I apologize and know I mentioned that I wouldn't be posting here anymore as my "journey" in buying and selling a home is near completion, however the 60 Minutes segment last night really got some good "water cooler" discussion at work today and got me thinking. (See my previous post...).

Once again, let me clarify this...I am not a realtor. I am not an advocate for the real estate industry. I do not have any relatives, friends, etc who work in the real estate industry in any way, shape or form. I am simply a consumer who has recently been involved in the sale and purchase of a home. As I've said before, I've learned a lot about the industry during my tenure on AR and have dug deep to find the information I am looking for and thus have switched gears in regards to my opinions. I've always learned that what's fair is fair and this is a great conduit to speak your opinion. With that being said, I think the 60 Minutes segment brought to life a subject bigger than just commission percentages and/or discount brokers using the Internet to attract a new type of consumer.

As I said in my previous post, the segment was poorly done and way too one sided. However, with all that happened during the segment, RedFin did one thing right: They used the often misinformed and negative perception that a majority of consumers have about the real estate industry to their advantage. Besides getting huge attention to their business and website, they also may have used that negative perception to attract future clients and also continue to sway the consumers opinion's that selling/buying a home is as easy as baking a cake and you can save thousands of dollars not using a realtor. It also didn't help that the agent they used to provide a positive connotation to the industry was by far the worst person you could have chosen. From a consumer's point-of-view, I can just see how someone would watch the segment and walk away saying "I'm going to do this myself and save thousands of dollars."

Okay, I'm not going down that road. I think all realtors and knowledgeable consumers know this is hardly the fact. However, if you were to poll viewers, what would you think they'd say about the segment and how it reflected the industry? Personally, I would think it would closely match the last sentence in the paragraph above.


Where am I going with this? Well, in my opinion, maybe its time that the industry comes together to promote the positives regarding real estate. While the industry is primarily individual-based, maybe its time to unite and change the skepticism of the general public. Unions do this all the time. On a job site, if there is a non-union employee, the first thing the union does it put a 20 foot inflatable rat smoking a cigar outside the limits of the site. Union members begin to picket and march up and down the block stating their cause. While it may be tacky and bold, it's what non-construction people see everyday and wonder who is in the right. The union takes the time to promote their cause and thus gains (in some ways) the popularity vote. In order not to shut down the job, the contractor usually folds and the union wins (in some cases).

Today, you rarely see any real estate promotion (in a group manner) promoting the industry, its benefits in using a realtor, and its stance on morals. Instead, you commonly see ads on shopping carts, billboards, and flyers representing a brokerage office or an individual realtor. Why not come together and start a campaign that doesn't promote an individual or brokerage, but instead promotes the industry itself?

Driving around Chicago, you'll see a few billboards promoting a certain industry, group, coalition, society, association, etc. Unfortunately, I've never seen one regarding real estate.

Here's an example: My parents bought their first home in 1984 (in Chicago's Edison Park neighborhood) for a modest $52,000. Back then, they needed 20 percent down and I believe the interest rates were around 10 percent or so. The one thing I remember about the whole transaction was the realtor my parents used. Her name was Barb and she wore the gold Century 21 jacket on several occasions. I don't remember much, but I remember how kind, professional and cordial she was anytime she was around. She brought coffee and juice anytime she came over before taking us on showings and often "kept an eye" on us when my parents wanted to really focus on looking at a certain house. Everyone in the neighborhood knew, trusted, and referred her for any real estate transaction. I don't remember (on any occasion) my parents ever having a negative perception regarding real estate. Everything went fine and we were in our new house in no time.

Today though, it seems as if there are a slew of realtors out there and finding one is as easy typing a query in Google or looking down in your shopping cart at the grocery store. In time, you'll have about 20 agents calling you trying to tell you that they are simply the best agent out there and you'd be a fool not to go with them. You sign with them and then things start to go downhill. Of course, there are always a few bad apples in the bushel of good ones; however, this has seemingly been the premise consumers have used to give the industry a bad name.

It's just my opinion, but maybe its time this industry unites and starts a campaign to overhaul this negative perception and get more consumers to understand the true facets and positive results a realtor can bring to the equation.

In my research about real estate, I was bombarded with about a million individual realtor websites all promoting themselves, what they do and why they are the best. I completely understand this, however, nothing exemplifying the benefits of using a realtor from a group consensus. Then I found ActiveRain, did a couple blog posts, communicated with a few realtors and wow, my opinion changed overnight. I thought it was odd that the number of members were so low considering the amount of realtors in the profession. What better place to unite and provide knowledgeable insight to other professionals AND consumers?

