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Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA, Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties (https://HugginsHomes.com)

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Sean Casey
Patterson-Schwartz Real Estate - Newark, DE
Greenville, Hockessin, Newark & Bear Homes

Unfortunately, NAR can't really do anything.  What would be impressive is if a couple of large brokerages like KW, Remax, and Realogy etc. pulled their feeds to Zillow.  I bet Zillow would drop the Instant offers program quickly if that were to happen.  

Jun 07, 2017 05:24 PM
Rainmaker
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Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
https://HugginsHomes.com - Thousand Oaks, CA
Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties

On an intersting related note, my state's association (California: CAR), released a press release today denouncing the instant offers and backing Realtors.  That made me happy.  Looks like they know where their bread is buttered.

Jun 07, 2017 03:47 PM
Rainmaker
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Candice A. Donofrio
Next Wave RE Investments LLC Bullhead City AZ Commercial RE Broker - Fort Mohave, AZ
928-201-4BHC (4242) call/text

NAR. Those limp weenies? Ha

Jun 07, 2017 05:03 PM
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Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, KW Diversified - Stevens Point, WI
Forestland Experts! 715-204-9671

Good luck, neither zillow or nar will care.

Jun 07, 2017 02:31 PM
Rainmaker
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Inna Ivchenko
Barcode Properties - Encino, CA
Realtor® • GRI • HAFA • PSC Calabasas CA

I was just reading CAR president message about it. I did not even know till now. Thanks Z. for trying to remove Realtors from serving buyers. Just Wow for that such moves are even possible. 

Jun 07, 2017 04:36 PM
Rainmaker
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Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041
ReMax Realtec Group - Palm Harbor, FL
Making FLORIDA Real Estate EZ

NAR is irrelvent.

A code of ethics for members, but NONE for them.

Agents need to be building their pathways to other options even if that means defiying the club rules.

#irrelevantNAR

Jun 07, 2017 04:54 PM
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Anna "Banana" Kruchten
HomeSmart Real Estate - Phoenix, AZ
602-380-4886

There is a big push going on here in Phoenix with a presentation in a few weeks. I am going to post about it, hopefully tomorrow.

Jun 07, 2017 05:49 PM
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Dorie Dillard Austin TX
Coldwell Banker Realty ~ 512.750.6899 - Austin, TX
NW Austin ~ Canyon Creek and Spicewood/Balcones

Will be interesting to watch..not sure this is going to make a difference.

Jun 07, 2017 04:08 PM
Rainmaker
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Kasey & John Boles
Jon Gosche Real Estate, LLC - BoiseMeridianRealEstate.com - Boise, ID
Boise & Meridian, ID Ada/Canyon/Gem/Boise Counties

I did see an article about this. -Kasey

Jun 07, 2017 02:27 PM
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Fred Griffin Florida Real Estate
Fred Griffin Real Estate - Tallahassee, FL
Licensed Florida Real Estate Broker

 

      Some are claiming that Z is "practicing Real Estate without a license".  I would think that Z's legal department has created the necessary real estate corporations and real estate LLC's, with the required Broker/Director in place, to comply with the laws of the states where they are running this program.

    The only damage that NAR could do to Z is to get every Board, Association, and MLS to stop giving away the farm by syndicating to Z. 

Jun 07, 2017 02:19 PM
Rainmaker
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy

Will it make a difference?

Jun 07, 2017 02:00 PM
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Anthony Acosta - ALLATLANTAcondos.com
Harry Norman, REALTORS® - Atlanta, GA
Associate Broker

Signed, thank you.

Jun 07, 2017 05:17 PM
Rainmaker
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Roy Kelley
Retired - Gaithersburg, MD

Do not count on action by NAR.

Jun 07, 2017 05:01 PM
Rainmaker
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Jeff Pearl
RE/MAX Distinctive / LIC in VA - Lovettsville, VA
Full Service Full Time Realtor

I don't rely on NAR for anything.

