The details of the Treasuries much anticipated toxic asset plan to "cleanse" the banking system and restore financial stability are now public.  My reaction posted on Twitter as I was reading it.

@timu_matt: Reading the Treasuries new toxic asset plan. Everytime I think they can't get more hell bent on destroying this country they surprise me again.

Yeah, that pretty much sums it up.  In a nutshell the plan revolves around the Treasury and FDIC loaning private investors money to buy the toxic assets from the banks.  These loans would be made at almost no money down, when you combine the Treasury and FDIC incentives these (non-recourse) loans would account for up to 97% of the purchase price.  The treasury is essentially trying to create a whole bunch of private "hedge funds" operating on insane amounts of leverage (33x), overpaying for toxic assets.

Wait, isn't excess leverage one of the main causes of this mess?  At 33x leverage, 3% drop in the value of the assets blows up the investor, but hey the US taxpayer the one taking taking the loss on 97% of it, so who cares.  This scheme basically opens the door for wide scale gambling in the financial system at the taxpayers expense. Now, you want to know the truly sick part?

The biggest gamblers in this system will be the big banks themselves.  They will practically be fighting each other to grossly overpay for each others (and their own) toxic assets. Hey, they make money either way no matter how much they overpay, it's the tax payer on the hook.  Seriously, we might as well pass some new legislation so that any federal taxes we pay go directly into the coffers of the big banks just to formalize the whole arrangement, because that is what we've been doing informally for months now.

Others finance bloggers react (similarly):

Paul Krugman: Despair over financial policy

Calculated Risk: Geithner's Toxic Asset Plan

Naked Capitalism: Private Public Partnership Details Emerging

Karl Denninger: Toxic Assets: Promise, But Also Peril

 

 

21 Comments on The treasuries "toxic asset plan" a massive taxpayer fraud

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Bingo and amen. As you say "it's the tax payer on the hook" and honestly the masses still don't get it that this is tax payer spending, tax payer debt and tax payer futures being compromised. Most seem to think, "well I'm not wealthy so I'm not going to be paying it anyway". Just wait - wait until the full effect of what the current body politic comes around. About six years from now, barring massive redirection, inflation, taxation and regulation will make socialism look like a picnic - then again many of us believe that's what "they" want anyway.

3:56pm • #1
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Agreed.  There is no limit to how much of tax payers' money, present and future that they will not hand over to the banks and Wall Street gangs.  The bank CEOs will be standing in line at the Friday evening coctail parties in Georgetown shaking the hands of Geithner and Bernanke and the various Congressional enabelers who authorize this heist. 

Yet, the home owner can't get any relief if their mortgage balance is more than 105% of market.  But, wait!  It's the home owner's fault for taking a mortgage they couldn't afford.  I have come to despise the word "afford". 

Sadly, we ain't seen nothing yet. 

Geithner wants to keep pouring money down that black hole because otherwise, the public could find our the extent of the derivatives that could and many of which will fail.  Neither Congress nor the Treasury nor the Fed wants the citizenry to know the truth.

Love your posts Matt.  You focus on it like a laser.

 

 

4:31pm • #2
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Matt,

Thanks for writing about this.

I am not sure however how they are going to get funding from the tax payer through Congress for this.  By most accounts it is going to require at least $500 billion to $1 trillion in tax payer funds.  There is not enough TARP funds left to subsidize this.

I would argue that the reason this plan has been taking so long is because there is still uncertainty about how it gets funded.

On a side note, if these assets are indeed so toxic, then why are all of the major banks claiming to be profitable this year?

What a fraud.

4:56pm • #3
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There is one interesting point about this whole thing.  If the governent (US Taxpayer) is putting up almost all the money, and bearing almost all the risk, without any of the upside, why even involve private investors at all?  It simply makes no sense, unless the point really is about funneling more money to private institutions, and not just removing the toxic assets from their books. 

There is no shortage of big buy and hold investors out there sitting on a ton of cash.  Private investment capital to buy these assets is not the problem.  Private equity isn't stupid, they've done their analysis looking at current and projected loan default rates on these various assets.  If the Warren Buffett's of the world really believed that these assets were under valued they'd be feasting on them right now, instead of sitting in cash. 

The Treasury, FED and administrations whole thesis is that there is nothing fundamentally wrong in the banking system and this whole crisis is a confidence problem.

4:59pm • #4
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Do you really think that THEY think there's no problem...or is this a case of double speak at it's best. There are no easy solutions here; my concern is that I don't hear a lot of well reasoned alternatives for major clean up either.  Your thoughts?

