At the time, it was indistinguishable as a moment I would recognize down the line.  After being down the line, I knew exactly what that moment meant.

Some of the questions that we get asked as folks working in the Real Estate Industry seem rudimentary... at least to us

"Should I refinance" is a question I get often.  Personally, I'd love to answer with a resounding, "YES!" each and every time.  But I can't.  It's just not the way it works.  For eight years now, I've heard a bunch of folks answer that question in different markets, with different motives, with different companies... and I'm sure with different results in whether their particular client benefited from it and how much?

Here's my bullet points on that very question:

  • This is an easy one but how long do you plan on owning that abode you want to refinance?  To me, that's as crucial a part of the application process as asking what debts you have and what your social security number is.  By the way, I better get your immediate contact info too;)  Why?  You got the chance to consult me and I want at least, the chance, to consult you before you disappear.
  • Ideally, what are you looking to accomplish?  Do you want to save money and/or consolidate debt, broaden the array of Investors holding your Real Estate Portfolio, lower your interest rate, shorten your term, or skip a month's mortgage payment because you are buying time?  All are good reasons but the last.  The last is simply wasting equity... and time. *1A
  • If you can get a rate that is fixed in the four percent range (higher or lower 4% range) at a decent cost... one to two points at least... then you know something I don't.  Is it worth that cost?  See question number one.  If it is long-term (let's say 5-years plus) then you might want to jump as long as you have a lending source who is good with the vertical leap. *1B

 (If I'm boring you to death with this interview of sorts, let's spice it up a bit.  How's the weather?  You look like you've lost a heck of a lot of weight from when this photo was taken on your Driver's License?  Do you like David Bowie?)

  • Back to the bullet points, here.  It's tough times, in the Media & the Reality of it all.  But let's say I'm a 45 year-old man who has 15 years left on his mortgage.  Let's also say that I can refinance into a 10-year term and keep the same or a very similar, payment.  Should I do it?  If that's the situation, I think you should.  As long as your cash-flow and reserves (liquid assets) are in good order, you'll save a bundle of money in interest along the way.  And having a home that is paid off by the time you are 55 years of age is rarely a bad thing. 
  • I'm a Real Estate Investor and right now I don't have a whole lot of cash, yet I have a whole lot of Resume.  Do you have a branch that actually considers Common Sense Lending?  To keep this simple, "No."  I've thought about this and spoke about it with many individuals... opening up credit to legit Real Estate Investors may be a core stimulus in getting this rock rolling.  Hang on and talk to your lender of choice regularly. 

(I promise the torture is ending soon)

"I think of myself as a smart consumer, what does my credit score mean now?"  Rule your Credit Score.  If you are affording it, keep on keeping records of affording it.  It's like a GPA, doesn't mean much unless you know the system... or at least already mastered it.  The system loves a good GPA and a good Credit Score.  It means everything, right now. 

"I hear of the President's Plan, and I want that rate (whatever it was/is) for my Mortgage.  I'm seeing this one a lot.  Let me first say that I'm as bipartisian (hate that term, as there should be more than two;) as they come.  I have no my political agenda.  That written, please quit even wanting to rely on the government for anything.  Rates are what they are.  Seriously, if you can get a fixed rate in the 4% to 5% range on a 30-year mortgage... you won.  Trust me on that one.  Wait and opt for a better deal if you choose to roll the dice.  Personally, I've never been successful in Atlantic City and have never been to Vegas. 

 

Act Now; Think Later;)

 1A - I'll write about loan modifications down the road.  Unfortunately, they seem a necessity at certain points in the current atmosphere.

1B - I'm 6'1" and can't dunk a basketball at this moment in time.  A tennis ball is eye candy, though;)

 
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The first thing that comes to mind is that we need to set up a basketball hoop in the back of the house. The way you make it sound, I have a good chance of kicking your ass ;-)

I would like to add that in todays lending environment, homeowners need to ask this question BEFORE putting their home on the market. That 90 day rule still bothers me in that it doesn't allow people the option to take their home off the market in the event that refinancing becomes the better option over selling. HAVE THIS CONVERSATION WITH YOUR FAVORITE MORTGAGE PERSON FIRST!

Great writing, as always!

