Let's say the owner of a $400,000 home decides to list their home for sale with Redfin (not a possibility in Arizona as of yet, but local readers can substitute the flat-fee listing company of their choice for the example.) Under a 6% commission schedule, the total commission would be $24,000.

The advertised commission cost of a Redfin listing is $3,000. So the seller would be spending $21,000 less on their commission, right? Well, no.

The $3,000 isn't the full commission -- and Redfin knows this. Down in the Frequently Asked Commission is the disclaimer that Redfin recommends paying a 3% commission to the agent bringing a buyer to your home. So rather than a $3,000 commission, the seller actually would be paying $15,000 - the so-called savings are approximately $9,000.

A seller isn't required to pay 3% to a buyers' agent, of course. The seller can offer any amount they choose, all the way down to a single dollar, and still be listed in the MLS per the MLS' rules of cooperation. But the lower the amount offered, the less likely a home will be shown to perspective buyers.

Those damn greedy Realtors, you say. They won't show a home with less than a 3% co-broke? How dare they!

Except ...

Let's also look at a Redfin buyer (again, substitute any local buyer-brokerage utilizing a rebate model.) A Redfin buyer receives a rebate of two-thirds of the buyers' agent fee when they purchase a home. So by purchasing the home with a 2% co-broke rather than a 3% co-broke, the buyer is losing a portion of their own rebate - the rebate drops to $5,060 from $8,040 on a $400,000 home.

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6 Comments on Redfin - The Devil's In the Details

MAY
15
2007
Great point Jonathan.  Too bad 60 Minutes left that simple math out of their report!
5:01pm • #1

With less than 3% to the buyer you state the home is less likely to get interest.

Agents steer you towards big commisions, steer you to over buy homes, steer you to 'their' buddy brokers who get you the neg am 115% LTV, etc..

While not all agents, the word 'professional' doesnt roll off the tongue so easy in the last few years.

Hey you have to make a buck

5:02pm • #2
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I just posted this comment on your other blog.

Great article, I have been interested in RF but haven't had the time to research it since the commercial on Sunday night. Thanks for this effort.

5:07pm • #3
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Not necessarily, Jason. What I left out of the equation (but meant to include) was if you have a buyer who has signed a buyer-broker agreement guaranteeing a certain commission to their agent, they may not want to look at a home with a co-broke less than the agreed upon co-broke because it's coming out of pocket.

I've never shown a home specifically because of a higher co-broker ... in fact, I've offered to rebate what I regard as excess co-brokes being offered by builders to clients.

As for the rest, at the end of the day people make their own decisions. Everyone has to make a buck. Even you, in whatever it is that you do. I don't recommend exotic mortgages. Never have, never will. And as for bigger houses, a $10,000 difference in sales price is an extra $200 in my pocket. Woo-hoo.

That last part is also some of the real estate math conveniently overlooked these days, akin to what John mentioned already. 

5:07pm • #4
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There's no points on my other blog, Jim. :-)

Enter a Technorati search for Redfin and you'll see more than you ever wanted to read. Or more than you really want to read. 

5:09pm • #5
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It will be interesting to see what happens to these buyers agents when things start going wrong with the contract, reports and items they just plain missed because they aren't putting the time into the sale that they should. Wonder how much E and O they carry if any.
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