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Are Some Homes Un-SELL-able???

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Real Estate Agent with Alain Pinel REALTORS BRE#00861017

Wow, I am so bummed. For the first time, I am unable to sell a normal listing. This is neither a short sale nor an REO—well, it is a probate and according to the attorney, the court won’t allow more than a 6% commission. This means if I were to lower the price again to a mere $75,000—though not convinced that it would sell at this price—my net commission would be less than $700!!!

 

Since I am now dating my company’s broker, he told the owner and she told me to cancel the listing. The reward isn’t worth the risk to them? Or me?

 

I find all of this difficult to believe for two reasons. First, when I sold real estate in Oregon 10-12 years ago, I sold many condos and land in the $50-70,000 range. My biggest sale was considerably less than $300,000. Despite the “nickels and dimes”, I was able to garner $3 million in volume to be an MMDP (the successor to the “Million Dollar Club, stands for Multi-Million Dollar Producer). At one time, selling a million dollars in real estate was a big deal. Now it’s not enough (volume and resulting commission) to rent a studio in the City.

 

The second reason is that this is a cute house. The land was worth more than $100,000 at one time. Yes, it needs work but the potential!!! This is a solid working class East Oakland neighborhood. Some original details are intact. The lot is deep.

 

Do I regret taking this listing? (You may recall my ambivalence in a previous post or two?

 

I know that with some REO’s—and desperate sellers—commissions are 3.5 to 5%--and sometimes a bonus--to the Buyer’s Agent. Somehow the probate court won’t allow this—despite the trustee and beneficiary being the same person? (I have a buddy who specializes in probate—maybe he can do battle with the judge and attorney better than I can.)

 

I guess that all of this begs the question:  Are there really homes that will NOT sell in today’s market regardless of price???? It appears that way to me—what do you think?

 

P.S. In checking the recent MLS comps, two houses are pending under $50,000 and four recent sales were under $50,000. If my soon-to-former listing sold at this price, I would make $210. I am glad that that I didn’t waste $100 on a sign!

 

Harrison Painter
GoGladiator Media - Carmel, IN
New Media Consultant

My advice is to go out an heavily market this to the investor market! Craigslist, Backpage, and other classified websites are very good, and free tools, to do this.

What are the market rents, taxes, and estimated property management expenses for this property.

We have investors looking for property in NoCal all the time, but I have shyed away from places that look good on paper, but are just too much of a war zone, like Richmond for example.

Good luck with your situation and I wish you the best!

-Harrison

Harrison Painter - Gladiator Real Estate Group

Mar 22, 2009 07:54 AM
Donna Harris
Donna Homes, powered by JPAR - TexasRealEstateMediationServices.com - Austin, TX
Realtor,Mediator,Ombudsman,Property Tax Arbitrator

I'm really good at math and can't figure out how you're only making $700 if you sell he house at $75,000.

Can you not show the court some listings in the MLS that show what the "market" commissions are these days? I'm sure if you show them enough examples, they'll have to realize they need to compete in order to sell.

Mar 22, 2009 08:03 AM
Pat Champion
John Roberts Realty - Eustis, FL
Call the "CHAMPION" for all your real estate needs

I wish you the best-it takes all kinds to make money. Every little bit helps especially in today's market.

Mar 22, 2009 08:04 AM
Kris Wales
Keller Williams Realty - Lakeside Market Center - Macomb, MI
Real Estate Blog & Homes for Sale search site, Macomb County MI

When prices fall we have to sell more homes to keep up with a reasonable standard of living.  

Frankly, many of the homes in my market area are priced right around the $75,000 mark and I'm more than happy to help buyers purchase them.

If I had to start deciding upon whether to help buyers (or sellers) based upon risk because of lower income to me and my broker I'd quit.   I do what I do because I thoroughly enjoy the process of helping home buyers (and sellers).

Mar 22, 2009 08:05 AM
David Ravashiere
David Ravashiere, Tee 2 Green Real Estate - Chandler, AZ

It seems a shame that you canceled the listing based on your commission alone (or did I misunderstand). 

One of the cornerstones of my business is that my commissions will always come second to the best needs of my clients.  Even though I have had my share of 'underwhelming' commission deals, I've found that my commitment to my clients has yielded more profitable referral business from these very same deals.

I really hope that I have misunderstood your motivation for cancelling your (probate) listing.  I know that times are tough ... and I have never walked a mile in yourmoccasins ... but if I have correctly understood you motivation for canceling your listing, I hope you'll consider broadening your view of our profession to include more of the clients' needs (in addition to your own).

Mar 22, 2009 08:27 AM
Sylvie Conde
Sutton Group-Associates Realty Inc., Brokerage - Toronto, ON
Broker, Toronto Real Estate

I'm not sure how 6% commission on $75,000 translates into $700... did you miscalculate? Are you giving away 5%?

Your motivation seems to be the amount of money you will make (regardless of whether or not you calculated the commission incorrectly) ... and if that's the case, I think you probably have to rethink what you're doing.

Your first priority should be to help the client, and put their needs first.  I will always look after the client's best interest, even if I walk away making $10.  The best advertising in the world I can get, is a happy client, who will tell everyone about me. 

The last client I helped, where I made no money at all, gave me a $2,000,000 referral (and I had a successful closing). 

You can't let money be the motivation.  Do this because you love it, and the money will come.

 

Mar 22, 2009 09:14 AM
Lynn Bratchett
Broker Lic #01859798 - Oakland, CA
Community Realty Property Management

I will help you sell it if it is still for sale and you still have the listing.

 

Apr 09, 2009 05:34 PM