I've never experimented with chasing expired listings before, but recently decided to give it a shot. Broker Bryant unselfishly sent me a copy of the letter he uses and I tailored it to fit. I've been faithfully sending this letter to the owners of EVERY home that expires in my area for about two weeks and got my first nibble on Monday morning. Of course I was excited to see some response from my efforts, yet somewhat reserved, having no experience with expireds and unsure of what I was up against.
From the voicemail he left, the caller seemed to be a very direct, no-nonsense type guy. I actually enjoy these types of clients most times because they're direct and to the point. You don't have to wonder how they feel about you or if they're happy with what you're doing for them. They WILL let you know where you stand! In his voicemail, he basically told me he was testing me and not to bother calling back if it wasn't within the next hour. You see, my new expired letter (thanks again BB) has a guarantee of sorts. It promises that I will either answer my phone or return the call within one hour between the hours of 8am & 5pm and 8pm & 10pm, Monday through Sunday. Funny that his voicemail was at about 8:02am Monday morning!
So anyway, of course I called him back promptly after dropping my daughter off at school (8:20am) and when I introduced myself, he said "you made it." Well, it was good to know he has a personality. I could tell from our brief "how are you" intros that he seems to be a pretty nice guy. Still direct and to the point. We got right to business. He told me all about his home and how frustrated he is with it not selling during the past YEAR. That's right, I said 1 year. You see, in our current Edmond real estate market, homes sell on an average of 93 days, and that's longer than last year. So, after hearing this home's been on the market for over a year (with four different agents), I knew there was something seriously wrong. He finished telling me about the beautiful details he and his wife had requested (and paid for) when building this home in 2005. I could already tell, this was going to be one of those "WOW" homes. You know, the 2-3% of all homes that go on the market; the type that just knocks your socks off when you walk in the door. They built it with plans of staying there for a long long time, but then relocated out of state.
I shared with him my initial thoughts on why the home hasn't sold, which of course basically came down to two things; Price & Marketing. Of course I know in the back of my mind, even with a total lack of marketing, if the price is even close to right, the house will sell itself, so the big issue here has to be the list price. He tells me he's already lowered the price over $25,000 and won't lower it another dime. Obviously, the next step is to go see for myself so I tell him I'll do just that in the next two days and call him back. In fact, he had insisted that I walk through the house before I start looking at numbers.
Monday gets away and there's no chance to go see the house, so Tuesday I head out to take a look and, of course, I pull up and it's the nicest house on the block, maybe even in the whole neighborhood. And yes, I was right about the WOW factor. This home is gorgeous with a capital G! It's got everything; solid-core doors, tons of tile, hardwood floors, crown molding everywhere, 3cm granite, stone brick & tile everywhere, under-mounted cooks sink, top-of-the-line fixtures, custom cabinetry, gigantic rooms, faux paint everywhere you look, huge walk-in closets in every room, amazing detail, screened florida room, and the list goes on. It's just amazing. OK, enough of that. I get back to the computer and start pulling comps & checking absorption rates. Yes, Iknew this one would be overpriced, but SHEESH! Remember how I told you the seller had already lowered the price more than $25K? Get this, it's STILL almost $30,000 too high! We're not talking about a million-dollar home either. This listing started in the low $290s and is now in the low $270s, but needs to be in the low $240s.
The topic of overpriced listings is often discussed here on AR and it's encouraging to see that other top agents take the same approach to listings that I do. The frustrating thing is when I see a situation like this one. In my opinion, there are several "professionals" who've let these homeowners down.
First, the home builder. This home is just plain overbuilt. It's nicer and more equipped than any other house I've seen in the area. Did the builder advise them on the potential problems with overbuilding?
Second, the appraiser. We all know that appraisers have been pushing the envelope for the last several years. This is a good example of how an appraiser can hurt a home buyer. I know they're under pressure and don't want to be the deal breaker, but when is enough enough? This house was custom built and purchased for $282K less than two years ago in a market that hasn't been and still isn't in a slump.