9:38pm • #1
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Cha-ching!  Reblogged.  I like "rule your credit score".  I had some otherwise-perfect buyers just discover on the eve of an offer that their paying all their bills off last year killed their score?  They had no idea.

9:39pm • #2
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Jason,

A lot of people are going to miss today's great loans while waiting for the pipe dreams promised by this President! A lot of good LO's may starve while the fools wait.

Good post!

Bill

10:09pm • #3
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Hey Jason, Yes, I do like David Bowie.  And unfortunately I have gained some weight since my driver's license photo...but it's a very old photo...great blog, my friend.  I love the credit score/GPA anaogy-ya gotta know the system!

Have a great weekend,

Marlene

10:43pm • #4
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Jason - you are wise beyond your years, my friend.  Great post.

11:46pm • #5
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Jason,

Great post...but...too heavy for 'spring ahead' night...!!! :)  Thanks,   Fran

11:52pm • #6
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08
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Jason...my almost favorite person :)  I have a lot of confidence in you and your knowledge as an established Mortgage Banker.  I wish you were licensed in CA, but one day :)  Bill is right, many people will miss out waiting for "that deal."

1:35am • #7
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Hi Jason, you are very gifted. I'm sure you could help me figure out how to ditch my little cabin and SUV for an Airstream. Great to read you this morning.

4:24am • #8
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Hey Jason - Seems like it's going to be a nice day here, and no I haven't lost weight but thanks for asking : )

 

6:07am • #9
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Can you write a blog about NO THE LENDER IS NOT LIKELY TO HELP YOU STAY IN YOUR HOUSE?

 

I keep getting calls from people who are getting behind in their mortgages and they call their lenders, ask for loan modification, and don't understand why the banks aren't helping them out of this mess. The public seems to think that this is what the banks are SUPPOSED to do now. But they're not! Help us explain to them what's going on...

9:07am • #10
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Let's cut to the chase and deal with the crux of this post: David Bowie is cool, but David Byrne is cooler!

10:15am • #11
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Jason, the refinance question and the scenarios you laid out are all valid. Sometimes it makes sense, other times not, depending on how long they want to continue to stay in a house. Plus a negative can be resetting the term back to 30 years when you could pay the loan off more aggressively either voluntarily on a steeper slope or a shorter term loan. Waiting for something better in a program is a crap shoot. If you are ready to get a loan, do the deal.

12:15pm • #12
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My Jennifer- Good point on looking to refinance BEFORE putting your house on the market.  Let's play this straight though; your 5'4" Spud Webb sucking behind has no chance on the courts with yours truly.  While I used to be a good shot in the day, akin to Mr. Larry Bird... now I play more like Dennis Rodman.  I'd tell you to duck but you won't have too.  Even my flying elbows stand 5'7":)

Jeff  - Thanks.  It gets quirky how credit scoring works.  You may want to share with them and all of your clients, this other post.

Bill- Pass the Ramen Noodles, man.  I'm out to educate hell or high water...

Marlene - Hey you, don't I know you;)  Hope things are well.  Somebody in Allentown misses you:)

Carol - So I've been told.  Yet, some rudimentary things to most are absolutely foreign to me.  If only I can get all of the synapses in this brain of mine firing at the same time, I may be able to change a flat tire and still have enough left to write a disposition on World Affairs.

Fran - What time is it anyway?

Kathy - Almost?  What is this?  This isn't horse shoes and grenades over here.  Either I'm your favorite or... well, "almost" works for now:)

Susie - Thank you.  I'll respond to the email in a bit:)

Sandra - I'm not totally sure you have any weight left to lose:)  And I think I have a firm handle on the weekend availability thing.  Adapt or Die... I'm still young so I'll chose adaptation.

Erica - In all honesty, that's next on my list.  I feel your frustration in reading your words.  I hope to make mine (words) resonate loud and clear.  I have some experience in the matter.

Ed - With those shades on, nobody is cooler than you:)

Gary - Well written, my friend.  Were you a Loan Officer in a former life?

1:35pm • #13
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Jason:

We gotta love some of the questions we get. None are stupid but there are those that are a bit more intelligent than others! I recall a time (some time ago) when the most predominant question that resonated from the earpiece was....What are your rates today? Just that question and that question alone? Seemly as though the caller was working their way down the yellow pages.  The way that I looked at it was.....Help Me....I don't know what I'm doing or what to ask?.....talk to me!  Golden opportunity to seize the moment and shape some thoughts before some other joker quoted a rate...any rate......and said....come on down!!

