Ben Bernanke

 

Mr. Ben Bernanke is considered the 4th most powerful man in the world in the banking sector and can at times operate independent of the President of the United States.

Not sure if you watched the 60 minutes interview of Ben Bernanke. I was impressed because he seems down to earth, humble, and caring about Main Street USA. - Mr. Bernanke grew up in Dillon, a small town in South Carolina.  He remembers the culture of Dillon and applies it to his decisions.  In the interview, they talked about his childhood home that was bought by another family, which is now in foreclosure. You could see that something of this magnitude has struck 'home' with him and he wants to do something about it.

 

 

 

As we know, when it comes to the media, no matter if it's news print, television, the radio, or onlinethe story in many cases seems to tell only one side of the issue and certain people and certain groups control what is discussed. This control was evident in the interview and I am not the only one that thinks this way. I called my parents last night and they both watched the video. My dad has been successful in business and has a good grasp of business and macro economics. He flat out told me that he didn't like the interview because it didn't tell him much and felt that important details were lacking. My mom thought there was too much fluff and that Bernanke seemed insincere (could see it in his eyes). And if you read the comments from the video, there were 4 or 5 others that felt the same. 60 minutes video - interview with Ben Bernanke -

 

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So why am I scared after listening to the interview? After more than 16 years in the mortgage industry, having a very good understanding on how mortgages work and our current market situations.  After talking to a few financial experts, my fears were confirmed.

 

Mr. Bernanke made this statement. "You don't get a sustained economic recovery as long as the financial system is in crisis." - I agree with this statement, but we need plans and to make this happen. We also need the political will to do the right thing. Bernanke goes on to say that he feels the recession will end this year and that we will have a recovery by next year. Is this to boost consumer confidence? Hey everyone, I am all for positive thinking and positive information. But I am also a strong believer in the truth, no matter if it hurts or not. I just think Mr. Bernanke skated around several questions with answers that were very vague and weak.

If the credit crisis was the most important issue then it should have been addressed first.  Instead there was some money thrown at the problem and then came the stimulus and the bloated budget.  Now there is nothing left (short of printing presses) to fix the real problem.  Some say it could take a Trillion to stabilize the credit market.

 

He also made statements such as :

 

  • He stated that we were very close to a financial meltdown. (personally I think we are still on the brink of meltdown. My recovery prediction would be sometime in 2011. But I guess we have to define recovery, which Mr. Bernanke didn’t provide.)


  • Bernanke was asked why we were so close to a financial meltdown?  Bernanke stated that we didn't regulate enough. How about this one. Shouldn't we have people watching over those that regulate?  I have been screaming about regulating in regards to mortgages when it came to such things as : good faith estimates, APR's, and false advertising of interest rates and fees since 1994. We knew about this back then. Many were living it large, living it fat, all the way up to 2006, until the shit hit the fan. Our lack of regulations hit us square in the face, yet we found other excuses to place the blame on. Here is what I think about Government Intervention and regulations.

 

  • Bernanke stated that the Federal Reserve has pledged 1 Trillion dollars in spending which has supported :

--  money market funds

--  mortgages

                        --  auto loans

--  small business loans

--  student loans, etc, etc

 

 

This commitment has doubled the size of the Fed's balance sheet.  He was then asked if this is tax payer's money. He said, no, it isn't. He went on to describe that banks have accounts with the Fed just as we have accounts with the banks. This method is akin to printing money, which the Federal Reserve is printing by the ton. Listen to the video on this part, about using computers to mark up the size of the accounts.  The “black hole” was created when the government preempted the decisions a free market system – who wins and who loses.

 

 

Near the end of the interview, Mr. Bernanke was asked what would be one of the first signs of a recovery. He stated, "A large bank will be successful when it is able to raise private equity." This is so true in business, but how long will this take?  Do many banks just feel that they can rely on the government to bail them out?  Because Mr. Bernanke did make a statement that he will not let any banks fail. Hhhhhmmmm

 

 

 

Conclusion:  Mr. Bernanke did say that a lot of mistakes were made. Well, that's good to admit, but I think we already knew this. He was then asked what could be done to also help in the recovery.

 

  --Banks need to make loans, to find a way, and "to have a reasonable sense of humility." Wow, how daunting and daring is that statement. So as a bank, I should suck it up, and make it work, not knowing if I will be compensated if the borrower fails?  Isn't that how the foreclosure mess started?  Didn't the Clinton administration strong arm Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, telling them to make more loans affordable, by lowering credit scores and raising loan-to-values. The biggest issue at the time was 100% financing, which is not for everyone and to push stated loans at such high LTV's, loan-to values.

  --Reviewing banks practices.  Okay, shouldn't this have been done in the beginning?  And he went on to say, "to toughen regulations". hhhhmmmm - How tough? Tough enough to where people can't even get a simple loan?  Wait, I thought he said for banks to make loans, to find a way.

 

 

Mr. Bernanke, my question to you is, which is it. I don't think we can have our cake and eat it too. That took place from 2003 to 2005 and look at us now. I am starving because not only I can't have my cake, but it's not there to be eaten.

 

 

Food for thought?   How about slight change and dumping some money into the economy. And then letting the market work itself out... ???

 

 

 

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63 Comments on I would like to interview Mr. Bernanke because I am scared!!!

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Jeff,

It is a complicated mess. That is for sure. I hope that some of the politicians know what they are doing but I am not so sure.

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I'm convinced that NO ONE knows what they are doing.....I've seen it go from one extreme to the other and I was one of the few who could sleep at night with the way I counseled my clients.....and now that I have that repeat referral business, I  can't sleep b/c  I can't  help more than half of those people!