BTW...this statement makes one's stomach churn: "The treasury is essentially trying to create a whole bunch of private "hedge funds" operating on insane amounts of leverage (33x), overpaying for toxic assets.

5:09pm • #5
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Lola: I do think a lot of those in charge actually believe that it's mainly a confidence problem and that the solution revolves around simply getting people to "believe" again.  Yes, I think there are some outright crooks up top.  But, I think there are others like Ben Bernanke, that simply are wedded to a thesis that is dead wrong, and so all of their proposed solutions revolve around fixing symptoms not the cause.

5:17pm • #6
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In a word, they lie.

They are looking for cover in the name of private investors.  It is still the tax money that is going to fund the purchasers. 

5:30pm • #7
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Hey Matt,

I think your going to make me cry... :( When does it end? Why are they doing things like this? I think we are watching rome burn with people like this running the country...

-Lisa

5:55pm • #8
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I'm a simple guy... and I know that the first step in fixing something is figuring out what is wrong. 

7:15pm • #9

Good points but I disagree.

I feel that the $8,000 tax credit for 1st. buyers is incredible.

Jorge

7:49pm • #11
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Matt, It just gets worse and worse. I don't understand all of this and not sure I want to. Are they now making up investors beause the SWFs (sovereign wealth funds) pulled out? Does that have anything to do with this?
7:52pm • #12
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Bryant: 

There's always buyers, there is no shortage of cash sitting on the sidelines right now.  The question is price, just like listing a house.

The banks claim these assets are worth more than the market will pay, and continue to value them at an inflated price in level 3 assets where they don't have to take write downs.  The market has done their homework and is calling BS on the pricing, so there is a stand off.  Banks won't sell them because they can't get the price they want and buyers won't buy them because the asking price is too high.  The Treasury/FED/Gov. thesis is that the banks are correct in their pricing and the buyers are simply irrationally scared.  Many of the proposed solutions such as this one, revolve around incentives buyers to overpay for assets.

8:05pm • #13
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Actually the situation is almost exactly like a very similar to the problem many real estate agents around here are running into when dealing with the banks on foreclosed properties.  Banks won't accept the market reality on pricing, and are refusing to respond to perfectly good offeres. 

8:15pm • #14
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Matt, this has gotten so much bigger than I can get my mind around.  I keep wondering when it will end.

9:00pm • #15
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Matt - all of us are watching, listening and turning heads in disbelief! We cannot afford to wait and complain without end...where is our LEADERSHIP? Why is it so quiet on 'the other side'? All this mess looks like perfect storm...coming from the other side of the 'big pond' I never thought that I would witness what is happening and what I escaped from!!

Bo

 

10:01pm • #16

This is outragous!  Can we say term limits and mean it!   What does it take to boot those guys out!

10:24pm • #17
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Matt - I agree with you. This is all a scam to get the taxpayers to pay higher than market value for these assets and then eat the losses. The usual scenario for this kind of 'controlled fraud' is to buy these assets at something close to the bookvalue; hold them for several years until the people who made these overvalued purchase move on; then when there is no one to hold accountable sell them at a loss and claim a qualified success. Geithner's plan of action was very predictable

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Ah!!!  But there is another shoe to drop. 

If they can finally get rid of Mark-To-Market, the banks will be able to price these worthless securities at prices where they'll make money and the government will finance the purchase for new "investors". 

Private investors won't pay book value and banks won't sell them at fair value.  The government figures that they'll just have the tax payer underwrite private investor groups to take this garbage off the banks' books and all will be right with the world again.  It will for the banks to an extent, but it still won't help the home owner with negative equity.  The economy has still lost a huge percentage of personal wealth.  The government will help the banks and the insider investor groups, but not the American home owner who was wiped out in this debacle. 

In the end, the taxpayer is going to pay and pay and pay. 

4:17am • #19
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Let the games begin, the New York Post reports

"Citi and Bank of America have been aggressively buying up Alt-A and ARM mortgage backed securities, sometimes paying more than the going rate of around 30 cents on the dollar."

Instead of trying to offload the toxic stuff from their balance sheet they are buying up as much as they can get from funds right now, in an attempt to flip it back for a massive profit when the Geithner's plan goes into effect.  Disgusting...

8:24pm • #20
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How does a "Toxic Asset" relate to the average home owner?  Would any consumer who is having trouble making their mortgage payment be considered a "Toxic Asset".  Why would all banks not Foreclose on all of them and sell off to anyone willing to purchase them, in this case Uncle Sam?

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