Is Stimulation Just Economic Medicine and Did We Need Such A Big Dose?

So the spigot is in the "ON" position. America, let the "stimulation" begin. President O has prescribed the medicine for our economic maladies, so let's all just swallow and get cured.

But hold on. As anyone knows, swallowing medicine is tricky. It cures the ailment, sure. But an economy, just like a body, is a highly complex and delicate system. Swallowing medicine can sometimes have unintended consequences and side effects.

My experience tells me this: complex systems naturally know how to regulate themselves, if only given the chance.

But its too late for us. We have tampered with our economic system, justifying it this way: Look at the patient. He must be near death. One by one, the systems are failing. There is pain. There is acute suffering. There are loud demands to"DO SOMETHING, anything!".

Here, patient, quick! Swallow this medicine, and let's see what happens.

Is It Possible the Mortgage Industry Has Just Been Overdosed?

Frankly, the Federal Government is creating a boom that the mortgage industry may not be able to handle.

The refi boomlet, ALREADY in progress, is not on the radar screen of mainstream media YET. This is because   the focus has been on stimulating BUYERS.

While buyers still need coaxing to believe this market is the opportunity of a lifetime, those who already own houses need no convincing that the time is right to refinance.

The train has left the station, and they are on board. Will there even be room left on the train when the medicine finally takes effect on buyers?

Please Remain On Hold. Your Mortgage Office Is Experiencing A High Volume of Loans.

It is projected that the mortgage industry will do two times the volume of business in 2009 as it did in 2008! Here's why:

  • Lower rates have stimulated homeowners to dump their adjustable rate mortgages
  • The ease of a "streamline" refinance has FHA loan holders stimulated to lower their rates
  • Equity line holders have been stimulated to get rid of their useless frozen lines by wrapping them in a new mortgage
  • The media's relentless focus on foreclosures, loan modifications, and mortgage restructures has created a subliminal message to homeowners: they must "do something to fix their mortgage".
  • Existing homeowners see a window of opportunity to get repairs done on their homes that have been put on the back burner. They want cash out to fix things while contractors are not busy and working CHEAPLY.

And then the buyers show up, late to the party:

  • About 300,000 more purchases are projected as a direct result of the first time tax buyer incentive.
  • The very real possibility that the Federal Government will soon step in to unlock the Jumbo market by partially insuring jumbo loans.
  • The intersecting of home prices at an 8 year low, and the government continuing to force rates down, bringing even more buyers into the market.

If This is A Feast, Why Does The Pantry Look Like a Famine is Going On?

Our own mortgage bank is handling a volume of epic proportions and the stimulus is only beginning. It is my belief that there will be a further purchase frenzy in the market as foreclosures begin to be absorbed, and as buyers panic realizing there are time limits on tax incentives.

Understand this:

  • The mortgage industry is not prepared. They cut to the bone in 2008 and are woefully understaffed to handle this onslaught.
  • The average loan is 1 1/2 times MORE DIFFICULT and far more time consuming to close than in 2003 (the last time we had a volume close to what we project this year)
  • New appraisal rules (HVCC) going into effect in May will create further turmoil and delays right when the buying season begins, and the stimulus begins to sink in for most first time buyers.

My prediction for the rest of 2009?

Two words: Pure pandemonium.

 

 

Written by Janet Guilbault, Mortgage Lending Specialist Based Out of the San Francisco Bay Area.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
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56 Comments on Has the Mortgage Industry Just Been Overdosed? Pure Pandemonium Ahead?

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I don't know about the rest of you, but I just decided this is not the year to take a vacation.

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Pandemonium beats malaise. 

At least the mortgage industry will have the refi business.  The similar transaction for real estate agents would be move-up buyers.  We have lost the move-up market.  Folks can't sell when they are upside down. 

Selling real estate isn't easy when the market consists of short sales and/or foreclosures. 

Loan officers shouldn't take a vacation because they have business to attend to.

Real estate agents shouldn't take a vacation because they'll miss business when they're gone.  Unfortunately, they will anyway. 

1:22pm • #2
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Well, Lenn, I know you said you don't get out much, but please don't tell me you never take a vacation! People need vacations even if they are attached at the hip to their laptop. Laptop, flipflops, poptops, and you are on the beach.

I continue to believe that the refinance activity and the first time homebuyer activity will pull up the price of all houses. Maybe not right away. There may be help for jumbo loans coming as well.

And you would be amazed at the number of refinance applications I have where the homebuyer pays money to get the loan to the proper place to refinance. I call them "cash-in" refinances.