I vote Jeff for President!  Ok well at least for Fed Chairman.......

9:43pm • #2
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I had a different take about not regulating enough, I thought it was more in reference to the Mortgage Backed Securities and Credit Default Swaps.  You know, those more complicated instruments which exponentially parlayed mortgage defaults into the huge crisis we are now facing.  The stuff that AIG and friends got into.

Yes we can look to the strong armed tactics of the Clinton administration attempting to make housing affordable for lower incomed folks, but remember many of these mortgage failures began in well-off middle and upper middle class areas.  

I thought the Bernanke interview was quite sincere and informative.

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Jeff- I think that the successful entrepreneur, self made successes, know more about this than Bernanke or any one that is being relied on knows. They all have it wrong.

It is not lack of regulation, it is too much regulation and no oversight over that regulation. It is the dinasour theories of market to market. There is so much more.

The bottom line is you can not stop the fall. Just let it fall. Will it hurt, yes, will we overcome, of course. This is the nature of capitalism. You must allow markets to work and fail.

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Good post Jeff as always.

Think about taking off a band-aide:  do you want to slowly remove it and have it take awhile or just rip it off and get it over with?

THe Fed seems to prefer the slow approach with all the money its throwing around in bailout funds.

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Jeff,

I thought it was a strange interview. It seemed to me to be more like a PR campaign for Bernake and the Fed. How striking and humbling, Bernake came from Main Street, his family house went into foreclosure, and his parents had to spend their savings to send him to Harvard.

Wow, just an average joe right?

And then the doors open and the camera pans around the room in the Federal Reserve where decisions are made and no real answers to the pressing financial questions and issues facing us and this statement about recovery at the end of 2009? Do as I say not as I do?

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STEVEN..... . ouch, that word hope. We should throw that word out of our vocabulary for the next 4 years. It was abused and misused in the election, in my opinion.  Sure, I would certainly hope pray that some politicians know what they are doing. My fear is that many are now paying back each other for certain favors that were granted.  But yes, it certainly is a complicated mess out there.

COLLEEN.... . well, you I would be hard pressed to find some that know what they are doing. I love how Obama states that he has some of the best economists in the world. Yea, by whose definition.  Those that agree with the president, that are his puppets?  Just food for thought. And thanks for the vote of confidence, but I wouldn't want the job. I stick to reality and the truth, not the fluff theory just to make people happy and feel all warm inside.

 

MIKE..... .  well, I would semi agree that he was talking about the mortgage backed securities to. But he was so general and vague, that he didn't say 110% what needed to be regulated. Then again, maybe I need to listen to it a 3rd time.

About the Clinton administration strong arming for low income families to get loans. Maybe I should have clarified my statement...  the Clinton administration was to work on low income and just getting anyone into housing. The 100% programs and stated were for anyone, rich, poor, or in the middle.

In regards to his interview... yea, sincere, but sincerity can be the root of all evils also. You know how many times that I heard from a borrower that their loan officer was really nice, even though they lied and screwed up a deal. In my opinion, it's easy to lie and sound sincere. Sure, he had me in some spots and I was cheering for him... but at the same time, because of what I know, I could see through it. My mom, basically a house wife of many years, but has the smarts and common sense, she even said that you could see through him.  Just my .02...  thanks for your input.

 

NESTOR..... .  I think it could go in many directions, to who knows what, and those that have a good idea and understanding of it all. And I truly believe those that have a better idea about our financial mess, aren't being given the limelight in the media. I have found in many cases that the gov't wants to dish out false hope. They are worried about consumer confidence and one way to get that going in the right direction is to put a spin on things... leave some things out. Not tell the complete truth. The numbers don't lie...

Overall, I agree and I wrote about this, about over regulating. Government Intervention - When is enough enough !!!

And I agree, we need to let it work itself out, allowing the market to correct itself. Yes, it will hurt, but we won't be paying for this mistake for years to come then. Well, 5 decades or so.... but maybe that it will only be years.  thanks for your input.

 

DREW...... . take the band aide off really quick. So I agree, it does seem that the Fed is taking the slow approach. We need more people to step in and speak their minds. What else can we say and or do?  And thanks for the polite compliment.

REBECCA....  I would agree and thought the same to myself when watching the interview. Going from a poor town to an elaborate building and office. Maybe this is one way to feel powerful, is to look powerful. You know how they say dress for success. But what about being humble instead?  Down sizing or in this case, scaling back some.  Overall, good observation about the PR angle.

 

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Hey Big Jeff - Hope all is well.

Yep, I saw the interview and yes Bernanke appears very geniune if not down right humble.  I just wish he would use his authority and enforce some things he surely could influence........instead of just banging the phone down.  Anyway, he's in a no win situation but still comes across like a down to earth person.

Cheers

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I think your reflection of being scared is what 90% of today's households feel. Until this scared feeling is going away we are in for some bumpy roads.

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Jeff, nice recap of the interview. I can only HOPE it is over by 2010. Well at least maybe stabilize. The banks have money they need to start lending NOW.

Fannie and Freddie need to change their lending rules now for condos. They are hurting us. WE can't get our buyers in because they are not FHA approved.

Some aren't finished so they just sit there because if you don't have conventional financing you can't get in.

It hurts the sellers they can't sell.

Sad....

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Jeff, I didn't see the interview so thank you for posting the link, I'd like to watch it.  I just saw another expert on TV predicting that by Fall we'd be out of this mess we're in.  I hate to be doubtful BUT.............

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I watched the interview.  I didn't know anything about Bernanke's roots.  Kind of seemed humble. 

 There was kind of a scared quiver in his voice.  Kind of like when someone is trying to say things are going to be OK but they really know that things will get much worse. Maybe he might want to tell the truth but he is being forced to tell a cover story.   That's just my paranoid thinking.