I'm not saying that realtors need to spend MORE money on marketing than they already do, but maybe its time to get together as a group and force associations such as NAR to focus on public perceptions and marketing instead of just serving paying members. Besides, isn't this what you pay for?

While writing this, I thought of something that could possibly be used in every major city market. A billboard with the following:

"And you thought real estate was just about a sign, MLS, and commissions...Go to http://www.activerain.com/ for more information and see what's real about real estate..."

Tacky, hokey (use any adjective you wish) and expensive, however, it might be just the right formula for giving a good business a better name in today's era. Besides, how much does the CEO of NAR make anyways? I'm sure they could find funds to generate such a campaign to better serve their members in terms of public interest.

Just my two cents, would love to hear your feed back (sorry for the long post:)

 

 

39 Comments on Is ActiveRain the Best Advocate For Real Estate?

MAY
14
2007
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We can all agree on one thing---the show was one-sided.  I can't tell you how many people were talking about it today.  Hope NAR does a formal response.
9:44pm • #1
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There are few unions here and would not like any. You just have to look at GM and Ford to see where they are going. Just my view on that. Realtors are a very independent bunch. We all run our own bussiness and a  small businesses that pay a lot of taxes. We work hard for our clients, spend countless hours learning the craft, plus being great advocates of our areas and home ownership. Louisiana is one of the poorer states in the country so it will be a while before redfish gets down here. Our commission is closer to 2% on a sale. We are never guarenteed a commission. In the end Real Estate will tend to be more local as these national trends come and go. Corp employees just will not put in the time over time. Things will change and individuals are far more nimble and quick to change. Some random thoughts
9:57pm • #2
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I have to say that I absolutely love your post.  I truly appreciate you writing this as a consumer and I am so glad to hear your point of view.  Thank you.

I totally agree with what you have said here.  I have posted about this topic as well as a few others that I respect on this site.  Thank you for taking time to write this.  I am glad that you were able to use this site in your journey and best wishes with your new home.

10:05pm • #3
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Well, unions could screw up our industry like they have the others. Maybe this is how we can get our agency work done overseas after the union organize and get us up in commissions.

Just kidding. I lost track of this blog after 500 words.

10:15pm • #4
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Don/Eric, my usage of unions was simply symbolic of a group of professionals who always seem to get their feathers ruffled over majour and even minour issues and come together as a group to promote their cause.. I would think the 60 Minutes segment was pretty majour and was just wondering if it was time that the industry to came together to promote the intangible benefits they provide so all consumers understand.

Don-500 words? How about a listing contract or sales contract? Even worse, how about all the paperwork at a closing? :) Sorry for the long post...just my two cents...

10:21pm • #5
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Maybe you haven't seen or heard the feelgood ads NAR has been running on radio and tv?  I didn't see sixty minutes, but as far as I am concerned, until we tighten up our standards, we are simply asking for bad press.
10:38pm • #6
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I agree...we just need to get rid of the "sluts...can I say sluts?" and criminals in our industry so that the bar is raised to one of serving our clients with integrity.  That's what matters....60 minutes was jaded though.
10:43pm • #7
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Whitcomb, well posted and blogged.

You make excellent points regarding our focus as a "group" and it clearly points to continued education and training.  My cousin, an agent is Texas, warned me about the business.  She was right.  ANYBODY can get a license, and most real estate brokerages use the "throw 'em up against the ceiling, if they stick GREAT.  If the don't, ah well.  That is really no great bones for the broker, however the individual lives affected (the agents and their clients) it is a different story.

Activerain helps create a level playing field where we can all share ideas, and learn (if we are open-minded and teachable). Your comments are very encouraging, leaving me with a sense of mission and purpose.

 

Blessings to you.

Keith

10:46pm • #8
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Look at that Whitecomb, your's is a featured post! Thanks for joining us here on your journey. There are indeed good apples in a bunch, and the best reside here on Active Rain. This is not a personal plug, but a collective plug for all who share here. Best to you!
10:57pm • #9

Well thought out post.

The biggest problem the industry has is not lack of a unified voice, but a lack of unified standards with too low a barrier to entry.  

I have heard more than one fsbo tell me that if their (fill in relative of choice here) can sell a house, so can they. Many times they are right. Redfin would be foolish not to capitalize on that. 