Jun 07, 2017 04:16 PM
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Liz and Bill Spear
Transaction Alliance 513.520.5305 www.LizTour.com - Mason, OH
Transaction Alliance Cincinnati & Dayton suburbs

A complete waste of pixels that could be better used elsewhere.  Nobu and the rest of NAR staff have long been aware there are lots of agents that HAAAAATE Zillow and there's not really a danged thing NAR can do about Z.  It's a capitalistic society and NAR can't dictate to a publicly traded company what they can and can't do.  Bill

Jun 07, 2017 06:20 PM
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Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

This reminds me of people who say we should have stopped Hitler at Munich. The NAR is asleep and that is why Zillow does what it does and others too. Simply put, being there in name only is not enough

Jun 07, 2017 03:52 PM
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Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel

Thanks for sharing 

Jun 07, 2017 03:41 PM
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Thomas J. Nelson, REALTOR ® e-Pro CRS RCS-D Vets
Big Block Realty 858.232.8722 - La Jolla, CA
CEO of Vision Drive Realty - Coastal San Diego
Jun 07, 2017 09:47 PM
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Savvy + Company (704) 491-3310 - Charlotte, NC
The RIGHT CHARLOTTE REALTOR!

SIGNED!  Thanks for providing the link, Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA.. I'm afraid that Bob Crane is right but, as you said, Ryan, it's time NAR stood up for us on this ongoing and growing issue.  

Jun 07, 2017 09:14 PM
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Debbie Reynolds, C21 Platinum Properties
Platinum Properties- (931)771-9070 - Clarksville, TN
The Dedicated Clarksville TN Realtor-(931)320-6730

I am not shocked at all at what Z is doing and saw it coming years ago. I see more steps in removing the real estate agent as the direct contact and them inserting themselves.

Jun 07, 2017 07:13 PM
Rainmaker
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Barbara Todaro
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Happily Retired - Franklin, MA
Previously Affiliated with The Todaro Team

ditto to what Fred Griffin said.... that's the key...the syndicating....

Jun 07, 2017 07:10 PM
Rainmaker
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Lise Howe
Keller Williams Capital Properties - Washington, DC
Assoc. Broker in DC, MD, VA and attorney in DC

I think 1 and 2 are sustainable arguments. 3 And4 are whining 

Jun 07, 2017 06:39 PM
Rainmaker
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Mary Yonkers
Alan Kells School of Real Estate/Howard Hanna Real Estate - Erie, PA
Erie/PA Real Estate Instructor

Thanks for bringing issue to forefront, Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA 

Jun 07, 2017 06:21 PM
Rainmaker
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Joe Pryor
The Virtual Real Estate Team - Oklahoma City, OK
REALTOR® - Oklahoma Investment Properties

It is a monumental waste of time and nothing will come of it and nothing should come of it.

Jun 07, 2017 05:59 PM
Rainmaker
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Scott Godzyk
Godzyk Real Estate Services - Manchester, NH
One of the Manchester NH's area Leading Agents

They are making an effort, but is it too late? is it too little? i signed it anyway

Jun 07, 2017 05:56 PM
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Kathryn Acciari
Central One Federal Credit Union - Shrewsbury, MA
Mortgage Loan Originator

I see this instant offer tactic as appealing to FSBOs and low-ball buyers. Most buyers/sellers will still want an agent to guide them.

As far as Z goes, the quickest way to strike is to pull syndication of listings to Z. That's it. Just stop. What is everyone afraid of?

Jun 19, 2017 08:49 AM
Rainmaker
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Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
Serving the Greater Phoenix and Scottsdale Metropolitan Area - Scottsdale, AZ
Haven Express @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty

Bob Crane  nailed this one!

Jun 08, 2017 08:44 AM
Rainmaker
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Sandy Padula & Norm Padula, JD, GRI
HomeSmart Realty West & Florida Realty Investments - , CA
Presence, Persistence & Perseverance

Will it be successful? Who knows. Perhaps it is time for a new NAR and MLS System owned by us?

Jun 08, 2017 06:51 AM
Rainmaker
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Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA

Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA Sean Casey has the only answer. We are our own worse enemy. They cannot survive without us.

Jun 08, 2017 06:07 AM
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Pasadena And Southern California 818.516.4393

Time will tell.   And time hasn't always been our friend.  

Jun 08, 2017 04:45 AM
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Realtor

What else is new about NAR not standing up for its membership?

Jun 08, 2017 04:32 AM
Rainmaker
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Sally K. & David L. Hanson
EXP Realty 414-525-0563 - Brookfield, WI
WI Real Estate Agents - Luxury - Divorce

Excellent points...look for NAR to ignore them....unfortunately and wish we could ignore NAr right back for all the support they don't provide

Jun 08, 2017 01:24 AM
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Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Andover, MA
Andover, MA: Andover Luxury Homes For Sale

Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA - yep, went to the site and filed the petition.