3:35pm • #14
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Thanks, Jason! I knew you'd be up to the task. I got 2 calls like that this weekend.

 

4:04pm • #15
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Jason- So glad you accepted my "almost" and I returned the favor by putting you in my "Special" list on my newest Post :)

5:02pm • #16
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I get a lot of questions these days about refinancing as well, and there are tons of people on the fence about whether or not they should.

5:16pm • #17
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Jason....   I agree with Ron, some of the questions or responses that we get are out there. I think that worst question is... what are your rates. Even more so if they don't let you ask questions. I now those same people this...  "Sorry, but I can't help you."  ;o)  You can't educate everyone...

Jeff Belonger

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Ron - 3.5% on a fixed term loan, no closing costs and I will even give your better half a back massage, free of charge.  And Bob Barker wouldn't make a good Originator these days:)

Erica - I've had several inquiries, myself.  This loan modification stuff needs to be teached on the fly. 

Kathy - I want to be special, but am not.  I love that you love me, though.

JL - It's actually simple.  Run the numbers and philosophical backround check and you're in. 

Jeff - Agreeing with Ron holds no shoulder in this county.  While we can't educate everyone, we can educate ourselves on why we couldn't educate them. 

 

9:28pm • #19
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I lived on dendrites and synapses while getting my master's degree.  I must say that your use of synapses is illustrious.  You da man...even if you are bi partisan.  I, am the opposite probably.  I really don't care for either party although I pray for both.  You're right in your thought processes here though J-bird.  Right on!

10:47pm • #20
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... great qualifying scenarios JS and way to be ready with the responses. Sometimes it's a good idea to refi, sometimes not, but I would want to work with a MB who's not just going to 'yes' me to put me into a program that may not be in my best interest.

Nicely said.

(And thanks again - you know you made me smile today ! Cheers mate !)

12:43am • #21
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Lots of refinancing questions - people need to examine their own situation and reason for refinancing, not just jump on the loan bus.

You have never been to Las Vegas??  I see you as a dice player, betting the don't, just to annoy people.  :)

12:59am • #22

Jason....   I agree with Ron, some of the questions or responses that we get are out there. I think that worst question is... what are your rates. Even more so if they don't let  air shox you ask questions. I now those same people this...  "Sorry, but I can't help you."  ;o)  You can't educate everyone...

angel
2:19am • #23
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Jason- It seems that a lot of people are sitting around waiting for their government handout and I have this convesation with them, don't depend on the government, you will get let down. In our area, this program is just not going to work, we are just too upside down! We also have the ATM syndrome in these parts. They will not qualify!

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Bettag - Listen you partisian fool, I personally love ya.  I haven't thought about the "dendrites" thing... I'll look into it:)

Sheldon - Call me your Numeron Uno "Yes/No" Mortgage Man;)  You're a good man, Sheldon Neal.  You are the kind of guy that can make anyone's day.  Cheerio, bro.

Virginia - No I haven't.  And you are pretty much right on when it comes to my dice playing personality.  I once was in Atlantic City playing a card game and almost gave a gentlemen a heart attack because I didn't follow "the basic standards of playing the game."  My response was, "Hey, I don't even know how to play the game, but my $100.00 buy-in is as good as yours."  We parted knowing that we'd never exchange birthday wishes;)

Angel - Somebody get me an IP Address De-Scrambler.  Ahhh, what's the point?  I do see you are throwing a bit of a shout out to what I believe to be "Wholesale Nike Air Shox" products and gear.  That's glorious.  Does this mean you want to face me one on one on the basketball court?  I don't think so.

Katerina - When you are screwed enough times, I suppose it is reactionary to ask the folks that screwed you for some help.  The real answer is probably just getting firm on your heels and going after what you want... assuming you don't hurt anybody in the process. 

 

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I was fairly lucky back in 2005...my rate is 5.8 30 yr fixed...no points..no prepayment penalty..we also had 40% down...maybe not as much equity right now but I'm not selling it and even if we did...we would still be ok...those rates would be nice for many people now.