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Jeff, I saw the interview and my first thought was "wow, somebody's finally saying something positive for a change". I don't understand it as well as you do but I do see how the new President seems to try new things and his buddies that controll Congress, Ms Pelosi, have their own agenda. When will they learn how to get things done??

7:05am • #13

I enjoyed your post. My take on the whole thing... An act of desperation. Our government was left holding the tab for the big party that's been taking place on Wall Street for the last few years.  The jumbo bonuses are a good indicator of past rewards!! 

We all knew it was coming, couldn't understand how it could go on, and abruptly found out that it couldn't. Who knows if the banks will ever pay back Uncle Sam.  Probably not in the current CEOS' lifetimes. It can't all be blamed on the Clinton administration though.  I've seen many homes in the most desirable areas in foreclosure.

Who knows when this mess will begin to turn around.  As for my 200 1/2 account, it won't be back by 2011!  I don't expect that my husband's business will either. It is scarey to think just how much worse our economy could have gotten without this bailout!?!

 

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Jeff, I did see the interview and thought that his words were "measured." He didn't really speak his mind and I don't think that he can, in his position. Entire markets rise and fall on the nuances of this man's words. How could he possibly be candid on 60 Minutes.

I know it sounds cynical, but I think it was just an attempt by the current administration to try and calm fears by trotting out the "big guns." Rich

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Jeff,

Good luck trying to find him...that would be a classic.

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Jeff, Thanks for posting as I had not seen it.

"I just think Mr. Bernanke skated around several questions with answers that were very vague and weak"

That seems to be the blanket statement that surrounds every politician and/or public official these days.

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I think next year at this time things will be better.  No scientific reason for this, just it seems when change is in the air, I start hearing and reading things that indicate that change is coming.  Little things like shrinking inventories, people chosing to buy over renting and sudden urge from buyers to buy now.   Maybe this is only occuring in my area, but it is happening.

This happened on the way down as well.  Despite the fact that NAR told me there was no bubble, to many other little things, indicated there was a bubble and it was going to burst.

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Hi Jeff -- I don't think anyone has a clue on how to fix it, and throwing trillions at a problem with little accountability is irresponsible, just as many financial institutions, regulators and individuals were in creating this mess.  I have chosen to live within my means and I have stresses, but I would wager that I am helping others with my tax dollars more than they are helping me.

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Great post Jeff -  and you brought out a lot of comments from my fellow Marylanders.....

As a mortgage banker of 17+ years I can tell you this. Every single step they have made to make mortgages easier to get has not worked. Every single step. Those billions are nothing but smoke and mirrors.

It is harder today than last year, last month and even last week to qualify for a mortgage. Most investors will not even look at any score under 620 now. Price hits start at 760 with many investors. 760!!!  Holy crap, Two years ago 580 got you 100% financing.Today, god forbid your loan to value is over 80% or if you are attempting to get cash out. And by the way, I am certain everyone now knows that FHA can only go to 85% cash out.....   For those of you who waited for rates to drop a bit more -  WE TOLD YOU NOT TO WAIT!

The new programs look awesome with refinancing up to 105% with no credit scores - but wait a minute! No credit score required BUT there are credit score pricing adjustments??? I am telling more and more people no every day. I am no longer just turning down owners of the row houses in the inner city or even the middle class in the suburbs but I am now turning down the very affluent.

Jumbo and super jumbo mortgages are very difficult to find or qualify for. In addition, banks who us taxpayers rescued and continue to bail out, are still allowed to charged outrageous interest rates and fees on credit cards. Collectors from mortgage lenders now start calling at one day late not the thirty days the major credit bureaus consider late. Yes, the same banks that the American people bailed out continue to beat us American citizens up!

So Mr Bernanke and President Obama and Mr Geither and all you full of sh*t politicians, when you take the blinders off and realize that you have done nothing to help the American people. When you finally see that citizens who pay their bills on time yet get no relief as opposed to people who are down on their mortgages - when these people start refusing to pay their bills and we sink into a massive depression. When political unrest and mass protests, which are occuring all over the world and in the US but the media is electing to not cover this yet, starts getting noticed. Maybe then we can stop bailing out big business and start offering some solid help to our citizens.

I own a mortgage shop. I am a small business owner. Loans are NOT easier to get now. I can tell you that for a fact. I can also tell you that banks have reduced my credit limits on credit cards and business lines of credit NOT because i don't pay on time, because I always pay on time. I have called several banks and when pressed customer service reps crumble I have been told your credit limit was lowered because you are in the mortgage business. Lowered lines means less available credit means more utilized credit means lower scores means sorry buddy, you don't qualify for a loan. And this is happening to people every single day accross America. It makes me so sick I feel like personally defaulting on all my credit obligations - after all, the big banks get away with it.

And for my Maryland neighbor above Brien, I have no clue how you can say things are turning around in Maryland. Many people have adopted the rule that renting makes much more financial sense than purchasing. How can any realtor or mortgage banker on Active Rain say things are turning around? I see friends and associates closing their doors every single day. Until credit loosens up and banks are FORCED to make loans for mortgages and to businesses we will remain in a downturn. A spiral downturn.

Belonger, I have known you a while now and you are the proponent of positive vibes. I have never heard a doom and gloom word out of you. You are the FHA expert ( and rightfully so ) Jeff, if you are scared people better frickin take notice!!!!!!

