I wrote a blog If I Were John Rockefeller... and my neighbor and inquisitive mind Lisa Hill, a born Daytonian, left a comment, actually asked a question. I could answer "yes" or "no", but this was a question that I often ask myself.Lisa Hill I started answering, and soon I saw that it was more that just a response to Lisa's comment.

In the time of skyrocketing prices, and the money available to any breathing soul, a lot of agents pushed a lot of clients, friends and relatives into the buying spree. It was especially vivid with new condo developments and residential single family developments. Anything with pre-construction.

I understand that we are in business, and the goal is not losing money, but making money. We are regulated by law and Code of Ethics. Nobody said that COE is given to us by God, and sometimes what is considered ethical is really not nice to do to a colleague.

The fine line between being plain greedy and ethical stemmed more from our ability to comprehend the overall situation, the ability to see a bigger picture, not from abiding by the law or COE. If people come to you and tell yo that they have the money and they want to sign for 2 condos here, and 2 condos there, and another two in another project, you can start thinking that you got the perfect client for whom money is not the issue. Or think that you deal with a candidate for a financial disaster.

In the time of hype, I often questioned myself about the sanity of what was happening. I did not feel comfortable, I could not understand how could this keep expanding and where the money were to come from. But I was an immigrant, and I was not and often I am not sure that my conclusions stand any ground in this country. I was watching for the clear signs of the slowdown and subsequent losses, and I did not see them (not that there were no signs). I was reading Realtor Magazine and David Lereah was all cocky about the market. I saw fellow agents buying properties for themselves right and left, I saw mortgage brokers financing their own numerous purchases.

Was I the smartest, or just a bad businessman? This was a tough question to answer. I remember that I wrote a 3 page "scream of the soul" type of thing, where I called people not to buy pre-construction, and I wrote that in 2 years they could go and buy the unsold units from the developers at $100K-$150K less than the pre-construction price.

My reasoning was wrong. My guess was right.

At that time there were about 8,000 units in construction, in the permitting phase and on the drawing board. That was more than the number of condos coming at one time in Las Vegas. And Daytona is not Las Vegas. So, I thought that the combination of high prices, which already were absolutely obvious, and huge inventory would result in huge oversupply.

8,000 units were not built, not even half, not even a quarter of this number. But when the market collapses, even few is too many. And I can get the discounts from the developer way better than $100K-$150K.

Even though I had no clue that we were going to a big change in the market, I simply could not tell people to use all their cash on down-payment only, like many other agents were doing here. I was telling people that even though they might flip their units at time of closing, it was not guaranteed, and that they might have to buy the units and hold to them for... up to 24 months. Again, I terribly missed the mark, but at least I tried to fend off immediate flip notions. And that was at the time when the prices were going up and flipping  the near future looked more than promising.

I had a client from Minnesota. I knew he was no longer working (not of a retirement age though), and his wife was working in HR, but it was not something that could allow the lavish style of living in the most luxurious condo on the ocean.

He reserved a unit in Ocean Villas, then bought a unit in Tuscany at a price, which was already too high, and I was not advising him on that. Then he signed reservations for 2 units in Marina Grande on the Halifax. At that point I calculated that to do all that, he has to have available about $2 Mil. I was far from being confident he had that type of money. I knew that he could get something out of the stock, but I thought that this was more of a gamble.

So, I confronted him and told him point blank that unless he has $2 Mil in unencumbered funds, he was gambling. He did not understand me. He demanded explanation. So, I explained to him that he might need to close on the unit and be able to hold it for as long as 2 years (how wrong I was, it takes longer than that), so he had to have enough money to do that. Nothing that I did not say before, but he remembered only what he wanted to hear.

He got very angry. He had no intention to buy the units. I had to arrange simultaneous closings, and he would walk away with $$$$$. Obviously he believed that my calling on this earth was to provide him with the heavenly lifestyle, and that he was a deserving person.