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Jason - Great post and super questions and answers.  The REFI questions come up a lot for Realtors too when we speak to homewowners and especially investors.  We need to be somewhat rehearsed in terms of what is going on.  Your answers make a lot of sense as a lot of folks do not really understand.    It is rough out there !!!  Hopefully things will get better and there will be less fear and uncertainty.

8:08am • #27
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"That written, please quit even wanting to rely on the government for anything."

Yes we have heard that here too. And that is my advice too.

Please folks don't depend on the gov't.

8:15am • #28
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Too many straddling the fence and when the markets turns they will still be straddling. I think if the government would bump the rates a little, it may get em off the fence.

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Jason - Great advice - I have chosen myself not to refinance, simply because I am ok with my 6%.  Maybe that is stupid, but it's a fixed rate over the life of my loan and I think it would take a while to make up what it would cost to buy down the rate to where i wanted it - not sure in the long run it would be worth it - who knows -maybe i will sell it?

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Hi Jason-Just wanted to stop in and congratulate you on the well deserved feature. This post is very well written, thought out and executed brilliantly. Great job. Enjoy your Monday. :-)

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Jason... All this great advice dolled out while other mortgage guys would have said hell yeah lets re-fi that sucker I need the spread. You may have breezed past the most important lesson of the post with out elaborating enough and that is: Don't rely of the Government for anything.. people that wait and hope for someone else to fix their issues will be lost in this system, and wonder what happened later. Miracles went out with loaves and fishes.

10:14am • #33
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Jason: Thanks for the post. I too don't always think it's worthwhile to refinance. It can be expensive to do so and the savings aren't always that great. A true mortgage professional will be objective, look at both sides, and let the borrower decide. Take care.

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Neal - Sounds like you got a good deal, man.  By the way, pre-payment penalities were a force primarily owned by the sub-prime & commercial lending landscapes.  I'm almost sure you probably went conventional.

Chris & Steph - Sorry, I'm downsizing names these days;)  I think just being in the industry causes all sorts of questions to fall our way.  Whether they are our jurisdiction or not.  The following three questions came from a telemarketer, good friend, & rival gang member:

  • How many houses did you sell last year?
  • The last time my house was appraised was in 2002, what's it worth now?
  • What do you think about buying vacation homes overseas during these times?

Missy - I voted "Gus Hall" by the way;)

Charles -  Confucious says, "Those who straddle the fence often get grinded away between the hips." 

Emily - You may be right.  I could sit here and do a payment comparison, interest breakdown, ammortization schedule, and ten jumping jacks while whistling the Three Stooges Theme Song... but that doesn't mean that you aren't in the best position for YOU. 

Sharon - Thank you.  I know you don't mean that, but thank you;)

Lisa - Sure beats my original analogy of ... well, this is public.

Steve - Good comment, amigo.  But about those loaves?

Paul - Thanks for stopping by.  Refinancing, like shopping in general, is always going to cost.  One must stomach if it's worth it.

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Jason: Love your blog!! The information is terrific to have right now, especially when I own 2 houses and am thinking about what I am going to do next---As a real estate broker I am finding there are a number (not alot) of people who have always wanted to be in the Hamptons and are now making the decision to buy....But, I am constantly being asked about options to selling a home--this is a second home market and there are less apt to be people in trouble with their mortgages. However, I am finding that, as rates drop, homeowners are torn between listing their homes for sale or digging in and staying where they are instead of looking for the larger home. It is good to know that the re-financing thing can still work for some---I will certainly use that as another option for a seller who decides to stay a while longer. ( I like to keep them happy---they always come back to me when they do buy :)

...Loved the song by INXS too; Thanks....:)

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... just for the record you just freaked me out a little bit !!!

    .... you linked your 'Cheerio' reply to me to one of my ALL TIME favorite songs and videos !!!!

Christopher Walken is a riot and I was JUST TALKING ABOUT THIS VIDEO THIS MORNING !!!!! NO JOKE !! ... tooooo funny and the fact that you chose that to relate to me, makes me think we are even more on the same page than I thought b4 !!!! ... Big Ups brutha Sardi !!!!!!!

