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When the Distressed Deal is Just Too Distressed - Phoenix Home Builders in Trouble

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Real Estate Agent with Homesmart

As Phoenix area homebuyers look to cash in the winning lottery tickets in their hot little hands, it is worth noting that there is such a thing as biting off more than you can chew.  While market analysts and laypersons alike point to avarice as the primary machination that brought our economy to its current state, buyers need to be watchful that they don't get clobbered by the same pendulum that threatens to come careening back their direction.  As our populace accumulated far more Real property than it could actually afford at the height of the market, buyers today encounter a few substantial risks of their own.  First and foremost is the uncertainty of the status of the product they wish to buy at a deep discount.

This past fall, I was looking at a really sharp mid-century modern condo conversion project in downtown Phoenix.  Prices had come down considerably from their start point, and there were only a couple of occupied units amongst the 40 or so the development had in total.  We knew the opportunity existed to command a terrific bargain.  As a matter of fact, my jaw hit the floor when the developer later called me directly with an incredible offer on the unit my client found most appealing.  She loved the unit, I loved the price.  We were salivating.

And we passed.

I smelled trouble.  If the builder was willing to basically give the unit away to my client, what would prevent him from drastically cutting prices even further for future buyers?  The complex simply had "declining values" written all over it.  More to the point, however, I was concerned with the overall stability of the development.  I didn't want my client to move into a ghost town regardless of the price.

As it happens, our fears were well founded.  The complex, aside from the couple of units that sold a year ago, is now in the hands of the bank.  Lost to foreclosure, lord knows what will happen to the common grounds, let alone the individual units.  The poor occupants who jumped too eagerly must now worry that they will soon have squatters for neighbors and that their values and personal enjoyment of their homes will be further decimated.  As it stands, the prices on the units are now about 50% lower than the smoking deal we were offered back in the fall and declining as I type this.

I have seen too many builders pull out of developments, leaving the inhabitants with vacant lots and plummeting values for neighbors.  I'm not talking about mom & pop builders, either.  We're seeing formerly vibrant national builders circle the drain.

The long and the short of it is that you must protect yourself in this market by keeping an eye on more than the bottom line.  There are tremendous opportunities out there, but you must be dilligent in assessing the full situation.  Be aware of the risks you run when pushing for that little extra something in terms of price.  It's not always just about finding the cheapest thing that you can.

Even in this market, if it sounds too good to be true, it most likely is. 

There are resources at a buyer's disposal that can help you ascertain the stability of a builder or project.  I implore you to use them.  A good place to start is the Arizona Department of Real Estate, which features a list of home builders that are in financial trouble, tagged with mechanic liens or currently undergoing bankruptcy processes

By all means, use the current market to your advantage in commanding a great deal, just make sure that you are getting what you think you are stealing.

 

 

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Comments(14)

Gary Woltal
Keller Williams Realty - Flower Mound, TX
Assoc. Broker Realtor SFR Dallas Ft. Worth

Paul, just because something is low priced, doesn't mean it still can't go lower. Bargain today, foreclosure tomorrow. It is an amazing market sometimes. Love your advertisement to hire you. That's billboard material.

Mar 05, 2009 03:30 PM
Liz Moras Migic
Chilliwack, BC
Chilliwack, British Columbia - Realtor

Gary beat me!  Hire my Daddy!  Now how cool is that?  Yep unfortunately one of my favorite lines........'if it sounds too good to be true - it probably is! :-)

Mar 05, 2009 03:33 PM
Paul Slaybaugh
Homesmart - Scottsdale, AZ
Scottsdale, AZ Real Estate

Gary - Darn straight.  The old rules still apply: look for the bargain in a solid neighborhood.  This is so not the time to speculate on a community.  I want rock solid proof of value and stability before I'll even step into the batter's box. 

Liz - Could have said this to Gary, too, but I've had the picture on an outside blog of mine for awhile.  Took that in my front yard.  Not sure why I waited until now to unleash it upon my readership here.  It's my marketing trump card ;)

Mar 05, 2009 03:38 PM
Erik Hitzelberger
RE/MAX Alliance - Louisville REALTOR-Luxury Homes - Louisville, KY
Louisville - Middletown Real Estate

We have a builder who has been (creatively) financing homes in their own neighborhoods and then underselling residents for years.  During the good times, it took 4-5 years before buyers could get out at a break-even number.  Today, these neighborhoods have some of the highest foreclosure rates in Louisville.  I don't even like clients to drive by the entrance. 

BTW - my kids are obviously not as committed to our long term financial success as yours.  It's obviously time to start cutting back until they can earn their keep. 

