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Candice A. Donofrio
Next Wave RE Investments LLC Bullhead City AZ Commercial RE Broker - Fort Mohave, AZ
928-201-4BHC (4242) call/text

The prime suspect in this murder is actually his former business partner, who had been a person of interest since he disappeared -- but yeah, we have to be very cautious.
Also, my understanding is that the couple he had shown property to have been ruled out. However I have it on good authority that somebody had been upset with him because he had sold them property without advising on the zoning uses. These people relied on his advice, moved across the country to the property and then found out that they could not use it. Another bad idea.

Jan 11, 2017 02:39 PM
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Elise Harron
Dirt Road Real Estate - Kingman, AZ
Rural Vacant Land and Development Specialist

Sid did not go to show a property - he met with his handiman, and had a disagreement about some stolen appliances and the handiman shot and killed him and dumped him in the desert.  The Handiman tried to kill himself about 6 months ago - he didn't succeed.  They put cuffs on him in a rehad center today and will be bringing him back here to Mohave County. 

The Handiman told the story that Sid had went to show a property - it was a lie.

Sid's family finally has closure.

All realtors should prescreen, protect your personal space alwasy and get trained and CARRY - cause it is not just your life you could save!

Jan 11, 2017 08:19 PM
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Fred Griffin
Frederick Griffin, Exclusive Buyer's Broker - Tallahassee, FL
Licensed Florida Real Estate Broker

  Isn't Arizona an open-carry state?  Why would anyone, especially a Realtor, not be trained in the use of a firearm?

Jan 11, 2017 06:00 PM
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Joe Pryor
The Virtual Real Estate Team - Oklahoma City, OK
REALTOR® - Oklahoma Investment Properties

It very sad to see the repeat of Arkansas.

Jan 11, 2017 01:40 PM
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Nina Hollander
RE/MAX Executive | Charlotte, NC - Charlotte, NC
Your Charlotte/Waxhaw/Fort Mill Area Realtor

It's a good idea. Then again, I have never in 25 years run out alone to meet someone I don't know in a house by myself. That would take care of a lot of these problems.

Jan 12, 2017 03:56 AM
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Ken Jones
Toms River, NJ
Real Estate Advisor

Jeff Pearl As I've previously written, Personal Safety is Deadly Serious Business.

Sadly, most agents are blinded by their misguided belief, that if they don't go out there and meet some stranger who says they're a buyer, that someone else will and they'll lose out on a commission.

All too often, they'll lose their life.

Jan 11, 2017 06:43 PM
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Gloria Valvasori
Better Homes and Gardens Real Estate Signature Service - Streetsville, ON
Outstanding Service Since 1987 416-717-6331

I always make it a practice of meeting with new clients in my office first before taking anyone out.  I never take out a new client alone, I always have someone with me... I always give my daughter or my office the name and contact information I have for them (which I have already used) to reach them,  their licence plate, and where I will be with this client.

Jan 11, 2017 03:03 PM
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Richard Weeks
Dallas, TX
REALTOR®, Broker

Just the thought of making a commission causes some to throw caution to the wind.

Jan 11, 2017 02:03 PM
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding and Marketing

Jeff,

Heartbreaking story.  

Jan 11, 2017 02:36 PM
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Lyn Sims
RE/MAX Suburban - Northwest Suburbs of Chicago - Schaumburg, IL
Schaumburg IL Area Real Estate

Sad story. 

Jan 11, 2017 02:23 PM
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Katina Hargrove 352-551-0308
Stake Your Land Realty, Inc. - Eustis, FL
Broker/Owner, GRI,SFR, Realtor

Jeff,

Thanks for the post, one must make sure the potential buyer is pre-approved and that the agent has spoken to the lender. No amount of money is worth the risk of someones life.

Jan 11, 2017 02:12 PM
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Anthony Acosta
Harry Norman, REALTORS® - Atlanta, GA
Associate Broker

So sad. We all need to be very careful. 