11:09pm • #10
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Stefan, I was unaware that NAR was running ads...at least I haven't heard them in the Chicagoland area, which is amazing seeing that Chicago radio stations only play ads vs. music.

I did see, however, that NAR did post a response on their website..I thought it was well done and provided factual information to the errors in the segment, line by line. I'm surprised that it came so late...

How much do you want to bet that this is a way for 60 Minutes to provide a follow-up segment and thus create some new material for the summer? My limit is 20 bucks :)
11:12pm • #11
Thank you so much for taking the time to write.  Realtors do have a unified voice.  It is NAR (National Association of Realtors).  I believe that they are doing a great job promoting us and the benefits that we provide.  If selling Real Estate was so easy, most people wouldn't drop out by the first year.  All real estate agents aren't Realtors.  Realtors are held to a higher code of ethics. I am so glad that you found active rain to be a valuable resource. 
11:16pm • #12
Responding to 60 Minutes is what they want. People have short memories and will rely more on their own experience anyways. Actions speak louder...
11:17pm • #13
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Bob, I agree with you that RedFin would be foolish not to get involved in this niche. However, and from a consumer's point-of-view, I cannot think of anytime or anything that has been unified in terms of real estate besides AR. The only knowledge I heard about real estate before getting involved in buying/selling a home was the newsletters or "this home just sold" postcards from area agents. It always seems that consumers only take interest in an industry when they are involved in or affected by it, such as buying/selling a home. Thus, they simply disregard the industry and only take in what they hear and see on TV (which almost always is negative).  I know it would be impossible to reach out to every consumer, especially on a national level, but I think it would be appropriate to model some sort of basic marketing campaign to attract the attention (especiall in this market) of those involved in or considering buying/selling a home. RedFin exploited the negative connotation to the industry and it may have consumers think twice before consulting a realtor and doing the process themselves....and then contacting a realtor 90 days later...
11:21pm • #14
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Bob, If you have higher standards, then what would they be? The market is fairly efficient in flushing many realtors out. Being smart will not make you a success in real estate. Performance based would be a better way, it also would have its flaws. Realtors may do a better job than teachers in weeding out the weak links. 
11:23pm • #15

Nice blog. We Realtors can use all the ambassadors we can get. 60 Minutes reported like a tabloid on this subject. I would imagine that they are getting slammed by members of the industry.

The Realtor they interviewed seemed unprepared for that level of questioning. The one who said she got a commission for 4 hours of work was typical give me now I don't want to work for it attitude. I have seen the NAR ads to promoting the use of Realtors. Its a good industry, and one where it takes a lot of hard work to be successful.

Doug Trudeau
11:37pm • #16
Thanks for posting this, I really enjoyed reading it and I hope you continue to share your thoughts and ideas
11:50pm • #17
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I was still waiting for a response to my comment on your previous post...
11:57pm • #18
MAY
15
2007

"It always seems that consumers only take interest in an industry when they are involved in or affected by it"

Absolutely. Which is why they don't know that the largest trade group in the US is NAR. Realtors have more political clout than any other group. Our tax laws are crafted in large part by NAR. They run national ad campaigns. The disconnect exists because real estate, like politics, is local. So the perspective of most people is shaped not by national ad campaigns by NAR or hit pieces from the media, but their own experiences and what they hear from friends and associates. 

"RedFin exploited the negative connotation to the industry"

Unfortunately they can exploit it because there is truth to the negative connotation. Worse, the industry has brought it on themselves. Do you have any idea how hard it is to get rid of an unethical agent? In most areas, a slap on the wrist is the worst it gets. If one does choose to offer services and represent people for less than others, then agents are the first ones to call them "sluts". 

Eric, we see agents all the time that make us look bad. Lying to clients works well for those who do it. The market doesnt get rid of dishonesty as readily as it does inefficiency. 

 

 

12:05am • #19
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Great post!  Unions aside I think your idea of the industry developing a public education campaign is sorely needed.  Hopefully NAR and the bigger companies will step up to the plate on this one!
12:17am • #20
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Hello Grasshopper,

So nice to see you still here among us at Active Rain.  Thank you so much for posting a consumers view point, it is very valuable for you to be here representing the consumer in this situation.  I wish more consumers would come into Active Rain and post freely as you have.

It has been such a pleasure getting to know you a little and to share your home selling and buying experience, I sincerely hope that you stay active at AR for the long haul, your views are always refreshing and your open mind has always been a blessing.  

