My client sold his townhome and purchased a high rise condo that was a conversion. Naturally, the builder was offering a $4000 credit toward closing costs if you worked with his lender. I rarely advise my clients in this direction; however this savings was substantial and could not be matched by another lender. 

First, builder's lender is completely from another planet.  Met him at the open house and he was more interested in having pizza delivered instead of talking to my client.  "Qualified" my client (but didn't do a credit check), didn't verify his income (we knew he was tight).  About two weeks into the process he calls to say he can't do the loan. My client doesn't have enough income! Duh, didn't you check three weeks ago. He then puts us in touch with his "B money guy". Mr. Slick in Texas can sure do the deal for a four percent higher interest rate. In the meantime, I call my lender at Countrywide and he can do a "stated income loan" no problems. So I call builder's lender and have my lender talk to him. Well, still not sure he can do this. Now get this, builder's lender is Countrywide, however, they have opened up their own "branch" for this project. All he has to do is get my lender's info from the computer files. Nope, has no clue what's happening. When I try to reach him, he's always away from his phone, never has files so can never answer a question The straw that broke the camel's back, I called him to find out if he notified by buyer of his approval - got a message that his phone was disconnected.

So I called builder's representative to complain. I then went to the builder's website and wrote a letter to the Director of Operations about this fellow. Get a call two days later from another lender with an APPROVAL. Yes, approval. Life is good.

Now we are down to escrow, I'm reviewing the HUD as my buyer is on his way to escrow. No lender credit of $4000. I called the builder's escrow officer. She said she never received that addendum from the builder. Well, funny, the commission and credit were on the same addendum, so if commission was correct, WHO forgot the credit. Ok, changes were made.

Final straw, waiting for recording numbers and builder's escrow officer calls and says prior escrow officer didn't send enough funds to record and close today. There were loan conditions that two credit cards be paid off. "Loan conditions, I screamed. No one told me or the borrower there were loan conditions." Just then my phone is beeping and it's the lender ---- he tells me my escrow didn't send enough money. I said to him, "when were you going to tell me about loan conditions." He's silent. "Oh, it was miscommunicated". "Miscommunicated I pouted, how about you forgot to tell us. I suggest you call the client and remind him he'll be $10,000 short in his proceeds."  This could have been a DEAL KILLER, however, my client really wanted the property.

Now of course, keys and funding won't happen till tomorrow. By the way, the letter I wrote about the lender, got him dismissed of his services.  Guess what, I'll be writing a letter about the builder's escrow company and new lender that forgot to mention the word CONDITIONS.

This proves that as professionals we need to stay on top of things until the "last dog dies". Builder Mistakes - YES they happen.

 

12 Comments on Builder Mistakes, Oops, They Happen?

SEP
20
2006
Glad he were still able to get the house.  For many buyers in this market $10K really could be a deal killer.
8:29pm • #1
It's a good thing you stayed on top of this situation.  $10K could have indeed killed the deal, you must be happy that your buyer hung in there with you.  Here's to tomorrow.
10:07pm • #2
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More reasons why buyers need a good buyers agent who knows what they're doing.  Way to go.
10:17pm • #3
SEP
21
2006
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Congrats on your efforts - Your buyer is very fortunate to have you as their agent!!!

 

Kudos

7:53am • #4
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Brilliant, great save, some buying agents may have not handled this well and the deal could have gone sour. Kudos to you.
9:14am • #5
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Mistakes happen, but this kind of stuff drives me nuts.  This is why there is such a strained relationship between loan officers and realtors and why whenever one of my clients offers to purchase a house, I have such a problem with the listing agent, even though 9 times out of 10 they don't know me and have never met me.

I have said this before, and will continue to say it...There needs to be some type of mandatory training, continuing education and licensing exam for lenders in the financial real estate business...you have to do it to be a financial advisor, and in most cases peoples homes are a much bigger investment....why are there so many $&%*^*(ing idiots in this business?

9:17am • #6
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That was what I was talking about. Having teammates that you can trust to get you through closing. I do understand though that when you are using out of your realm, but what I do not understand is how people can sleep at night then they do not do their job completely. What's up with that?

 

12:03pm • #7
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Yuk! What a mess. Is it any surprise when I say that in most states, loan officers are not certified, examined or licensed. They could have been flipping hamburgers last week and, this week they arew a "Senior Loan Officer". That being said, I currently work with three different LO"s who each have more than 15 years in the business and are excellent. Builders are an entirely different breed. Sometimes they mistakenly take the adice of their listing agent about which lender to go with........
2:04pm • #8
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LO's like that give the rest of us a bad name.  It sounds like the LO was falt out scared to deliver the news. 

I preclose every loan.  My customers know what the have and what they need for closing as soon as I do (weather it be money, a utlilty bill, a letter).  I attend 98% of my closing. I tell me realtors when I have a, shall we say, customer with less then steller application.  I am sore to keep them posted throughout the process.

Surprises are nice when the come in big boxes, not sitting at the settlement table

3:16pm • #9
I am not surprised.  As a real estate attorney in connecticut that has practiced for over 10 years, I see my share of fly by night mortgage companies.  The key in real estate closings is making sure all of the professional parties are within your network, i.e your mortgage broker, your inspector, your appraiser, your title company/lawyer.  The more of your own people your client works with, the better you can control the outcome.  Good luck in the future.
3:58pm • #10
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Morris, I understand what you are saying. I have a network of professionals. In this instance my buyer was getting a $4000 buyer bonus from the builder if we used HIS lender. Thus the problems.
7:11pm • #11
SEP
26
2006
What a nightmare....... Well done girl. Show them all the power of realtor!!!
11:55pm • #12

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