Jan 12, 2017 03:12 AM
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Tony Lewis
RE/MAX of Valencia (Hall of Fame) 30 year Valencia Resident - Valencia, CA
RE/MAX Valencia, Stevenson Ranch, Santa Clarita

I was born and raised in Detroit, Michigan, a Vietnam era Veteran and ran a liquor store for twenty years.  I live in fear but don't allow it to dictate my life.  Things happen all the time.  We have no idea what lies beyond the corner.  Stories like this are like stories about a plane or car crash.  You can quit or take your chances.  How many Realtors made it home safely tonight.  God Bless this Realtor and his family but we go back to work tomorrow.

Jan 11, 2017 09:55 PM
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Kerrie Faris
LRS Realty and Management, Inc - Rancho Bernardo, CA

This is just a reminder to all of us that we all need a safety plan in place, I like Gloria's comment.

Jan 11, 2017 09:46 PM
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
National Marketing Realtors - Minot, ND
Bob Timm is Minot North Dakota's Real Estate Guru.

I'm glad Candice A. Donofrio gives us more on the story BUT it's important for us guys to realize that not all assaults on agents are sexual assaults against women agents.

Jan 11, 2017 06:16 PM
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Michael Jacobs
Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage - Pasadena, CA
Pasadena CA Real Estate 818.516.4393 Cell

Very sad story.  

Jan 11, 2017 04:36 PM
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Jeff Dowler
Solutions Real Estate - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude - Carlsbad

It's certainly a sad story and another wake-up call about being safe and using common sense, male OR female

Jan 11, 2017 03:55 PM
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Praful Thakkar
Keller Williams Realty - Andover, MA
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Jeff Pearl - isn't it sad?

Jan 11, 2017 03:19 PM
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Raymond E. Camp
Nothnagle - Ontario, NY
Licensed Real Estate Salesperson Greater Rochester

It is too bad most learn by hard knocks.

Jan 11, 2017 02:56 PM
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Lynnea Miller
Bend Premier Real Estate - Bend, OR
Premier Real Estate Service in Central Oregon

Never do this. If you haven't met the client before, arrange to meet them in the brokerage - and introduce them to several people prior to showing property.  How very, very sad.

Jan 11, 2017 02:25 PM
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Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
www.HugginsHomes.com - Thousand Oaks, CA
Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties

As a hiker who's done solo hikes and second date hikes, I know the value of filing a hiking plan with a buddy.  Where you are going, the route you plan on taking and the estimated return time.  I do the same when showing property.  I inform my broker where I'll be, who I'm with (even if all I have is a name and number) and when I expect to be done.  I also have training and take precautions.

Jan 12, 2017 11:19 AM
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Will Hamm
Hamm Homes - Denver, CO
"Where There's a Will, There's a Way!"

Newbie need to know about this.  Thanks for getting the word out.

 

Jan 12, 2017 10:37 AM
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Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
Real Estate Broker

In today's society you can never be too careful!

Jan 12, 2017 06:44 AM
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Richard Bazinet /MBA
AZuRE Team - Realty ONE Group - Scottsdale, AZ
Phoenix Scottsdale Real Estate

OMG... that's in my Arizona. I always wondered what took place, and where this case was at. How sad this is... thank you for sharing. Yes, lets all practice safety first.

Jan 12, 2017 06:23 AM
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Carol Williams
U.S.: I specialize in helping agents who have been in the business 2 years or less create a thriving business. - Wenatchee, WA
"Customized Mentoring & Marketing Services"

Very Very Very sad!  In spite of the risks and warnings, many  REALTORS® often leave themselves vulnerable.  We can not stress enough how important it is to take EVERY possible precaution.   I'm still dumbfounded there aren't more policy precautions in place before showing property. 

Jan 12, 2017 06:19 AM
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Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041
ReMax Realtec Group - Palm Harbor, FL
Making FLORIDA Real Estate EZ

There exists no such thing as 100% safe.

Even with Sasquatch present, bad things can happen, and I know that.

I just try to make bad not happen today. Should anarchy occur again, I trust the volume of my life story, the lives I have touched, inspires others for years to come.

Jan 12, 2017 05:27 AM
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Michael J. Perry
KW Elite - Lancaster, PA
Lancaster, PA Relo Specialist

Newbies need to be trained on how to do Buyer Consultations which is the first step in working with Buyers !(before you pour hrs. into a unqualified consumer).