 

12:36am • #21
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You post is thoughtful and wise.  NAR needs to do many things including marketing our industry to the public.  We need to have stronger rules for entry to the business.  We need to have a universal standard to be able to be a Realtor. 

If we had stronger standards people who wanted to join the industry would have to actually study and learn something. Right now we work on the "revolving door" school of practice where one third of the agents are coming into the business while 1/3 are leaving. The 1/3 that stays are the strong pillars of the industry that have to put up with the parade and the strong aftertaste they leave when they blaze through our business creating a mess.

I say raise the bar and elevate our profession to a higher status.  

kk

p.s. your 500 words plus only scratch the surface. THANKS for taking the time to share your insight with us. 

5:39am • #22
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NAR Public Awareness Campaign

"2007 marks the 10th year that the Public Awareness Campaign has been working on behalf of the National Association of REALTORS®' members to educate and persuade consumers about the value of hiring a REALTOR®. This year, the campaign goes a step further by encouraging consumers to consider real estate as a strong long-term investment and to contact a REALTOR® in their local market with the call to action, "Every market's different, call a REALTOR® today." "

Good Time To Buy

Know How To Sell

Code of Ethics

And Several More

NAR spends millions of dollars annually on public relations campaigns; all designed to demonstrate the value of Realtors.

As a current NAR Director I'm off to Washington D.C. tomorrow to attend our annual mid-year meetings and a visit to our national leaders and representatives to talk about real estate issues.

I expect at our Board of Director's meeting this coming Saturday we'll vote once again to spend more millions of dollars to continue to fund our Public Awareness Campaign.

Active Rain currently has 30,268 members; As of April 30, 2007 NAR had 1,327,307 

Both Active Rain and NAR now have a successful track record for advocating and promoting the real estate industry; NAR has just been at it a bit longer. ;-)

5:40am • #23
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Whitecomb, it's nice to see a post from a member of the public.  Congratulations on your post being featured, and thanks for your support of the real estate industry.  If buying or selling a home were truly as easy as baking a cake, our industry would not be as large as it is (thereby making it an easy target for biased critics like RedFin).

I personally would love to see billboards promoting Active Rain.  My expectation is that once Localism.com is launched, the public will be seeing something very much like that, but online, but under the Localism name. 

6:56am • #24
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Whitecomb, it's nice to see a post from a member of the public.  Congratulations on your post being featured, and thanks for your support of the real estate industry.  If buying or selling a home were truly as easy as baking a cake, our industry would not be as large as it is (thereby making it an easy target for biased critics like RedFin).

I personally would love to see billboards promoting Active Rain.  My expectation is that once Localism.com is launched, the public will be seeing something very much like that, but online, but under the Localism name. 

7:00am • #25

Whitecomb, it's nice to see a post from a member of the public.  Congratulations on your post being featured, and thanks for your support of the real estate industry.  If buying or selling a home were truly as easy as baking a cake, our industry would not be as large as it is (thereby making it an easy target for biased critics like RedFin).

I personally would love to see billboards promoting Active Rain.  My expectation is that once Localism.com is launched, the public will be seeing something very much like that, but online, under the Localism name. 

7:06am • #26
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Very good post. Our industry is affected quite heavily by the consumer's negative perspective of REALTORS(R). The sad part is that their perspective is reality too often. Personally I think we have created this negative perspective by making it too easy to become a REALTOR(R). There are to many folks in our business that are clueless, either because they lack the initiative to learn or they lack proper training and mentoring. But I think that will be changing over the next few years with the more difficult market we are in right now. There will be many REALTORS(R) getting out of the business. Only the strong will survive.

NAR can do all the positive advertising they want but it won't do any good as long as the consumer has to deal with an unqualified, unprofessional REALTOR(R). ActiveRain has an awesome opportunity to change this industry and I am very happy to be a part of it. The cream of the crop hang out here and this is where the public can come and see what it is we really do and the issues we have to deal with on a daily basis.

7:53am • #27
You Get what you pay for!
8:04am • #28
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Good post..I agree we should unite in that way and there are absolutely positvely bad apples operating in our industry and I have worked with a few and they just can't figure how to represent the consumer in a professional manner..but when another company tries to capitalize by manipulating the public and mentions things that they need to refrain from saying...I have to say something instead of leaving false information about our industry.
8:23am • #29

Thanks for your post.  It was well thought out and, obviously, heartfelt.