Mar 05, 2009 03:44 PM
William Johnson
Retired - La Jolla, CA
Retired

A very post post Paul. How I hope all this bootoms soon  but I am afrraid that there may be more to come. Your instintcs seem on the money.  

Mar 05, 2009 03:45 PM
Paul Slaybaugh
Homesmart - Scottsdale, AZ
Scottsdale, AZ Real Estate

Erik - The empathetic, and shrewd for that matter, builders out here resisted price drops as long as they possibly could.  Up until last year, they combated the slower market with hefty incentives and design center credits, but refrained from undercutting the values of their previous customers.  Eventually, they had to yield to greater forces and many capitulated entirely.  Can't believe the developers who would cut the legs out from under their own client rolodex, though, in better times.  Crazy.

Perhaps your kids have just not been properly motivated yet.  Need to borrow my leaf blower?

 

William - In this case, it didn't take a real supersleuth to see the writing on the wall, but it does serve as a cautionary tale for those who would trample their own good sense in zealous pursuit of the mythical deal of the century.  The time is right to make well reasoned investment decisions.  There is abundant inventory in stable neighborhoods with historically sought after addresses.  Time to go buy those properties at the reduced, if not pennies on the dollar, pricing.

Mar 05, 2009 04:01 PM
Lynda Eisenmann
Preferred Home Brokers - Brea, CA
Broker Associate ,CRS,GRI,SRES, Brea,CA, Orange Co

Hey Paul,

Well said.

We've got a couple of complexes like that here in So Cal (one was a condo conversion about 4 years ago) and now everything you can see is a short sale there. I have a buyer that's been asking about them but I explained the situation and told them I wouldn't want to touch that place with a 10ft pole.

So who's the cutie who is the artist?

Mar 05, 2009 04:36 PM
Paul Slaybaugh
Homesmart - Scottsdale, AZ
Scottsdale, AZ Real Estate

Lynda - Yep, that sounds like a troubled development if I've ever heard of one.  As for the sidewalk artist, that would be my firstborn.  Gets his looks from his mom ;)

Mar 05, 2009 04:43 PM
C. Bartch
Newark, OH

Hi Paul, Your client had the good smarts to listen to you. Sometimes when a deal is so good a home buyer needs their Realtor to find out out why it's such a steal.

Great advertisement!

Mar 05, 2009 10:14 PM
Anonymous
Amber Salmon

I'm starting to feel for the buyers who are among the first to buy in these new construction areas. I did a market a few weeks ago for a home where the seller has been there for 3 years, and the neighborhood is yet to be complete. I can handle taking time to complete the area, but the "mass production" builders built a ton of home and finished them about 3/4 the way. Now those homes are becoming bank owned and because of codes they can only be bought by contractors who can finish them. Prices are dropping like crazy and current homeowners are feeling it.  Ouch!  Great advice for your client... keep it up!

 

Mar 06, 2009 04:48 AM
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Paddy (Patricia) Pizappi
Better Homes and Gardens Rand Realty - Pine Bush, NY
Real Estate Associate Broker Hudson Valley NY

This is happening all over Paul.  Watch out for condo associations too. 

Mar 06, 2009 06:25 AM
Mara Hawks
First Realty Auburn - Auburn, AL
Inactive-2012 REALTOR - Homes for Sale Auburn Real Estate, AL

We have several (which is TOO many for a small-town radius) of these developments that have turned into ghost towns, because---as you so perfectly phrased---'the builders circled the drain'... I was all riding along intensely on the train of this thoughtful post, when that most adorable ad changed my direction completely with a grin from ear to ear. That's the best!

Mar 06, 2009 10:33 AM
Janie Coffey
First Coast Sotheby’s International Realty - Ponte Vedra, FL
Uniting Extraordinary Homes w/ Extraordinary Lives

Great point!  All "deals" are not created equally.  I have a client looking at foreclosures in two very different areas.  One very stable with very few foreclosures and one in a new community where every other home is in a distressed situation.  He can get the better "deal" in the new community, but where will the two compare in 6 mo? in 2 Years?  The stable community will hold it's value and recover faster whereas the new construciton community may continue to decline, have high vacancy and not recover for many many years.  We are going to have a nice chat about this later today as a matter of fact!

Mar 06, 2009 11:02 PM
Chris Davis
Supreme Lending NMLS #2129 - Phoenix, AZ

Hey Paul How are you?  As you know the Condo Market is only good if it is an FHA approved complex!! This will serve your clients well as if the complex is not than yes stay away!.  HUD.GOV and search Condo's and it will tell you if they are approved.

 

The Financing for the FHA Condo's will be a better fit for the home owners in the Condo's and the will see the market stable!

Mar 08, 2009 03:34 PM