Jun 07, 2017 10:09 PM
Rainmaker
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Dave Halpern
Dave Halpern Real Estate Agent, Inc., Louisville, KY (502) 664-7827 - Louisville, KY
Louisville Short Sale Expert

It can't be stopped.

Jun 25, 2018 04:19 PM
Rainmaker
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Brandon Jordan
ERA American Real Estate - Crestview, FL

Signed thank you for posting.

Jul 16, 2017 02:21 PM
Rainer
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Michael Smith
HomeSmart Elite - Scottsdale, AZ
Residential Agent

I was part of the original petition to stop zillow.  www.stopzillow.com.  You have to hand it to Greg Hauge for getting it started.  Will it go anywhere?  If not with NAR it will at least get agents thinking about their futures.  Zillow is a tech company and doesn't care about you.  They are being sued for zestimate right now but all the estimate sites are wrong.  They don't see the homes.  5 years ago cab drivers though uber was a joke.  Who's laughing now.  Zillow is struggling with getting sellers to use their site.  They want seller data and this is a way to get it.   Once they have buyer and seller info, they can dominate the traffic.  All the big brokers are going to be forced to change.    If you can't beat zillow, you will be forced to pay thier high fee's and become a premier agent.  If you disagree with zesimate you can now hit a" I disagree tab"and their agent gets the lead to provide a real comparable.   If you want to sell your home and the investor offer is to low, the agent gets the lead.  Agents are going to have to form a bond and move away from NAR or they will go down with the ship.  Its coming.  Zillow is not going away.  More like them to come.  Check out uber founder starting real estate venture HAUS.  

Jun 27, 2017 04:31 PM
Rainer
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Mercure Volt
Fairmount Realtors - Montclair, NJ
Montclair School of Real Estate

Thanks for posting this, I'll be sharing with others as well.

Can you help explain the 9% commission Zillow charges? Thanks

Jun 13, 2017 05:35 PM
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Silvia Dukes PA, Broker Associate, CRS, CIPS, SRES
Tropic Shores Realty - Ich spreche Deutsch! - Spring Hill, FL
Florida Waterfront and Country Club Living

As long as associations and large brokerages provide listing information and individual agents feel pressured to "go with the flow", these efforts would present nothing more than empty words. 

Jun 11, 2017 02:42 PM
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Will Hamm
Hamm Homes - Aurora, CO
"Where There's a Will, There's a Way!"

I am all for this.  they need to be stop.

 

Jun 08, 2017 11:13 AM
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Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate Services

I honestly don't know. It's too much drama for me. It is doubtful much will come of it. 

Jun 08, 2017 08:44 AM
Rainmaker
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Harry F. D'Elia III
WEDO Real Estate and Beyond, LLC - Phoenix, AZ
Investor , Mentor, GRI, Radio, CIPS, REOs, ABR

That is why we pay annual dues

Jun 08, 2017 07:44 AM
Rainmaker
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Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

I highly doubt that NAR can do anything (or should do anything) to stop this.

Jun 08, 2017 06:00 AM
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Mike Kelly,CRS,CIPS
The MJKelly Team - Santa Rosa, CA
"One of Sonoma County's Natural Resources"

I'm getting a bit tired of the remarks NAR does nothing for us. I remember back in the pre-crash market when every alternative real estate brokerage was wanting congress to break up NAR's alledged "restraint of trade" and allow their free access to the MLS listings. NAR went to back for ALL of us. They are at the fore in preserving the Interest Deduction, keeping the $250,000/$500,000 capital gains forgiveness and stopping so many "point of sale" bills. As far as Zillow is concerned, what they are attempting to do is like a broker who wants his agents to go out and bring listings in while s/he runs a discount operation in the same space! Realtors are uploading homes to Zillow and Zillow is having you pay a license fee to be seen NEXT to your own listing and then they decide to eliminate us from the transaction. HELLO!!

Jun 07, 2017 09:02 PM
Rainmaker
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William Feela
WHISPERING PINES REALTY - North Branch, MN
Realtor, Whispering Pines Realty 651-674-5999 No.

It would be a lot faster if we stopped paying z for the high prices the charge for out own leads.  Whey dont' people get this.  Are they just lazy?

Jun 07, 2017 08:41 PM