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FRED aka OMEGA..... . as I mentioned in a comment, you can sound humble and genuine, but also fake it. Yes, I actually think he was genuine, but that his hands were tied. And 60 minutes should have known this. So was it a smoke screen?  But I agree, for Bernanke, it's a no win situation.  thanks

LAURA..... . yes, I am sure many are still scared...  but I was more scared after his interview because not only didn't he tell me anything new, but some of his responses seemed like excuses.  Common sense excuses that should have been looked into over a decade ago and certainly when he stepped into his position.

 

MISSY...... . here is why I might sound gloomy in my statement that I don't see a recovery until at least 2011. Mr. Bernanke stated this..."You don't get a sustained economic recovery as long as the financial system is in crisis."

So... I don't see us recovering from this financial mess this year, so how could we recover. Does he really think we'll recover in 9 months?  What, after maybe dumping another 700 billion into bailouts and another stimulus package?

The banks would start lending money now, but they need investors to buy these mortgages. Sure, the gov't is buying the MBS's, but that confidence helps keep rates down. It doesn't necessarily make investors confident to buy these mortgages. The gov't was hoping this would happen, but I don't see it. I just think the word "hope" has been tainted because it was overused by one person in general. Just my .02.

But yes, the condo market has crashed, both on the conventional side of things and on the FHA side. Not sure how to stabalize that, because there is a huge risk to the lenders when it comes to the condo associations. So many of them are going under, bankrupct, or don't have the funds on the books to meet specific guidelines. This is the main reason why investors won't do these loans. Yes, it's sad, but can you blame them? 

 

CAROLE..... .  let me know what you think of the interview after you watch it. In regards to experts...??  There will also be those that claim they are experts that are on one side or the other side of the fence. I have been semi joking about this the last 2 years, saying anyone calling themselves an expert and telling us where the market is heading or where rates are heading are just tossing up a coin, in my opinion.

Trust me, I want to be positive about this.. but who predicted that we would be out of this mess by the fall?  And what was there reasoning's....  thanks

 

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Jeff - Great post!  I, like you am skeptical.  I believe it would've have been a better strategy to let banks fail than to prop them up and spend ourselves broke.  There's probably 2 reasons why this didn't happen.

  1. Political fallout - It's easier to take heat for doing the wrong thing that to take heat for doing nothing.  If they had just let the house of cards collapse, it would have been severe...perhaps much more severe than what we've seen so far, but it quite possibly would be over by now and on the upswing.  Nevertheless, people would be screaming "Why didn't they do something?!"  Wrong looks better than lazy and I don't know if they could've spun lazy out of everyone's minds if they hadn't "done something."
  2. Collapse of FDIC - If nothing had been done, a lot more banks would be belly up and the FDIC is just not capable of covering all of those losses.  That kind of unmitigated loss would no doubt destabalize everything much more than what we've seen, and who knows what kind of fall out would have ensued.  Without the knowledge of what those events would be, I can see why they felt like they had to act.

Although I support the current administration, it sucks to see their hand being forced to a certain path.  Only time will tell how all this will end.  Until then, it's important that we live in the moment and try to take advantage of the opportunities that exist now. 

I tend to see efforts to predict when the financial crisis will be over as largely a waste of time (other than influencing consumer confidence).  Whether it's over at the end of 2009 or not until 2011, I can't stop eating till then.  So we're all forced to make the best of the current circumstances.

Thanks for sharing your insights.

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Jeff - I did see the interview, and it appeared to be a cooperative effort between 60 minutes and the government to calm our fears , like a fireside chat. As one of your commentators said, how candid could the Fed Chairman be on national TV. In the end, truly no one knows what will fix this mess. The last time they figured the government didn't do enough, and that worsened the economic crisis. This time they will try doing the opposite and are running the money presses at full speed. Not very scientific, and it doesn't instill much confidence.

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Jeff- To me his voice indicates he is scared too.  As for his eyes, seem sincere to me, but my guess would be he has ambliopia.   There was some skating and skirting.  But no one in Washington gives straight answers.

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I watched the interview and although he appeared humble and genuine he was very cautious in his words. I think that he is trying to be optimistic because when the he speaks the market responds.

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I think he was optimistic though when he said he sees the recession ending by the end of the year, that's my hope too.

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TIM.... . I will agree, that he did seem very humble when talking about his roots and such. But BINGO.. I heard that same quiver and did he really want to tell it like it is???? Remember in the interview, that he was quoted on something a while back and it was leaked... and the markets overreacted and tanked for the worse.???  Your paranoid thinking was basically the same thinking that I had. I agree, I think he wanted to say more, but couldn't, hence one reason why I wanted to write this post. Thanks for your input and feedback.

 

CONNIE..... .  in my opinion, many people have said something positive... and yes, the gov't comes out with these programs, to make it look like they want to make this work. But you can't tell me that they don't realize that the investor, the lender, has to agree to these terms. They are the ones taking the risk. And I think the gov't knows this, but all they can do is say that we tried. To me, that is called smoke and mirrors.  Just my opinion, but I think I have the goggles to see right through it.

In regards to Pelosi....  I can't even begin to talk about her. Some people disgust me in their thinking and I just wonder what agenda they have and who they are actually looking out for.  thanks

 

DEANNA.... . yes, our gov't was left holding the tab, but that tab has been passed down to us. And the sad part about all of this, when everyone was getting fat and riding high, that's when the gov't should have paid more attention. So I blame a lot of this mess on the gov't. Just as you said, "we all knew this was coming."   Many of us did or had an idea. But do we wait until it's so bad, that there is no other choice?  Hell, that was my attitude in high school. I thought many of us grew out of that.