I don't imagine too many people would want to pay $100,000 just to sell. OUCH.

 

 

1:50pm • #3
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I know I am always asking mortgage brokers "how long to close these days?"  I think the 30 day closing may be more and more difficult as time goes on...

3:13pm • #4
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Janet - I am still able to close a really clean FHA loan in 30 days or less with a few others taking a day or two longer.  However, having said that though, a really clean file is hard to come by these days.  I will say though, u/w turn times are becoming really frustrating.

3:58pm • #5

Great Blog, Janet!  I believe you are spot on!

Michael Nielsen
4:22pm • #6
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Janet,

I think you're on the money as far as what the media is missing right now in the refi "boomlet". I'm finding that we have to choose the lender we submit a loan to based not necessarily on pricing, but on when the borrower needs to close. We still have some offering 5-day turn-around, but it is getting tougher, and as Donne said, they must be very very clean files to get that priority.

Dan

4:23pm • #7

Janet, I don't always agree with you but you are on target this time completely. I just took a 3 day weekend and now I am diggging in and getting ready for my 10 day cruise in July. I think I may just get through some of these loans by then.... just kidding. Thanks Janet.

4:29pm • #8
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Janet, now all those agents that can't sell real estate right now will be trying to get their mortgage broker license.  You'll soon have more help than you need. :-)

Seriously, it's probably going to bog down some closing times.  60 days vs. 30 days and the buyers/sellers and agents need to be prepared for it.

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Roger: Our bank does prioritize the purchases. But all kinds of rules are cropping up to attempt to handle the overload. I think they will impact purchase transactions because as the year goes on the percentage of purchases to refinancing will go up.

 

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I keep hearing the same thing from every lender I'm working with.  They're overloaded, and having a very hard time keeping up with the constant changes in requirements!  How can this be when "no one is doing anything with lending right now"?

4:56pm • #11
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I keep hearing the same thing from every lender I'm working with.  They're overloaded, and having a very hard time keeping up with the constant changes in requirements!  How can this be when "no one is doing anything with lending right now"?

4:56pm • #12

I am still able to close a loan in 3 weeks.  I actually closed one un 2 weeks at the beginning of the month.  Turn times are up now but having the right lender relationships sometimes helps!

Well written post with good points!

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Janet - seems like mortgage loan originators have their plates pretty full here in my area also! Mostly refi's and REO's. However more and more (potential) traditional buyers are breaking out of their cabin fever mode and are wanting to get out looking also.

5:05pm • #16

Janet, We still go on vacation, albeit a budget vacation. We just take our blackberrys, our laptops and our portable fax/copy machine with us...we never lose a lead:)

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All I can say is, keep it coming, I need to make up the big slack of the last year ;)

 

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To Melina and Donne: How fun to finally have a face to go with the name!

Melina: My guess is that by summer you will need at least a 45 day close.

Donne: I am locking my loans for 45 days. Subordinations are making us nuts. I don't lock until I already have the appraisal and title report in the file.

Even then I feel like a horse bolting out of the start gate! I notice we are all getting a little frustrated.

 The problem is, the rest of the world does not see this refi boom yet, so they keep asking....what in the world could be taking so long?

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Steve: LOL...At our January kick off meeting our company mortgage guru said that 2008 will go down as the absolute worst year in the industry.

Now that 2009 is taking on a personality all its own, I think I agree.

I know anyone reading this is thinking, "Well, Janet, there was no place else to go except up"

 

5:18pm • #20
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Dan: I definately pick a lender based on their turn times. I have to!!!!

And it is like a big yo-yo. Pig pile on the bank with the low rates and the low turn times, then the next thing you know, same bank has higher rates and longer turn times.

 

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Hans: I took a 10 day cruise last year to Italy and France. I won't go into details, but let me just say this: DO NOT expect to do business in the middle of the Mediterranean Ocean on a cruise ship

and......

Never expect a processor can do the job of the loan officer.

 

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Penny:

I think the impact of such huge numbers of refinance applications has just been ignored by the media. Too much focus on everything else about the meltdown.

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Jim: There is a momentum for the real estate market that is already in progress. The buyers are just now showing up.

Chris and Karen: I live for the day when I can unchain myself from my desk. Good for you. I BELIEVE people need vacations.

I honestly think you should plan one right at the beginning of the year to inspire you! But this year, I have the nose to the grindstone, no vacation! (but I reserve the right to change my mind)

5:32pm • #24

We just submitted an offer on a home that was listed for sale for over 500 days, finally got the price down and replaced the carpet last week, and we got OUTBID!  I agree that this is only the beginning and the good houses now are going quick which will add to the mortgage madness.

