Joan Cox, Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time (Metro Brokers - House to Home, Inc.  - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373)

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Susan Emo
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It would be covered in the offer.  I miss the old days when the moving company cleaned up after they emptied the house and cleaned the new house prior to moving things in!  #spoiled

Feb 28, 2017 08:43 AM
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Roy Kelley
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It does not hurt to ask. However, the buyer will be better satisfied if they also plan to have the home cleaned before moving in.

Feb 28, 2017 08:24 AM
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Joan,

One can ask.  When we bought our home, we had Sunny Maintenance come in and clean it from top to bottom.  I would rather do it myself as a buyer.  A

Feb 28, 2017 08:14 AM
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Ken Jones
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Joan Cox Various factors are considered when creating both a listing/offering price, as well as when a buyer makes an offer to purchase. One of those things is the condition (including the cleanliness) of the property.

If I'm the listing agent advising a seller, and a buyer makes such a request, I would advise the seller to refuse, since this condition is obviously not part of the contract.

If I'm the buyer's agent, and a buyer doesn't make this a condition of their offer to purchase, I'd also advise them, that their opportunity to negotiate this issue has passed.

Additionally, if this request is made as part of the buyer's offer to purchase, as the listing agent, I'd advise the seller to upcharge for this, since the buyer is unlikely to walk for the cost of a few hundred dollars to clean the property.

After all, the buyer is seeing the property for what it is. If they want a clean home, they'd probably have to pay a higher price somewhere else.

A buyer can't reasonably expect to buy at a better than typical price for a "filthy" home, then require the seller to clean it up, too.

Feb 28, 2017 08:00 AM
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Lynnea Miller
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This should be written in the offer-home to be professionally cleaned prior to closing.

Feb 28, 2017 07:53 AM
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Joe Pryor
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Absolutely, that is common courtesy. Once I had a white male that my African American client bought a house from and he left it dirty saying her people knew how to clean. I had a pro service and paid for it myself.

Feb 28, 2017 08:16 AM
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Michael Jacobs
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I believe it is best for a buyer to consider the filthy situation as part of their offer strategy.   What you see is what you get.  It's kind of the same thing when asking the seller to make repairs -- negotiate a credit/price reduction or consider it when they write the offer but do you really want that seller responsible for repairs?   Or the cleaning by a relative who becomes "professional" because payment has been made?

Feb 28, 2017 02:35 PM
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I look at those homes as an opportunity, buy them, clean them, and resell them.

Feb 28, 2017 12:52 PM
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Olga Simoncelli
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It can't hurt to ask; the usual stipulation is "broom clean"; can adjust price for cleaning rather than getting into a back-and-forth; may not be worth it. Also, so-called "professional" cleaning may not be up to buyers' standards anyway.

Feb 28, 2017 12:51 PM
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Kelly Turbeville
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Homes are sold As-Is and the instructions note Broom clean in the terminolgy here.  If I am working with a buyer I have 3 cleaning services noted on my moving check list.   

Feb 28, 2017 12:00 PM
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Fred Griffin
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   If the Seller has the financial means, and the sale is not "as is", then I make it a condition in the offer. 

Feb 28, 2017 11:30 AM
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Bob Force (REALTOR®)
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If not part of the offer, not sure I would.  There is still may be some minor negotiations to be done around the Home Inspections.  I would not want that to be an thorn in the side of the seller.

Feb 28, 2017 11:25 AM
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Sally Lawrence
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In California, houses are sold "as-is."  That has a broad array of implications but when I'm counseling buyers, I coach them to interpret that to mean in it's current visible and observable condition, subject to inspections that may reveal issues that were not visible.

Specifically with regard to a filthy house, it depends on the accepted offer price.  Typically, I take into account the visible condition of the property when discussing an offer price with a buyer.  On that basis, we would discuss the fact that the house is filthy and that is the way that they should expect to get it.  However, if there are extenuating circumstances that would make it significantly advantageous to the buyer to have the house cleaned before closing, then we would structure the offer including language about how clean, and adjust the price accordingly.  That said, I also give them the option of simply arranging to have the house deep-cleaned professionally before they move in.  Doing that allows them to better control the result.

 

Feb 28, 2017 11:06 AM
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Joan Cox Everything is negotiable.

Feb 28, 2017 10:48 AM
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
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Yes, absolutely!  Been there, didn't do that and wound up paying for a cleaning as a courtesy because it was so disgusting!

Feb 28, 2017 10:37 AM
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Richard Weeks
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I would do that before it went under contract.

Feb 28, 2017 10:37 AM
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Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041
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Filthy is why the price was so attractive.

The seller is communicating clearly what they are willing to do.

So, I would insist on cleaning and watch the listing agent take care of it.