Lastly, you said it will be beyong 2011 until we recover. And I semi agree with you. But I am seeing changes in some areas. One thing that I won't agree with you on is that it would have been a lot worse if it wasn't for the bailouts. The bailouts just took place and won't happen that quickly, at least in my opinion. Again, I think another smoke screen by yours truly, the gov't. How can they predict how quickly that it will help, when they couldn't make simpler predictions. This market is erratic and they know this. They are just trying to be positive... or maybe they just talk out there arse... either way, many of us know better and I am not falling for it.  thanks for your feedback.

 

RICHARD.... .  I agree 110%, that he can't speak his mind, which scares me. Hence why I would love to interview him. He knows more than what he is saying and as Tim Maitaski mentioned, you could hear a quiver in his voice.  hhhhmmmmm   It wasn't of excitement, I can tell you that much. He wanted to tell us something, but he couldn't.  And he even mentioned in the interview, that when something did get leaked that he stated, the markets went south. That is how powerful his words are....  so again, I agree that it was a method to try and calm fears. But my parents weren't fooled and they aren't in the real estate or financial market....  hhhmmm   I need to go back and see if there were more comments on that video now.

NEAL..... .   lol... well, I think I could find him, but the question would be, could I even get near him.  lol  And yes, I think it would be interesting, because I have some direct questions that need to be asked... thanks

BARB..... . yes it does and it irks the hell out of me. Give me the real scoop. The fluff pisses me off more when I have a good grasp of something. If my clients want reality from me and the gov't wants to enforce this with regulations, then I should deserve the same from the gov't.  thanks for stopping by.

 

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Jeff, I just saw parts of this and appreciate your review and thoughts.  It is scary stuff!

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Jeff: I agree with you. I don't think we're out of the woods yet. It's interesting that alot of viewers felt that Bernanke was lobbed softball questions. I thought about that and agree. Our system isn't perfect and I believe we're paying a high price for all the errors committed over the past few years. I believe full recovery won't start until next year at the earliest. I also agree with Bernanke. When the banks can stand on their own two feet that will signal the beginning. Have a great day!

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Your post is right on.  There are too many miscommunications happening in the political climate and it's leaving business and consumers stranded.

 

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Amen  Brother!  Preach it!

"Food for thought?   How about slight change and dumping some money into the economy. And then letting the market work itself out... ???"

I absolutely agree.  Do they think we won't spend it if we have it?  Of course not!  It's the trickle up theory.  How about giving each American the $319,000 equivalent they're giving in bailout money directly to the people and see how fast the economy turns around?

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Hello Jeff,

I watched the interview and I thought he was being held back as well. I think 60 minutes tried to make it a feel good story for Mr. Bernanke, and didn't really do anything to help the American people. Seems as though they wanted us to feel sorry for him....What About US???? Great post, thank you for some open minded thought provoking literature.

-Lisa

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Jeff, this topic certainly is one that is getting a lot of discussion and comments. Thanks for you input.

I'm not sure that fear is the right place to go. Fear is what leads to the reactions that have made the situation worse.

As for banks and lending: I have a lot to say about that! Maybe, I can add a blog or two -- after I develop my "book" on Houses and Water. But just a couple of thoughts:

It seems the Federal government has all but insured the loans. How can the banks lose at that.

The Feds have given huge sums of money to the banks specifically for lending. And what happened: loan criteria are so restrictive, someone with a credit score of 850 and wads of cash in the bank can't get a loan! And, that's for residential. Don't even think about a commercial loan.

Oh. And the bank mucky-mucks are taking huge bonuses for failing banks .... what's that about?

The bank deregulation mess started back in the 80's under Reagan. That's where some of the important safeguards put in place after the depression were lifted. Hindsight tells us that was the wrong way to go.

 

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Jeff, it would be so nice to believe that anyone up there "on the hill" was listening to those of us who are living this issue on a daily basis. I too could use a little more "cake"

11:05am • #35

Awesome post Jeff.  Thanks for taking the time to write this.  I am learning so much.  Talk about a need for "We the People" to keep networking a and sharing ideas, thoughts, and concerns.  Thank God for the Internet and social networking site like Active Rain!

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Jeff,

This is a really great post.  I did not see the interview but I will take a look at it.

The argument that I continue to make is that a financial market recovery hinges on a housing market recovery.  This means stimulating demand, absorbing the excess inventory, and stopping the decline in home values.

I don't see how the financial markets, the banks, or the credit markets can recovery during a housing depression.

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his interview was pretty darn vanilla but I expected it to be. Could he really shout fire in a crowded theatre.  There is a reality that needs to be faced but nobody has the stomache for it, so we will burden our children and our childrens, children with massive amounts of debt.

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Jeff - The whole thing is Orwellian.  Everything gets sugar-coated, there is no hard-hitting reporting, the information we do get has been massaged beyond belief and we are made to feel "un-American" if we question what is going on.  There is so much emphasis on the so-called Consumer Confidence Index that we can't get a fix on the realities of the economy.

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Throwing money at problems does not solve problems.  We have a fundamental flaw in our liberal approach of "everyone should be a homeonwer".  Although this sounds good it is not practical.  Tight lending requirements, lending to only qualified people with 20% down payments is the a step in the right direction.  I know it is not popular, but getting back to basic fundamentals that worked for decades is the right thing to do.