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Interesting point. We shall see. Hey at least you are busy right. Thanks for sharing.

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There is definitely more going on with refis than in a long time, but you're right in the difficulty of getting things closed, and I'm sure many companies don't have as many employees.

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I would prefer a little pandemonium to what's been going on for the past two months - - it's been way too slow.  Since you know the onslaught is coming, maybe now, before the first round of "tax credit buyers" shows up, is the time for the lending folks to start HIRING - - that's the most important part of the stimulus package after all  - - Job Creation!

6:12pm • #28

No one is seeing the forest through the trees... AND THE HUGE PROBLEM BEFORE US! The real problem is that BOA, Wells Fargo and other solvent banks see a HUGE opportunity to become a monopoly within the mortgage industry. They have already started to push out brokers and net branches by cutting back on correspondant lending. They have put restrictions on credit scores and mortgage lates for FHA loans even though FHA has broader guidelines. They are CHERY PICKING loans for themselves and squeezing out everyone else AND THEY HAVE THE GOVERNMENT ON THEIR SIDE - SURE LOAN THEM BAILOUT MONEY - LET THEM SQUEEZE EVERYONE ELSE OUT- THEN CUT THEM LOOSE TO REAP ALL THE BENEFITS. Turn time on loans is not so dependent on underwriting but if the lender has a warehouse line to fund it. We are all juggling to fund loans. Please review this link: http://warehouselendingproject.com/  Business will start to boom for all the reasons stated in the above post but the reason we all will be struggling is not because we don't have the staff to support the load but the availability of money to fund loans unless you are a bank. Oh and by the way since some idiot convinced someone that this problem was caused by unqualified loan officers ( like the banks that were securitizing these loans were not to blame)  requirements to be a loan officer will be more strict and costly OH I FORGOT, IF YOU ARE A BANK YOUR LO'S WILL NOT NEED TO BE LICENSED sounds like the perfect storm or perfect opportunity if your a bank. Well for me I'm going to start doing reverse mortgages, only place where their is equity, no income, no credit check and lots of parents willing to bail out little Johnny and Debi for all their reckless spending. :) That is truly the next BIG BOOM because everyhting else is going to BLOW UP!

 

 

Joe Mayernik
6:27pm • #29

I'm glad someone is doing a lot of refi. business. We have such a major problem with values around here that at least 1 out of 4 loans is going abust due to value.

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Joe, I not only agree with you, I have written about this right here on ActiveRain. I have not gone into the warehouse part of the story because most of my readers are Realtors who may not be familiar with this part of the mortgage landscape and how it all fits in.

But the truth is, warehouse lines could go away and mortgage brokers could go away, and then the only place to go is a bank, and guess what? They make the rules then, not the market. It is why there are laws against monopolies.

If you read some other posts I have written you will know that I do think banks are attempting to get rid of mortgage brokers. I do think banks are using mortgage brokers as a handy scapegoat.

And PS: I also think reverse mortgage will be THE NEXT BIG THING.

Thank you for your comment!

 

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Danelle: We have plenty of underwater homeowners here in California. But those that have equity are still out there, and they want their share of the 5% pie.

Terry: I completely agree! I would have rather had the tax credit go to small businesses. My husband and I own a small company and would love to hire a couple of people. A tax credit would help us do that.

Christine: I honestly think everyone in the mortgage industry is working a lot harder for a lot less money. And nobody wants to hire (YET). Too afraid this is just a blip.

7:32pm • #32

Its hectic but exciting.  We have noticed more calls for refinances, increased underwriting times and delays.  Many banks cut back on staff and are now not prepared to handle the volume.  I love the business and being able to help people reduce their monthly payments, and the first time home buyers taking advantage of the tax credit, low rates and affordable prices.

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Roland: I think I pretty much agree with you. In the beginning of the year I said this year would be better because at least we knew what we were dealing with!

It is not as easy, but somehow the challenges are invigorating. I miss my jumbo clients and continue to feel they have really been lost in the shuffle.

I do wonder what will happen when the market turns around. We are already overwhelmed. Those that had no business last year and therefore no money, are thrilled (those of us on commission)

Those that were paid but had nothing to do last year, are kinda crabby and overworked now.

I also feel it is slightly unfair that everyone who wants to refi is taking a backseat to everyone who wants to buy a house.