Third, Fourth, Fifth & Sixth, the "real estate professionals" who listed this home WAY too high. Not only did they give these home owners a false sense of hope, but they caused this home to flounder on the market for over a year, creating a stigma that may have to be overcome by underpricing the home. They've caused the owners to have to make an extra year's mortgage payments, just waiting for that "dream buyer" to come along. Chances are this house would never even come close to making the appraisal even if some naive buyer did make an offer. By taking such an overpriced listing, they've hurt these sellers tremendously. Now I know it's not a perfect world, but if these folks had been advised by one agent after another that their house WOULD NOT SELL at that price, they might have had a fighting chance.
The only one I can control is myself. I continue to stick to my guns. It's very difficult sometimes to be blunt with a homeowner about the value of their home. We don't want to offend them and instinct is to just take the listing. We want our sign out there. Some people will even tell you to just take the listing no matter what price and work on getting the sellers to lower their list price after you have them under contract. Taking a slightly overpriced listing is one thing. I've done it (in a really strong market) and sometimes it pays off, but taking a grossly-overpriced listing not only hurts the homeowner; It also hurts the neighborhood and even your own reputation. In my opinion, it borders on unethical. When uneducated neighbors see a high-priced listing, they start thinking maybe they can sell their home for that much (after all, they're just watching what the "professionals" are doing), then suddenly you've not only misled your own clients, but you're misleading others and slowing down the overall sales in that area. Yes, being blunt is tough, but we owe it to our clients and the general public to keep them informed and help them see things in a realistic light. I hate to sound preachy, but we know better than anyone what the market is doing and what a house will sell for, right? If you answered yes, then you'll boldly tell a homeowner what they need to hear, not what they want to hear. If you won't, then maybe you're not so confident in your knowledge after all and need to re-evaluate your methods of assessing the market.
So, I had a tough conversation with these homeowners and, most likely, won't get a listing out of it, but I hope and pray that I've done them a service by being honest and upfront about their situation. After speaking with them, I recapped my points in this email:
Mr & Mrs Seller,
Thank you for allowing me the opportunity to look into what it's going to take to sell your home. I only wish I'd been able to offer you a more attractive proposal. Your home is absolutely beautiful and I would dare say, possibly the nicest in the neighborhood. Please take that as the compliment that it is. Unfortunately, having the nicest home doesn't always equate to it being the easiest or most profitable home to sell. I often tell my clients "I'm not here to tell you what your home is worth. I'm here to tell you what it's going to take to sell it." The home's worth is obviously very important to you, as the "parents" of the home. You put your time, your money and your effort into building what you wanted. The product of all of that is a beautiful home. Unfortunately, a prospective buyer won't always see the same value in certain upgrades or features that you see and I believe that is the problem you're facing right now. Buyers can be very blind to such things and, oftentimes, only see dollar signs with no added value. I'd like to share with you an article I recently wrote on this very subject:
After carefully reviewing the comparable data for your neighborhood, I've concluded that the largest obstacle you face is the listing price. I know I'm not telling you anything you don't already know in that regard. Your home is currently the most expensive home in the neighborhood, not only when compared to similar-sized and similar-featured homes, but the highest compared to ALL other listings in the neighborhood. This is never a good position to be in, regardless of how beautiful and meticulous your home is. The first and largest challenge when selling a home is simply getting prospective buyers through the door. They can't fall in love with it if they don't see it. Being the most expensive listing in the neighborhood greatly decreases the number of buyers that will walk through the door. After that, only a handful of buyers will see the added value in all of the upgrades your home has. Each buyer has different opinions, different needs and different tastes. It's highly unlikely that a buyer walking through your home will have the exact same tastes and desires, therefore, they may see value in some of the upgrades, but most-likely will not see value in all of them.