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BREIN..... . hey, it's to be positive, to think positive, and to feel positive. But I need a lot more than just the feeling and just because inventory is shrinking. Those are good signs, but it won't be the answer. We will still have a very high unemployment, which will keep us hurting in many ways. In my opinion, the real estate market is not 100% of our troubles. Yes, it's a large problem, but there are many other issues that we need to keep focused on. Just my opinion though. I would love to be wrong, but I see a recovery by mid to late 2011. And again, we would then need to define recovery.  thanks

CHRIS... . I agree 110%... I don't think too many people have an idea on how to fix it. So many, even Obama, uses statements as expert and the best economists in the world.  That doesn't mean much to me.. that is just fluff. Who said these were the worlds best?  Because they agree with Obama?  It's great that you are living within your means. Many are still not and taking that risk. And yes, I think many of us will be paying not only for ourselves, but for others as well.  thanks

LEWIS.... .  wow, your comment turned out to be a blog...  ;o)  Seriously, thanks for the detailed and in depth comment. I want to reply to your comment alone, but I will have to do that tonight. Actually meeting Jennifer Allan and Chris & Stephanie Somers... and a few others and I am running late.  Overall, thanks for the kudos and I will reply later.  thanks

 

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Jeff I am in the same camp as you. I doubt it will be anytime soon before things get back to normal. I think 2011 is a good guess.

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Jeff, I watch news, listen to NPR and read about this every day and yet I honestly still can't explain it to my clients.  My gut is in agreement with you and Bill above...2011 we may start seeing some equity growth but that is just a guess!  The scariest thing is to watch someone like Jon Stewart do a dig at all of the fianancial pundits showing how many times they were wrong over the past few years.   Does ANYONE have a grasp of this?

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I tend to agree with others that he was holding back on his responses.  Not sure I would be able to predict a time of when this recovery will really kick in.  Until we see the bottom, I dont see how anyone can predict it.  We can do some things and 'hope' it works.  Ultimately, I agree that decisions were made poorly.  I also agree that we must 'paint' a pretty picture for the consumer.  If the CONSUMER believes we are going in the right direction, then we WILL actually go in the right direction.  When someone yells FIRE we all stop and look.  The media yelled fire for a LONG time and it will take a long time to get the confidence back into the people.  Its interviews like the one with Ben that dance around and give a 'feel good' truth rather than spelling it out.  Sure, its not completely true or accurate, but its what people want to here.  We can throw all sorts of money into the economy, but that does not change how people 'feel' and ultimately people are what make the world go around.  if you dont like a product, you dont buy it.  Some can be said for our economy today.  You think its a bad buy so you do not invest.  Like I said, I cant not predict it.  I wasn't born yesterday and I have not been in mortgages all my life, but I talk with people and they are still worried.  Until that goes away or improves, we will get no where.

4:36pm • #44

I did not get to watch the program, and can tell you the only thing I heard the next day is that the recession will end this year. Therefore I'll assume that this is what most of the population will hear. Not good!

Personally I am sure it is going to take a much longer time.

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Jeff - I missed the interview too.  Thanks so much for posting it and your insights about it.  I just think we are throwing good money after bad if we continue with these bail outs.  Why we are rewarding those who have failed us is beyond me.  I said from the very beginning to let the chips fall where they may and the strong would survive.  Right now it's like a comedy of errors with no set plan in place to strengthen the housing and financial crisis we've been facing.

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Very messy problem we are in.

Too bad we don't have someone in charge who can get us out of it.

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I think we all came from humble beginnings and I really don't care. What is going to take to fix the problem and when is it going to be fixed now that is what I am looking for.

All these PR moves and crap are just that and most Americans fall for it because

  1. It doesn't effect them, because they  are eating at the government trough.
  2. They don't have a clue because they are too young to pay taxes or too old.

I think, which is why I don't work for the government but if you don't pay taxes you shouldn't have the right to vote because that is what congress does. They raise taxes because they don't pay them anyway.

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Jeff, I missed this interview, so thank you for the link.  I will watch it with great interest!

6:57pm • #49

Wow lots of thoughts here so I'll give it a go. Not convinced recovery is coming soon. I was thinking of renting an office now but Brien made me re-think. There is pent up buyers and sometimes when we are so careful with spending we tend to say screw it my situation can't get worse I may as well go for it- spend which I am not so sure is so wise right now. Bernanke didn't really do anything to make me think otherwise. Now Lewis on the other hand I think is an example of Main Street America right now. My loan person is telling me the same thing "turning a lot of people down". Lewis made me think when he said he is now turning down the very affluent and about Jeff never having a doom and gloom attitude  "Jeff, if you are scared people better frickin take notice!!!!!!". Furthermore with all the aid being given I don't see the business practices changing ex:AIG for one. So sit back and use the savings for a rainy day (which is here) or take it and spend. That is the question? On a lighter note was there a dress code? Same suit, same tie. Sorry couldn't get pass this. I find it difficult to hear two sides from carbon copies.

7:04pm • #50

Don't be scared Jeff. Everything will be ok. He's got one thing you don't, a PHD from MIT. But you have one thing he doesn't, an Activerain blog.

Jeff
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Jeff, Great post, I will watch the interview. I have two predictions for the next thirty days....changes to "mark to market" accounting for mortgage backed securities and a reinstatement of the "uptick rule" for selling shares "short".

I think these two issues are most to blame for our current situation. After all, why are securities that are colaterallized by mortgages worth pennies on the dollar? Well, currently the answer is: "Because that is what someone is willing to pay for them." and that is pretty good, if your a buyer. If you are a holder or would be seller, you might be more pursuaded towards the idea that the security is worth "at least as much as the net present value of the payments, less a premium for the associated risk of foreclosure". This is especially true for a holder as opposed to a seller of such securities. The only reason mark to market may not get changed is the "fairness factor" as in, "well, what about all of the writedowns that have already happened". This is a conundrum, I believe that this should change.

As far as the uptick rule, the repeal of this law in 2004 is generally responsible for the exceedingly sharp declines in securties over the past year. With the rule in place, the decline of 401k's/IRA's/Etc. would have been far less. It seems like a no brainer to put this one back in.

I think that Benny's jitters are mainly from the idea that the cookie jar has been raided and the kids are still hungry.