Whatever. Things are flowing. And that is a good thing.

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Janet - pure pandemonium ahead !  Wow, with the way you put it, I think you are so right !  Great insight as usual !  It will be interesting to see what happens !

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Janet, I think it's time to get the message out to anyone who will listen that to allow banks to squeeze out brokers means choice will be eliminated and banks will control not only rates, but values (appraisal control) --maybe this is designed to create a new serfdom?

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Yes, Joe,      The bankers are out to control the industry. It's the American way! Buy Park place and Boardwalk! And they are doing it with my money. The market should have been allowed to correct itself but that is not the endgame. Once the banks take control of the mortgage business will they then set their sights on the realty sales business? Do your state regulators alow the banks to dictate terms of sale in violation of local law and custom? Is anyone taking the bull by the horns? Is there a politico that will dare address this outrageous trend to monopoly? Steping off the soapbox now.................. :o) :o) :o)

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Janet: We're seeing a bit of that in my office. I don't know how much greater the volume will be this year. We're off to a great start but the refi. boom will probably wane by summer. Then it will be up to the purchase market to carry the day. I could see potentially an increase of 33% over last year. Remember it's still not easy to get a loan done.

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Paul: It is hard to imagine the refi boom will wane (at least in Calif) due to the number of adjustables that will re-set and the scramble to convert them into 30 year fixed.

If the jumbo market unlocks, be prepared for a landslide of refi applications. Can you say pent up demand?

John: I share the same soapbox as you. Perhaps it is difficult for the mainstream media to grasp since they are not witness to the shocking changes within the industry as a result of the bailout.

Maybe I should have asked this: What if banks simply refuse to lend? What if the reach capacity and stop lending? It is then very easy to see how the "price" or a mortgage will be in the hands of the banks, that we, the taxpayers, gave money to (ironically.....so they would loan more money!)

9:44am • #39

Another piece of the closing puzzle to keep in mind is the Appraiser's schedule.  Nothing happens until the appraisal is competed and I am finding it difficult to schedule appraisal thereby delaying the close.  Appraisers are complaining about being overloaded just like the lenders.  Solution is to get that appraisal scheduled ASAP.

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Susan: We will hope that this does not happen. I would like to think that there would be a great number of consumers who would cry FOUL so loud it would drown out the banks and the politicians.

But, who knows?

C & S: Just trying to let my readers in on what's going in inside the lending world. Glad you enjoyed.

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John: Our bank will not underwrite the file at all until the appraisal is done. I used to wait to make sure client would qualify, but

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John: Our bank will not underwrite the file at all until the appraisal is done. I used to wait to make sure client would qualify, but no

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John: Our bank will not underwrite the file at all until the appraisal is done. I used to wait to make sure client would qualify,

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John: Our bank will not underwrite the file at all until the appraisal is done. I used to wait to make sure client would qualify, but not

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John: Our bank will not underwrite the file at all until the appraisal is done. I used to wait to make sure client would qualify, but no can

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John: Our bank will not underwrite the file at all until the appraisal is done. I used to wait to make sure client would qualify, but no can do

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Great article with some excellent insight. I think you are most definitely on to something...

11:28am • #48
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Great article with some excellent insight. I think you are most definitely on to something...

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Thanks Janet, excellent post.  But remember all those folks that have negative equity on their homes.  They will be unable to refinance.  Also, we have tons of first time buyers coming around, but for many the products that are available to them are currently un-financeable with today's underwriting standards.

3:48pm • #50

Enjoyed reading your post. You're right on that the media is missing the surge in refinancing. The news is mostly about how homes aren't selling or lenders aren't lending. Then buyers stay afraid and "on the fence" or wonder why their loans take so long to underwrite and fund. Maybe if someone in the media could actually "talk" to someone in our industry for a change...

5:42pm • #51

Regardless of the various views, the more positive commentary on the current real estate market, the better the chances of a positive outcome.

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Now, if we could only get banks to treat the higher conforming loan amounts as if they are truly conforming and stop referring to them as "jumbo conforming" with their higher interest rates....

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Jenny: You read my mind. Look at my next post.

Bob: This may be bad news in disguise. The industry is becoming overwhelmed.

Gabe: This is all true, but these people that cannot move forward either should not own homes, or will be helped by the activity.

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Where do you get these projections of 300,000 more homebuyers into the system? This sounds like wishful thinking on lendings part.

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One of the best posts I have ever seen here on Active Rain.  If AR does a year end review of posts that nailed it, I predict this will be one of them.

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