NAR has been trying hard to promote the industry.  As an industry, we have a very bad reputation with the general public.  I always find that interesting, since virtually everyone I meet/talk to/work with has had a very positive experience using a REALTOR.

 I think a couple of things play in to this:

1) If someone buys/sells  their house FSBO, and the transaction is completed, they might feel like all we do is a waste of time and money.  Just like with everything else in life, sometimes it is easy and sometimes it is hard.  Beleive me, I feel like I earn every penny.  For each transaction that goes quickly and smoothly, you can bet I have 5 that keep me working around the clock. At the end of the year, it usually averages out.

2) There are agents who do not view this as a career, or even as a "calling" (believe me, many of us do).  Their objective is to get the money at the end of the deal. Usually a REALTOR on the other side of the transaction will pick up the slack to get the deal done.

 I hope that you have a Great Experience with your real estate transaction.  Since most of us work on referrals and repeat customers, your agent will be very grateful if you contact them in the future when you, or friends and family, go on to sell!  Good Luck!!!!

Holly Weatherwax
12:40pm • #30
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Thank YouWhitecomb, Thank you so much.  One consumer voice is worth a hundred REALTOR® voices.  It's good to know that we have managed to show our value to you and that you cared enough to speak up.
3:33pm • #31
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I didn't read every single response, but I did see a few that rang true to me.  It is very easy to get a license and once licensed violators get little more than a slap on the wrist.  I think that a minimum standard of care needs to be implemented as well as making it more difficult to be licensed in the first place.  It would also be helpful if agents took marketing classes.  Marketing a property and reducing the price are not the same thing.  At all.
3:39pm • #32

This was discussed at my office this morning and the prevailing thought was it was one-sided.  I mentioned that the agent who was interviewed to represent our industry was like a deer caught in the headlights.  I'd like to give her the benefit of the doubt--her other comments may have been edited out by the producers, she could have been nervous--who knows.  One thing was clear, she didn't give consumers reasons to run out and hire a real estate agent.

Where was NAR on this?  They sent us an e-mail explaining that this segment was a year in the making yet we didn't have representation at all from the organization. Do they think that 60 Minutes will bend backwards to give a balanced presentation?  It's a "gotcha" type of journalism, what was NAR thinking?

Thank you for the post, it's riveting.  Good luck to you and your family.

Yolanda

 

 

Yolanda Hoversten
6:33pm • #33
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What a great post. It's easier to believe the worst in people rather than the best. If something happens, it must have been to another's benefit and not an accident. I doubt anyone will ever overcome this. You simply take the good with the bad!

7:06pm • #34
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Your comments can be applied to any industry and they were very well "spoken" .
8:34pm • #35
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Your thoughts about Active Rain being the best advocate for the real estate industry are a good choice.  This would be a great way for consumers to find a realtor that they want to work with without having to physically go out and interview them.  Tell all of your friends about Active Rain and spread the word that if they want to know the truth about real estate, they should visit this site and not watch 60 minutes.  By the way, 60 Minutes is welcome to join this discussion by setting up a user name and password!
9:47pm • #36
MAY
16
2007
284,484 Points 42 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog
NAR is in desperate need of YOU!  This was brilliant.  I applaud your Billboard and your idea.
5:59am • #37
MAY
17
2007

Great post.  After reading it and several comments after, I watched the 60 minutes segment on their website.  I would have to agree that the uninformed consumer would walk away feeling like they could list and sell their home easily online and save tons of money.  Unfortunately what they don't think about are things like security, time involvement, and advertising expenses (among other things.)

 All I know is that when I'm ready to sell my house I'll be interviewing agents to find one that will best represent me... a process I didn't know existed when I sold my first home many years ago.  I have learned a lot about real estate since becoming a home Stager.  I used to think I had to just choose an agent from a billboard and call them to list my house.  I had no idea that I didn't have to use the first agent I called...  Now, thanks to being more involved in this industry and having sites like ActiveRain for reference, I feel much more confident in hiring the right agent for myself.   It truly is a hiring process.  Something a lot of homeowners may not even realize...

2:33am • #38
JUN
24
2007

I believe that organizations like ActiveRain help to level the playing field from those with much larger advertising budgets.  As many individuals start their real estate search on the internet this site can catch their attention better than our individual self serving websites.  Our individual blogs on this ActiveRain site are our opportunity to show competency about whatever segment of the real estate industry we serve.

Greg Zaccagni  @ www.MortgageAdvisor.info

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