Best,

K

7:28pm • #52

Hello Jeff, yes I sat and watched every minute of the Interview. I had a feeling that this whole thing was being done to Boost the Stock market. Gee I think I was right..I don't know what will come of all this in the next few months. But one thing I am sure of is, Interest Rates will be going up (We need to pay for all this) and People will need to learn to save once they get out of the mess they are in. I am taking every extra penny I Have and Putting it into short term CD's. I know I will be making money when this mess is over. If people would of saved instead of spending we would all be better off and Not only the People but also the Corp. of this country.  Personally I felt the Interview was all Staged... He is a smart man I give you that, but it will take more than that to get us out of this crisis..  Good Luck to us all in the next few years.. Paula

7:44pm • #53

Just a thought - were you a paticipant in the events that led to the "mess"? I dealt with many lenders who qualified people with the "in a yr or two we'll refi...." disclaimer.  You are right YOU can't have your cake and eat it too.

Denise
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I question the same things and am horrified at what I see Bernanke doing.  I belive that he and Geighner believe you can just throw a lot of money and the situation and shout "go", and it will restart the lending.  Well if many people are loosing jobs, have declining credit scores, banks are bumbling short sales and adding fuel to the declining house prices driving more people into an up side down position, they had better get ready to throw  a considerable amount more towards the problem AGAIN next year when we have a newer and larger crop of properties labelled "toxic assets".  I've never like that phrase-- they are not toxic they are just over-mortgaged. 

I say if and until the priority is on incenting and providing means for homeowners to buy homes, and other mechanisms to stem the slide we will not be at START.  If they had offered a $15,000 home owner tax credit when this started we wouldn't be in such a mess.   If we continue focus first on flooding money into the institutions, we will be treating the symptom and not the cause.  Our system is so ill we must treat both the symptom AND the cause.  However, if our priorites are out of line, the entire financial system will crumble, until we get them in order.

I liked what you said about his sincerity.  It probably is true.  I just think he suffers from what we all do-- that we see things only from our narrow world.  He is a financial economist, probably a genius at that--- but he isnt' a real estate economist or he would be focusing on that system first not just pouring money into the banks. 

Banks by the way, who are now operating in even more detrimental fashion as they have realized that they can nationalize their debt and keep their profit without a modicum of accountability.

 

 

   

 

 

 

 

2:25am • #55

THE HARD FACTS NOBODY KNOWS ABOUT The Federal Reserve and the National Debt.

FACT#1. The Federal Reserve is a private corporation, owned and controlled
mostly by foreign bankers.

FACT#2. How the Federal Reserve banks work (using a 10% reserve
requirement).

  1. F.R. "creates" $1,000,000 worth of "debt certificates" with no assets
behind the creation, just the "OK" of Congress, and distributes it to banks.
  2. The bank "Holds" the 10% reserve as operating capital ($100,000) and
loans the rest out at 10% interest.
  3. The bank pockets $90,000 in interest, and accepts the $900,000 back as
a deposit.
  4. The bank retains 10% of the $900,000 deposit as a reserve, and loans
out the $810,000 at 10% interest.
  5. The process is repeated over and over, with "hard" assets pledged as
collateral for these "loans". Thus, it starts with "no money" and ends up
with houses, cars, land, silver, gold...real assets...and all it took was
some ink, some paper, and the cooperation of Congress.

FACT#3. The BIRTH of money #1...Congress authorizes the F.R. to purchase U.
S. Notes from the U.S. Bureau of Engraving for 2.5 cents per bill (no
difference between $1 and $1000 bills). The F.R. then issues an equal amount
of "debt certificate" Federal Reserve Notes which they use to purchase U.S.
Treasury Bonds. Taxpayers are, supposedly, obligated to pay off these bonds
at FULL FACE VALUE, plus the debt of the original currency purchased at 2.5
cents per bill!

FACT#4. The BIRTH of money #2...All credit is hypothecated upon the faith
and worthiness of the "United States". Congress authorizes various
corporations to extend the credit of the United States (as a privilege, not
a right) to finance mortgages and other types of credit. You and I could not
set up shop to extend credit to others, except we be licensed and approved
by the government. Thus, it is not the mortgage company, with whom you sign
a contract, who extends you credit...they are only an "agent"... it is the
United States who is the party with standing, and the only entity which can
sue or foreclose for breech of the contract. BET YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT! Then
there is the credit contract itself...a fraud perpetrated upon the buyer
every time. It is another means of "creation" of money. There is no "money"
exchanged in the mortgage transaction. It is a book entry made by the
"agent" which "monetizes" the value of the real thing, the property
involved. No contract is valid except both parties bring something of value,
called "consideration", to seal the contract. You are bringing the property,
and the promise of future payments...they bring nothing but the ability to
create credit...a congressional "okie-dokie"...to the contract. Thus the
government fraudulently claims superior ownership rights to the property
involved, and the ability to charge the "tenant" rent (called property
taxes, bet U thought U owned that property, right?) for the privilege of
using paper credit.

FACT#5. The taxes paid by Americans never provide ANY services to our
country...all collected income tax money goes DIRECTLY to the F.R. Board
(check the back of ANY check sent to the IRS...it is true).

FACT #6. All U. S currency is "Federal Reserve Notes" of debt, owed to the
Federal Reserve, and is borrowed into existence. How can you pay the debt
when you have to "borrow" the currency to pay the debt, FROM THE GUYS YOU
ALREADY OWE? It is like paying off your VISA card using THE SAME VISA
CARD...the interest just keeps growing, and no principal is ever paid! It is
a ponzi scheme....a scam...and America is the mark!