The second thing we have to battle is the absorption rate. Click here for a quick description of absorption rate, if you'd like. The current absorption rate for Lone Oak Parke is 12. This means if no more homes are listed in the neighborhood past today, it will take 12 months to sell off the current inventory, assuming market factors continue on the same trend. I have no way of knowing how many prospective buyers have seen your house over the past year, but I have no doubt that it's not nearly enough. In order for us to insure that your home is one of the next sold, we have to first greatly increase the number of buyers viewing your home. That can only be accomplished by pricing it aggressively. My recommended price range to sell this home in today's market is $242,000 - $256,000. The price I believe will get it sold quickly is $247,900. This price will put your home in the TOP FOUR (and the top 50%) lowest priced homes, compared to others with similar features and size.
I know this price is scary and far from what you have expected to get for your home. As I said before, it's absolutely beautiful and EXTREMELY nice. Unfortunately, it's simply too nice for the neighborhood. Selling it in this market is going to mean taking a hit. I don't know any other way to say it and I hate to be the bearer of bad news. However, my job is to give you an honest assessment and to get your house sold.
This IS what it's going to take to get it done. For your review, I've attached a spreadsheet outlining the data I've compiled, which is what brought me to this final figure. If you have any questions at all, please don't hesitate to call me and I'll be happy to go over the figures with you. I wanted to be sure that I got this information to you tonight so I've left out my marketing ideas at his time. However, I will be following up later tonight with another email which will outline some of the methods I employ to market my listings. I'll also include my own selling statistics in that email so you can review my track record.
I hope I haven't offended you with my blunt assessment and look forward to answering any questions you may have. Have a great evening and please look for my next email.
Great letter and very to the point. I tell my clients all the time ----another realtor will list your house overpriced so feel free to check around. I'm not here to list your house, I'm here to sell it. I don't get paid till the job is done and if I can't sell your house because its way overpriced all that I accomplish is you getting upset with me that its not selling. Don't get me wrong I have lost some listings this way and someone else listed them overpriced------the house never sold. No since in me throwing good advertisement money out the window for something that will never sell.
Your post was extremely well thought out and you did a tremendous favor for that seller. Hope you get the listing after softening them up. Good Luck, Bob
Great post, and perhaps we should all be very proactive with this overpriced stuff- I blogged about it on our website, optionsrealty.com, but haven't seen too many other companies publicly offering that prices are a bit down. It hasn't hurt us- rather, people seem to appreciate the honesty. HOWEVER, I want to steal your letter- how can the guy NOT use you?
Ryan, this post was great! I'd love to see the letter you send to the expired listings(your version). I am going to tackle some of these in the near future and I need good ideas. Good luck to you!
Great post and I commend you for your honesty. I love your letter and would like to be able to borrow it if I ever need such a letter. You "spoke the truth in love. " Telling them what they want to hear wouldn't change the market value of the house one iota. Thanks for sharing.
When I started in real estate I was told, "take it , it is a listing", but there is a difference between a good listing and a bad one. I believe our ethics prohibit us from telling a seller his home is worth more than it is just to get the listing. That is how I read it anyway. And if I believe the comps and my experience show a home should be priced at 200,000 and I take it for 250,000, I am tacitly lying to the seller. In the end he will be mad at me because it is not getting shown, even though I am advertising it all over the place. You can advertise a dump on CBS prime time for 1,000,000 and it will not sell. A home that has been on the market for over a year has a problem, the wrong price. Even if it were less than perfect, there is a buyer out there if the price is correct. Now I just tell a seller with illusions of striking it rich that I wish him the best of luck, but that honestly and truthfully I do not believe that I can sell his home for that price and show him the data to support my rejection of the listing. I learned early that if I did not, in the end they would just switch to another REALTOR at the end of the listing period, and then to add salt to the wound, would finally drop the price for the new agent. Oh well. Give me 1 one good listing rather than 3 that will likely end in no-sales.
PS: If I hear another seller say "but my house is SPECIAL" one more time...............
Ryan, a very eloquent, and logical post! Your email letter to the sellers was terrific and good use of links to your website and your post on "The Critical Art of Pricing Your Home for Sell". I cannot imagine the Sellers would not want you to market and sell their house after such well thought out reasoning.