            

4:57pm • #37
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OK Jason since you don't know me very well I will let that comment slide but rest assured Sharon wouldn't say it if she didn't mean it and you can take that to the bank. have a great evening YE of little faith. ;-)

5:37pm • #38
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Excellent post. Thanks! I keep getting the question, why can't I get that 4% interest rate. My response: it ain't gonna happen: Status of Home Loan Rates

9:58pm • #39
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Careful Sheldon.... he's taken :))

10:11pm • #40
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... darn it ... I thought I was making progress ...

 

 

  

10:15pm • #41
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And I was a little afraid you WERE making progress!!! You should see that boy in a tight skirt and a pair of heels!

10:20pm • #42

Nice post.  The number one question and thing you pointed out is what are you trying to accomplish.

11:41pm • #44
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Shelden, for just three installments of $29.99, I'll send you the entire catalog! Act now, and I'll throw in an unforgettable bonus video :))

 

11:52pm • #45
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Heck Yeah !! Color me there !!!

... whats the number I have to call ?

  ... oh I found it ... 1-800-SAUCY-SARDI

Thanks Jennifer - I appreciate the heads up ... Oh and I'm adding extra for Express Shipping ...

 

11:58pm • #46
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LMAO! I'm going to be rich!!!

11:59pm • #47
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Good Post and you make many relevant points!  You sound like a mortgage banker who really cares about your clients!  I have been wondering about refinancing myself, this may spur me to call my lender today...thank you.  oh, BTW, I plan to live here for many more years and have a good credit score (see I did read it all the way thru!)

7:43am • #49
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Super post. After reading all the comments I'm starting to think that this thread is looking more and more like a facebook wall..... :)

5:27pm • #50
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11

Have a buyer client now who was/is not happy about being quoted 6% by the lender.  Credit scores were just OK but she is diligently trying to get the best rate she can for him.  Not everyone will qualify for good rates but that is hard to convey sometimes.

10:00pm • #51

Ok, so I don't really have anything to add here but I am just glad to see your still around.  I was worried about you. 

10:46pm • #52

Ok so I lied,  I AM waiting for that 4% rate so I think Wait and opt for a better deal and roll the dice, but only because I already have a great rate now....Fortunately for me I'm not holding my breathe.

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"I hear of the President's Plan, and I want that rate (whatever it was/is) for my Mortgage."  I'm seeing this one a lot.

 

Amen, brother.  I kind of wish the powers that be would just shut their traps about possible rate plans until they are announcing a done deal, because the misinformation and brainstorming is creating an unrealistic expectation in the consumer's mind.  I have spoken with too many potential buyers to count that have opted to wait a bit longer before purchasing because they "heard" a 4% program was coming down the pike.  Assuming it would be for everyone, if it ever materializes at all.  There are good, valid concerns causing people to refrain from purchasing (as is always true), but this one drives me nuts.  Pure speculation might be barring people from buying at the height of affordability because they think things might get just a bit more affordable.  Like you, I usually walk away from the blackjack table with empty pockets.  If I'm in the market to buy, I thank my lucky stars for the opportunities available right now.  I don't chance waiting myself right out of primetime because some goof on the hill starts shooting off his mouth about a program that will never fly.

10:54pm • #54
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Paula - I appreciate the feedback and truly hope that this little blog comes in handy for you and folks you know down the road.

Sheldon - Perhaps you are my British Brother:)

Sharon - Well thank you.  I will take that to the bank:)

Ann - I will check out your post.

Jennifer - That I am.

Sheldon - Persistence goes a long way with me;)

Mike - Yes.  That is one of the major things I like to get a grasp on right out of the shoot.

Jennifer - Now that's a bargain!

Sheldon - Please remember that referrals are the lifeblood of our business:)

Jennifer - Excellent.  Now we can afford that trip to Italy!

Sheldon - It's getting hard to keep up around here:)

Sonya - Very nice.  Hey, if you can read a blog dealing with Mortgages the whole way through... you are probably either a Money Geek or I may have made it a tad bit interesting.

Jeff - You'll find that on many of my post;)

Latonia - That it is, that it is.

Marie - No worries, Marie.

Marie - Probably a smart move, not holding your breath.

Slaybaugh - Exactly.  And speculation can feed for eventual disappointment.

 

4:26pm • #55
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Great information. Thanks.

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