Thus, the national debt can never be repaid. It is not meant to be repaid.
It is meant to bring Americans to ruin without bloodshed. It is the legal
takeover of the country, piece-by-piece, and the voluntary enslaving of the
sovereign people, who will ULTIMATELY be asked to accept the demise of the
Constitution, and their sovereign status under that Constitution, to become
"subjects" of the benevolent ruling class.

It is time that "we" ended the Federal Reserve.

7:05am • #56

Jeff-you are right to be concerned. Since we are off the Gold Standard, our currency has no objective value. It is based strictly on our productiveness as a nation. The fed is just like the Bank in Monopoly. The rules of the game say that the bank never runs out of money because they can simply issue more on ordinary slips of paper.

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Not using our tax dollars for the bail out??? what a lie that is.  the money is being borrowed... look at the record treasury auctions.... where is the interest payment coming from?  US of course! 

The big problem is the Government keeps saying one thing and doing the opposite.  support mortgage markets, but step back and stop buying MBS...

Want rates to go lower, yet every action they take causese rates to climb.

Vow no pork.. yet the recovery bill is riddled with pork and not enough Beef. 

We all know that there is more than enough cash to lend on the retail level for home owners/buyers to get mortgages. The problem is that banks are severely restricting corporate credit lines and that is stalling business. Once they figure out what is on their balance sheets and are sure they are covered they will stop hoarding cash.  Most banks have the cash. They are just afraid of what "bad" may be left on their books.

 

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LEWIS.... .  wow, thanks for this in depth response. Yes, I agree, almost every single step to make mortgages easy has not worked. Sad, but yet so true. Someone mentioned in a comment that they should give each of us $300,000...  now that would jump start the economy in my opinion. But yes, many of us will agree that there are a lot of smoke and mirrors. \

I will say this, I am not denying many, because FHA is still good if you have the credit scores. I think what is hurting your market are jumbo loans, because of the values out by you. But maybe many aren't calling me now, because they know that their credit scores are low. But they should still be calling, to get a professional to help them with their credit now, not later.

In regards to the 105% financing, you and I have talked about this.  Again, smoke and mirrors with this one. What lenders are going to buy these?  No credit scores?  High LTV's?  What about the MI companies that are even restricting 95% ltv's in many areas.

 

In regards to the banks that can charge high interest rates on credit cards, yet the gov't keeps an eye when it comes to mortgages. I agree with you, why not regulate the credit card companies. Especially the small print that says that they can change the terms on you. Ouch...

Overall, you make some excellent points. You are feeling it from all sides, because not only are you a mortgage broker, but a small owner. They talk about helping the small business, but where???  Which ones??? And yes, the media isn't covering this and I don't see them covering this.

Again, thanks for the detailed comment and for bringing up many issues that should be on the front lines and not tucked away on a cocktail napkin for small talk.  And thanks for the kudos...

 

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JASON..... . I agree, they might get more heat if they didn't do anything. But with all those great minds on Capital Hill, well, so we think...  they can't come up with anything better? 

In regards to the current administration?  Hands being forced or not, I plead the 5th on commenting on that one.  ;o)  But overall, we do need to take advantage of what is available and use it to the best of our ability. Thanks for the polite compliment and for your input.

MICHAEL.... . I don't have any more confidence than prior, after listening to that interview. And U understand that Mr. Bernanke couldn't say much, because it would have affected the stock market. But you can see and hear the fear in his eyes and voice throughout the interview. That at least tells me that he can't really lie, just skate around the issues.

TAMMY.... . lol... I just stated the same to Michael above.  And my mom said of the same things.  And yes, why should we think that it would be any differently, just as those in D.C. that never give us straight answers.

DARRELL aka Integrity..... . he was very cautious with his words and many of us have stated the same, that he had to be careful because markets do respond off his comments... thanks

 

KEVIN & MONICA..... .  I just don't see how he can see that he hopes that he prays the recession will be over by the end of this year. Especially since he made this statement..."You don't get a sustained economic recovery as long as the financial system is in crisis."

How is the recession going to be over if the crisis will still be lingering. Does he know something that we don't?

 

ANN..... . yes it is scary stuff.  And my pleasure.... thanks for stopping by.

 

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19
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So the realtors are scared and unhappy - but the car dealers must be woo-hoo'ing.  There's a noticeable surge of brand-new Hummers and luxury cars around here. I guess there will be plenty of complainers to interview when gas prices hit $4 per gallon again.  We have such short memories.

12:41am • #61
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22

Perthaps the 1st step to correcting the national financal crisis to to go back in time and hold responsible ALL THOSE MORTGAGE ORIGINATORS AND BUILDERS who inflated the price of houses as to dump on excessive fees!

Let start taking back il gotten property and wealth from those who contributed HEAVILY!

 

and by the way IS CONTINUING!

10:42am • #62
MAR
24

Jeff,

I am not sure why does everyone has to be so negative. This crisis did not happen because of the few bad mortgages. It happened because of the credit swap AND because we keep hearing negative news from everyone. You hear everyday in the news that borrowers can not get loans. You do FHA Loans, You tell me if a borrower with less than 600 credit score can not get a loan? I can still show you companies where you can get 100% financing. It was five states which experinece large problems with Forclosures. Media started gloryfying that the whole country is in forclosure and no one can get a loan. What do you think a regular person will do when they hear these news. THEY STOPPED. They stopped spending. period. That is having the RIPPLE effect.

 

PLEASE BE POSITIVE. IT IS ALL OF US WHO CAN GET OUT OF THIS RECESSION. ENOURAGE PEOPLE THAT THEY CAN STILL BUY HOMES. THEY CAN STILL GET LOANS. PLEASE DONT BE NEGATIVE

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