Missy - Feel free to use it offline all you want. If you plan to use it online, please just link to it so we don't end up with duplicate content, which will hurt us both in the eyes of the search engines. Thanks for coming by. I'm glad you find it helpful!
Candice - You're exactly right! That's actually another topic I plan to address in my blog soon.
Mott - Thanks for coming by!
Bob - Thanks so much for the kind words. I hope so too my friend, but if not, at least I've been honest and given them something to think about.
laurie - I agree. If we all work toward the same goal, it should benefit the real estate community and the consumers as a whole. Feel free to use the letter all you want offline or link to it online. I hope it helps prove your point!
Kaushik - I totally agree. Buying listings is a shameful practice (another topic of a future blog post). Thanks for coming by my friend.
Silvia - Thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Lizette - I will be happy to share that letter with you. In fact, I think I'll post it up tomorrow. Good luck to you also!
Craig - I know! As I was typing, it seemed to just keep flowing from my fingertips. I could have gone on all day, but it was far too long already. I hope you find something useful here. Thanks for coming by!
Lea - Thank you! Honesty with our clients is the best policy IMO. Feel free to use that letter any time in print or link to it if used online. Speaking the truth in love is the challenge isn't it?
John - I too believe our ethics prohibit us from taking a listing that high. You're right though, let's focus our energy on working with the clients we can help and not giving false hope to those who we can't. Thanks for sharing!
Jay - Thank you! I will post that letter up tomorrow for you to see.
Deborah - Thank you for the kind words. I believe the velvet hammer sometimes does the trick. I may not get the opportunity to sell this particular home, but hopefully I've given them some direction.
Gary - Thanks for coming by! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
I forgot to mention that these sellers haven't received one single offer in the 12 months the home has been on the market. I also just received this email from them early this morning:
"Ryan, yes we did get your message, and just spoke with our realtor, we have opted to stay the course with her, we've lowered the price to $265,000, and if it is one you have a buyer for, all the better. We'd certainly appreciate any help you can give us in order to sell this beautiful home."
Excellent Ryan! They love that phone call return test by the way. I get that all the time. Keep at it and you WILL get listings. I turn down 2-5 listings every week. But that's OK as long as I do it nicely and I'm completely honest with them I will get it the next time around. Share away my friend.
OK everyone, I was going to post my EXPIRED LETTER up on my blog today but, after thinking more about it, I'd rather not put it out there for the whole world, but I'm happy to share it with anyone who's not a direct competitor of mine or Bryant's. So, if you want a copy of my letter, please just email me and I'll be happy to send it to you in MS Word format. All I ask is that you not give it to anyone in Poinciana, FL or Edmond & Oklahoma City, OK. Thanks for understanding!
Toby - thanks for the kind words. We're raising the bar!
Bryant - I picked up on his enjoyment of that test, thought it was pretty funny. Thanks for the encouragement. I know it will pay off in the end (for everyone). Also, thanks for allowing me to share with others on this.
Overpriced listings are tough, but you can have them sign a Price Reduction form with the listing agreement. That way you don't have to go back and ask them to reduce the price.
Tamara - thanks for the input. Personally, I'm not a big fan of agreeing to reduce the price later, although I have done it. As I address in my post Is Your Home "For Sale" or "On Sale?" , the majority of the real quality buyers will come through in the first couple of weeks on the market. Many of those buyers will be missed if the listing is overpriced to begin with.
I believe alot of people put the burden of bills, family tuition and a place they want to live unfairly on their home. If you do a little show and tell on how much money they will lose being on the market too long, their property being invisible on the market to the right price bracket of people and the greatest one f all the appraiser you might be able to change their minds quicker...
It's a house, not a money tree, treat it as such and you'll be happier in the long run.
Seems we all face that these days. If they insist on being 10% or more above fair market value I thank them for their time and leave. In many cases they will chase you out the door and price it where you want it. If they are willing to stay less than 10% above fair market value I take it if they agree to lower the price in 21 days if we don't have any offers. Listings are a dime a dozen and buyers are rare. Taking an overpriced doesn't anyone any good.
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