Jan 12, 2017 05:25 AM
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Barbara Todaro
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Franklin, MA
"Franklin MA Homes"

that's a horrible story.... 

Jan 12, 2017 04:57 AM
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Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel

Scary

Jan 12, 2017 03:52 AM
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Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
Haven Express @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty - Scottsdale, AZ
Serving Scottsdale, Phoenix and Maricopa County AZ

Candice A. Donofrio  nailed this one!

Jan 12, 2017 03:48 AM
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Peter Testa
Nationwide Homes - Danbury, CT
PETER TESTA

I would take precautions but not let fear hold me back.  

Jan 12, 2017 01:03 AM
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Inna Ivchenko
Barcode Properties - Encino, CA
Realtor® • Green • GRI • HAFA • PSC Los Angeles CA

It is very tragic...

My deepest condolences and prayers to the family....

 

Jan 11, 2017 11:50 PM
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Sharon Altier, SFR
Lawton Realty Group, Inc. - Elmhurst, IL

How can one truly pre-screen?  Are you going to run a criminal background check and credit check on a person?  Would love to have everyone run by FBI first, but it isn't plausible; is it?  

It can be a very ugly world out there. 

Jan 11, 2017 11:39 PM
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Paul S. Henderson, REALTOR®, Broker, Tacoma Washington
RE/MAX Professionals. - Tacoma, WA
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I have heard that sad story before...

Jan 11, 2017 10:31 PM
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Olga Simoncelli
Veritas Prime, LLC - New Fairfield, CT
Broker-Owner, RE Consultant, Licensed in CT & NY

I think most of us have probably done the same at some point. This is another reminder to be careful.

Jan 11, 2017 08:43 PM
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William Feela
WHISPERING PINES REALTY - North Branch, MN
Realtor, Whispering Pines Realty 651-674-5999 No.

Big reason I carry a weapon and I am careful as not to turn my cack on anyone and I keep an eye on my exits.

Jan 11, 2017 08:28 PM
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Debe Maxwell
www.AtHomesCharlotte.com | The Maxwell House Group - Charlotte, NC
Charlotte Homes for Sale - Charlotte Neighborhoods

Such a sad story - I'm curious how this will pan out with his partner...guilty or not?

Jan 11, 2017 08:09 PM
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Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service - Stevens Point, WI
Forestland Experts! 715-204-9671

So sorry to hear this, we stopped and visited an Active Rain member ( Elise Harron ) in that area a few years ago, I wonder if she knew him.  Good to know that she carries plenty of protection.

Jan 11, 2017 08:04 PM
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Dorie Dillard
Coldwell Banker United Realtors® ~ Subsidiary of NRT, LLC - Austin, TX
Realtor-Canyon Creek- NW, Austin TX Homes For Sale

This is not a story I enjoy reading..heartbreaking and so unnecessary.

Jan 11, 2017 07:00 PM
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Harry F. D'Elia
Real Estate and Beyond, LLC - Phoenix, AZ
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Thanks for the udpate and the safety advice

Jan 11, 2017 06:33 PM
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Kevin J. May
Florida Supreme Realty - Hobe Sound, FL
Serving the Treasure & Paradise Coasts of Florida

If you don't have a safety concern along with a plan an impromptu showing like this is similar to playing Russian roulette. Being anxious for a sale is one thing but being careless with your life is unacceptable. Too many others are depending on you!

Jan 11, 2017 06:27 PM
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Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA

Jeff Pearl No one is safe in this business. We have to be vigilant.

Jan 11, 2017 05:17 PM
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Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

I remember when this happened.  Terrible.

Jan 11, 2017 05:09 PM
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Steve Higgins
RE/MAX Kelowna - Kelowna, BC

That is really horrible. Hopefully the person or persons are caught.

Jan 11, 2017 05:02 PM
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Scott Godzyk
Godzyk Real Estate Services - Manchester, NH
One of Manchester NH's Leading Agents

SO sad and preventable. I never meet strangers at strange homes. Even when precautions are used, it can still be scary, which is why protection and bringing a 2nd person is a must

Jan 11, 2017 04:39 PM
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Maria Sapio
Berkshire Hathaway Homesale Realty - Carlisle, PA
Real Estate Agent- Carlisle, PA.