Feb 28, 2017 10:13 AM
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Barbara Todaro
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if I'm the listing agent, what the buyer sees is what the buyer gets....and it's empty of all personal property and broom clean at closing.... a cleaning company in a filthy home is a big cost!!  there would be language in the agreement acknowledging and being redundant to standard p&s language....

Feb 28, 2017 10:12 AM
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Kevin J. May
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Our contracts include the term "broom swept" which may be subject to interpretation. It should at least meet that threshold at final walk-through or funds will be escrowed at closing to implement the task.

Feb 28, 2017 09:31 AM
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Marc Swartz, CPA, CA, Real Estate Broker
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Such issues are covered during contract negotiations.

Feb 28, 2017 09:17 AM
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William Feela
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My listing gets cleaned by competent people and We request the same for buying

Feb 28, 2017 09:15 AM
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Nina Hollander
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Yes, I do, unless it's a distressed propert.

Feb 28, 2017 09:14 AM
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Richie Alan Naggar
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That....and more too

Feb 28, 2017 09:07 AM
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Corinne Guest, Managing Broker
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Our contract states broom clean. An addendum would have to be written to add to a contract, involving an attorney here. My thoughts are the buyer has made his offer based on what he sees, a dirty house, so no.

Feb 28, 2017 09:00 AM
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Susie Kay
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I ask my buyers whether they would like to request that.

Feb 28, 2017 08:56 AM
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Lyn Sims
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I've tried it & it's gone no where. It's too subjective I guess.

Feb 28, 2017 08:47 AM
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Julie Larson Realtor® Sarasota FL 941-882-0322
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It depends on whether or not the buyers are going to be rehabbing it.

Feb 28, 2017 07:52 AM
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Donna Foerster
Cherry Creek Properties, LLC - Parker, CO
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I would recommend a professional cleaning. Yuck!

Mar 07, 2017 02:58 PM
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Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
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I'd adjust the offer price based upon the condition and have the buyers do the cleaning.  Seller may not think there is anything wrong with the house.

Mar 01, 2017 09:56 AM
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Will Hamm
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I would say if it is that bad yes.

 

Mar 01, 2017 09:17 AM
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Jennifer Mackay
Keller Williams Success Realty - Panama City, FL
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I just suggest a cleaning, up to the seller to do as they will do

Mar 01, 2017 06:28 AM
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Harry F. D'Elia
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we do request it

Mar 01, 2017 03:57 AM
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Praful Thakkar
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Joan Cox - broom clean for sure.

The industry standard....lol!

Feb 28, 2017 09:18 PM
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Les & Sarah Oswald
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There is no harm in asking. However, a purchase is typically on its as is condition.

Feb 28, 2017 08:43 PM
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Troy Erickson
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Joan - I guess that I am a little old school, and would just expect that anyone who is selling their home would have enough respect to clean their home and leave it in good condition for the new buyers. However, I am also not naive, and know that this is just not how people operate anymore. Because of that, I would put something in writing when making the offer, if I wanted to make sure the home was professionally cleaned before the buyers moved in.

By the way, everybody assumes that the buyer got a great deal on this home because it was filthy, but I didn't read that anywhere in your question. Filthy could mean a lot of different things to different people. Perhaps this home just needed a thorough cleaning, and I haven't seen too many great price breaks where buyers are getting thousands of dollars off on a listing because a home needs some maid service that may cost up to a couple hundred dollars at most.

Feb 28, 2017 07:32 PM
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Derrick Guevremont
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It's something I would rather put in the offer, and many times it's asking for cartpet cleaning due to pet allergies.  Having more reasons makes asking easier.  We can always ask, try to justify that it "needs" to be done, and the sellers can always say no.

Feb 28, 2017 03:49 PM
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Debbie Reynolds
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Yes, that is part of the negotiation process. I do prepare the buyer to not expect miracles.

Feb 28, 2017 03:47 PM
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Jeff Dowler
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You could ask but it would have to be in the offer and agreed on. Buyers mught be better off having this done themselves the way they want after the closing.

Feb 28, 2017 03:35 PM
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Kasey & John Boles
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It depends on buyer competition. If there are multiple offers or it is a hot sellers market the less conditions generally fair better for a buyer. Depends on the house, the market, buyer and seller....

Oh and it needs to be done during negotiations and put into writing otherwise the seller is under no obligation to do so unless they just want to be kind and have pride in their home and sale.

-Kasey

Feb 28, 2017 12:02 PM
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Joan Cox
Metro Brokers - House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time

Our contracts used to say the Seller must leave the home in broom clean condition, and now it states left in the same condition as when the offer was written with normal & tear.    We usually write in this verbiage on the inspection objection if needed, but in a very crazy Seller's market, you don't get it approved often.

Feb 28, 2017 09:20 AM