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That depends on what ‘knowledgeable' is...

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Real Estate Appraiser with Estimation Nation Corporation

I hear grumblings from Realtors every now and again that sound something like this... ‘Why should we have to get an appraisal done when the house is on the open market and there are knowledgeable buyers and sellers who have agreed upon a price?'

 An episode of HGTV's My First Place (entitled ‘Hoping to Persist in Phoenix') summed up my answer.  I can't remember all of the monetary details, but the story goes something like this:

  • Couple transfers from the East Coast to Arizona
  • Buyers Agent finds them a house within their price range
  • Couple is ready to put in an offer
  • Buyers Agent in suspicious about the asking price (even after the sellers dropped the price $30,000)
  • Buyers Agent makes a contingency to sellers that they pay for an appraisal to be done on the house prior to buyers formally signing purchase agreement to determine market value
  • Appraiser's opinion of value was about $35,000 below the price that both the ‘knowledgeable' buyers and sellers were about to agree upon
  • Sellers reluctantly drop their price so that a bank will give them a loan

I give grand kudos to the Buyers Agent for seeing this glaring price deficiency before it extended the purchase process for these first time home buyers that were on a time crunch or became a deal killer all together. 

Although this example was based on out-of-town buyers that my not have necessarily been ‘knowledgeable' about the market it is not isolated to transplants.  First time home buyers often do not know what to expect ... sellers will presume that their $80,000 remodel is worth $80,000 more than their neighbors house.... buyers find a house that has ‘special financing qualifications' and simply look at their monthly payment... sellers don't know the market, they only know how much they need to sell their house for...   The list is endless as to why the list price may not be the right price, but the final conclusion will probably be the same... if the buyer wants lender financing, the purchase price needs to be reasonable or the buyers willing to come in with a greater down payment.

Jason Sardi
Auto & Home & Life Insurance throughout North Carolina - Charlotte, NC
Your Agent for Life

While an appraisal is simply an educated evalution of a property's worth, it's the best thing going today in what that property is truly worth.  At least, that's what I think.  When you talk local in Real Estate, not too much is more local than getting an appraiser who knows the area.  Wish you would post more often, Sarah:)

Mar 14, 2009 04:42 AM
Ross Westerman
Kingwood, TX

The CMA the buyer's agent prepares for their client is not worth much unless it is very close to what the appraisal will be.  The same goes for the CMA the listing agent prepares for their client.  It matters not what the seller wants to receive or what the buyer wants to pay if the property does not appraise, unless the buyers are willing to make up the difference of the appraisal to purchase price.  In the market I work in the lender orders the appraisal and will not use any appraisal from another source (I feel confident lenders are the same all over) so the seller would have thrown money away.  The contingency in the contract should have been, if the home did not appraise for the purchase price then the contract would be terminated and earnest money returned.  This still leaves the buyers losing option fee and inspection fees so best to negotiate the price close to what the appraisal may be.  An agent should know what the appraisal will come in for or darn close to it.  The lenders appraisal always rulz.

Mar 14, 2009 05:09 AM
Sara Goodwin
Estimation Nation Corporation - Portland, OR
Portland, Oregon Appraiser

Thanks, Jason - Two in one day... can you believe it - I'm trying to catch up here -

Ross - I have to agree that the lender sets the rules (and why shouldn't they?  It's their money), however more than once I've had lenders overturn my opinion of value to back some AVM (automated valuation model... like Zillow).  Sometimes the lender plays it safer than safe and the appraisal gets kicked to the curb - This is most common with lenders that are distanced in space and knowledge about the northwest market.

Mar 14, 2009 05:21 AM
Li Read
Sea to Sky Premier Properties (Salt Spring) - Salt Spring Island, BC
Caring expertise...knowledge for you!

Good post!    You bring up the heart of the matter -- verification.   

Mar 14, 2009 05:28 AM
Pangaea Interior Design Kitchen & Bath Design, Remodeling
Portland Oregon - Portland, OR

Interesting post. I'm thinking appraisers have their work cut out for them in the market right now. I can't imagine how much pressure they may be getting to be conservative in their appraisal numbers by lenders. No loan, no house, right? At least for most of us.

Mar 14, 2009 02:28 PM
Rita Bradley
Laguna Hills, CA
Valuation Consultant in Orange County California 949-916-3263

ARggghh can't believe lenders are using an AVM to dispute a knowledgeable appraiser's opinion.  They are probably losing out on a number of good loan. 

So during the boom-make bad loans.  During the bust-turn down good loans.  Makes a lot of sense.

Mar 14, 2009 03:40 PM
Sara Goodwin
Estimation Nation Corporation - Portland, OR
Portland, Oregon Appraiser

Thanks, Li!

Pangaea - Would you believe that with interest rates low and business at a rapid pace for appraisers right now, we get fewer contact from the underwriters... even in this market?  PS - I feel quite comforted that your web site boasts a sectional and ottoman that looks very similar to my own.... for the moment I'm feeling I have an inkling of fashion sense (nice staging!) :-)

Hi Rita - Do you get this at all or do they just pick on us NW appraisers?

Mar 17, 2009 03:05 PM
Holly Ivy-Wyllie
Keller Williams Portland Premiere - Salem, OR

Good information...it's about protecting the client and if there is any concern or question on "is the home pricing correct"...this would be a great way to handle the situation.  Thank you.

Mar 18, 2009 05:50 PM
Jeremy Cowin
Jeremy Cowin Appraisals - Altadena, CA

Very interesting that one being "knowledgeable" can lead them to try and take advantage of a situation or like the seller's agent was "Knowledgeable" enough to sniff out something 'quite not right!"  Kudo's to the agent.  Interesting post!

Mar 19, 2009 01:05 PM