Tragic story ... 

Jan 11, 2017 04:18 PM
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Roy Kelley
Realty Group Referrals - Gaithersburg, MD
Roy and Dolores Kelley Photographs

Personal safety should always be a priority consideration.

Jan 11, 2017 03:35 PM
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Sybil Campbell
Long and Foster REALTORS® 5234 Monticello Ave Williamsburg, Virginia - Williamsburg, VA
REALTOR® ABR, SFR, SRES Williamsburg, Virginia

I am so sad and confused about this.

Jan 11, 2017 03:18 PM
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Kathleen Daniels
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
San Jose Homes for Sale - Probate Specialist

I do believe that vetting is a good practice.  It does not appear the accused in this case was client or real estate related.  

Jan 12, 2017 10:44 AM
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Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

You never know when the bell will toll for thee...

Jan 12, 2017 09:52 AM
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Nathan Gesner
American West Realty & Management - Cody, WY
We don't just manage!

By the way, there about ten REALTORS murdered every year so your odds are pretty good. The majority of those are in property management (my field). Be safe, but don't blow it out of proportion.

Jan 12, 2017 08:10 AM
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Jennifer Mackay
Keller Williams Success Realty - Panama City, FL
Your Bay County Florida Realtor 850.774.6582

It's why I am CCW certified

Jan 12, 2017 07:42 AM
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Sandy Padula and Norm Padula, JD, GRI NMLS#1483386
Allison James Estates & Homes & Pacific Sotheby's International Realty - Carlsbad, CA
Presence,Persistence & Perseverance

Sad event. Another great argument for open carry

Jan 12, 2017 07:13 AM
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Susan Haughton
Long and Foster REALTORS (703) 470-4545 - Alexandria, VA
The Susan & Mindy Team...Your Concierge Agents

Actually, what Candice A. Donofrio said, although I agree personal safety should absolutely come first.

Last year, I had a sign call on a vacant listing;  the person calling was affable, we had a great conversation but I could still feel something was "off" and when he balked at meeting me at the office before seeing the property (when the property was 10 minutes from the office), I said, okay, well, good luck with your search. 

We must have safety standards in place for ourselves and stick to them.  We are the only ones who can truly protect ourselves.

Jan 12, 2017 06:56 AM
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Les & Sarah Oswald
Eastvale Team Realty & Property Mgmt - Eastvale, CA
Broker, Realtor and Investor

Very sad. This is just a reminder and wake up call to be alert and cautious all the time.  Unfamiliar clients should be prescreened.

Jan 12, 2017 03:46 AM
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Sam Shueh
(408) 425-1601 - San Jose, CA
mba, cdpe, reopro, pe

mystery  solved?

Jan 11, 2017 07:41 PM
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James Dray
Fathom Realty AR LLC - Bentonville, AR
Exceptional Agents, Outstanding Results

So sad, we really need some rules

Jan 11, 2017 05:15 PM
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Joan Cox
Metro Brokers - House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time

This was very sad, and made an announcement today at our Association for all to hear.   We have to be so careful!   

Jan 13, 2017 03:22 PM
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Debbie Laity
Cedaredge Land Company - Cedaredge, CO
Your Real Estate Resource for Delta County, CO

I hadn't heard this story yet. What a shame. 

Jan 12, 2017 03:13 PM
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AJ Heidmann
McEnearney Associates, Inc. - Alexandria, VA
YOUR Alexandria & Arlington, VA Real Estate Expert

Common sense just doesn't seem so common anymore... and I am not talking about the tragic death of Sid.  For any Realtor to meet an unknown buyer/tenant outside of a well lit public area that has a lot of people in it is a recipe for potential disaster.  The office is the preferred place to meet, but it isn't always feasible, but a Starbucks or some other public place would be the place to meet.  Before you go out just ask yourself, would you let your wife/husband/kids go do the same thing?

Jan 12, 2017 03:10 PM