've yet to see an agent or seller get sued for disclosing too much!

Deb - I'll do that!  Marchel are you reading this?

Maria - I purchased a couple lots (side by side) on the Big Island Hawaii back in 1980 or so.  The native Hawaiian agent that sold them to me, arranged to have a holy man come and perform a little ceremony on them.  The land definitely had a certain "quality" that I could feel when I was walking on it.

Mike - Could you provide some examples of what NOT TO disclose?

Feb 21, 2009 12:49 AM
C Tann-Starr
Tann Starr & Associates, Inc. - Palm Bay, FL

Melodious has excellent taste (LOL). What an interesting post. Talk about unique. :-)

 

Feb 21, 2009 05:39 AM
Jack Gilleland
Home Inspection and Investor Services, Clayton - Clayton, OH

I bought one to rehab 5 years ago that still had the outline on the floor.  Great rehab, 4 BR, 2 Bath, 2000SF, partially finished basement, but a drug deal gone bad. Finished it and sold it in 4 months, full disclosure of what I knew. Didn't see any ghosts, but didn't look for them either.

Feb 21, 2009 07:23 AM
Myrl Jeffcoat
Sacramento, CA
Greater Sacramento Realtor - Retired

Jack & Izzy - I had a ghost show up on a piece of toast:-)  I know it is supposed to only happen to the Virgin Mary - but I don't think it's her in this case:-)

C - "Unique" - In our business we can't make this stuff up:-)

 

Feb 21, 2009 08:58 AM
Heather Chavez
Second Self Virtual Assistance - Caldwell, ID
Real Estate Virtual, Assistant (928) 692-3235

Great post, Myrl.  I wondered what exactly had to be disclosed and what didn't when a property was on the market. 

Feb 21, 2009 12:01 PM
Jack Gilleland
Home Inspection and Investor Services, Clayton - Clayton, OH

Myrl, ebay here you come.  I think I'd take a look at the elements in that toaster, might have one or two shorted out.

Feb 21, 2009 01:16 PM
Myrl Jeffcoat
Sacramento, CA
Greater Sacramento Realtor - Retired

Heather - It's always better to over-disclose than under-disclose!  We never know what may be an issue to some folks!

Jack & Izzy - I suspect it was a blonde hair that sparked the short in the toaster :-)

Feb 21, 2009 02:21 PM
Eva Erdmann
Lion International Inc. - Holiday, FL
interior decorator

Hi Myrl,

This is great trick,this one with the ghost but talking about disclosing certain facts about property and neighborhood,do you know what Florida law says about it.

Cheers,

Eva

Feb 21, 2009 10:09 PM
Janice Roosevelt
Keller Williams Brandywine Valley - West Chester, PA
OICP ABR, ePRO,Ecobroker

Amazing trick, it spooked me out

Feb 21, 2009 11:08 PM
Sandy Shores FL Realtor®, Melbourne Real Estate
M & M Realty of Brevard Inc. - Melbourne, FL
Brevard County Real Estate, Florida's Space Coast

Hi Myrl, Interesting, but I've had a rental house for over 10 years...with probably 6 different tenants. I rented to a quite eccentric woman.  She called me 8 months into the lease to tell me the house was haunted and had a exorcist come out and try to get rid of the ghost.  It stayed away for a month, but then she said it came back. She moved out 6 months ago.

Feb 22, 2009 01:36 AM
Myrl Jeffcoat
Sacramento, CA
Greater Sacramento Realtor - Retired

Eva - I'm not familiar with Florida disclosure laws.

Janice - It creates a regular "Twilight Zone" moment:-)

Sandy - She should have tried going back on her meds before she moved out!  That's the sure way to "test" to see if it's a ghost or schizophrenia:-)

Feb 22, 2009 04:26 AM