He was still lucky as by the time they called him to convert reservations to contract, the market started showing the first signs of tiredness. He canceled reservations and got his deposits back. He cut me off his list as he was so angry with me for not promising him easy money. (Of course, I could promise, I simply was not sure that I could deliver.) He felt that I evicted him from the paradise.

He never asked me why I was not doing it myself if it was so easy to rake $300K-$500K a few times a year. It just did not cross his mind.FunCoast Realty

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7 Comments on Evicted From Paradise

MAR
14
2009
438,013 Points 79 Featured Posts Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Jon, this is an excellent post. One of your best I believe! Not very often does a man depend on his instincts as you have been willing to do. You were right about the fact that what goes up must come down. Many of us, myself included, never wanted to see the darkness at the end of the tunnel and we were too optimistic for the times!

Recently in Austin there has been a huge boom of pre-construction high rise developments. This I know because I considered sinking a sizable down payment into an iddy biddy teeny widdle floorplan on the 15th floor overlooking the city, hills and water. It sounded so good at the time and I left my option money with paperwork. I was sold till I began to hear that internal voice telling me that I could take a blood bath!

Your post here reminds me of this and I think I'll go back and check to see how this build is going. The square foot price was something ludicrous like $532.00 per...thank heavens I got my wits about me. This downward spiral hasn't been good for so many.

Later in the rain~Deb

6:39pm • #1
MAR
15
2009
113,792 Points 1 Featured Post Called Shot Master

This is true. I get calls from people from New ork who would say that when the pricesfall below $$, they want me to call them.

First, they really think that the prices will be just pennies. Then they think that if this really happens, I would have nothing better to do than call them. When and if this happens, there will be enough people to pick stuff going for close to nothing

2:13am • #2
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Vadim - this is funny. When people look you in the eyes and ask you to call them when it will be absolutely a steal.

If it is for nothing, why would not we buy it?

The trick is that there is no such thing as stealing, If you tell them that here's the steal, and show it to them, do they buy? No. They still want it to be less. So, unless you call them and say that you would pay them to take the property over, you are wasting your time.

11:19pm • #3
MAR
17
2009
210,838 Points 1 Featured Post

Very good article Jon. Congratulations on being able to step back from the melee and being able to question the ethics of the deals. In the end it all comes down to being able to face what you see in the mirror each morning. Thankfully we did not see the same insanity in our market during those wild times, as when I think about it honestly, I'm not sure I would have been able to resist the lure of easy money. As I have always tried to explain to my customers, no deal is worth risking 17 years in this business and my ability to continue in this business.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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6:05am • #4
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Deb - Thanks for the comment. I am also surprised that many of those agents who were so actively involving people in reserving properties outrageously are now selling those properties n short sale, and have no problem to go to the same clients with that.

I can't understand how these people agree to deal again with the same agents. You can never really understand people.

8:10am • #5
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Jim - Thanks, but I was not a winner. I was a hesitant guy, caught in something that I did not believe in, but did not fully trust my own instincts. The guy, who was trying to find the direction from NAR, and did not find it.

It is not easy, you are right. Temptation is strong, and I am not the G-d.

Tough.

8:13am • #6
592,224 Points 22 Featured Posts Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp

John- Thanks for the mention! And this is awesome! You were doing your job, to advise your client, from your own expertise! I try to preface a lot of my advice with a statement like that. If we're the professionals, then obviously we're going to have foresight that the public does not have.

Also..."he believed that my calling on this earth was to provide him with the heavenly lifestyle, and that he was a deserving person"... Unfortunately, this has been the attitude of most Americans for many years. The change in the economy has thankfully, knocked the arrogance levels down a few notches.

I'm now going to write a response to your response. LOL  I have more to say, but when you read my next post, I think you'll understand why I decided to blog it instead of put it in the rest of this comment =)  It's going to be a few hours though. I have to run right now. I'm glad I got your message about this post before I left.

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