Fred Griffin, Licensed Florida Real Estate Broker (Fred Griffin Real Estate)

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Jeff Dowler
Solutions Real Estate - Carlsbad, CA
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Excited? No. Does it make a difference overal? I sure hope so but I am dubious. Training for some will not matter. I suppose that's rather jaded. I take the training online.

Aug 12, 2017 07:11 PM
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Richard Bazinet /MBA, CRS, ABR
AZuRE Team - Realty ONE Group - Scottsdale, AZ
Phoenix Scottsdale Real Estate

You would not have to keep drilling ethics if the industry changed the way things work. Higher barriers of entry, higher barriers for staying. Such as much, much, much higher annual fees, a tiered licensing system, a more extensive schooling program, exams for every class when getting a license, and huge penalties for breaking the rules including the loss of the license, and each agent must get their own E&O.

This would eliminate the wish-wash in the business and the people that simply don't belong. And more business for the ones that qualify.

Aug 13, 2017 06:17 AM
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Candice A. Donofrio
Next Wave RE Investments LLC Bullhead City AZ Commercial RE Broker - Fort Mohave, AZ
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It's the same training over and over again. Too easy for too many to phone it in. You could do it annually, monthly, weekly and it wouldn't make a difference. I agree with Ronald, proactive enforcement is what's needed in our industry. A tall order.

Aug 13, 2017 05:38 AM
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Susan Haughton
Long and Foster REALTORS (703) 470-4545 - Alexandria, VA
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Just as having a driver's license won't keep you from texting and driving, regardless of what the law says, this requirement will not help anyone behave more ethically if it does not come to them naturally.

PS:  I only take classes online;  after years of listening to other peoples' "stories" (many of which made me cringe), I decided for my own mental health I was better served not being exposed to endless, meaningless anecdotes. 

Aug 13, 2017 05:14 AM
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Michael Jacobs
Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage - Pasadena, CA
Los Angeles Pasadena Area Real Estate 818.516.4393

Excited?  It's not exactly the word I would choose to describe my feelings on the subject.   

Education is good.  Putting that education into practice is better.   

For me -- online for credit.  In person for the experience.  

Aug 12, 2017 10:31 PM
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Jill Murty, Realtor - Orange County, CA
PREA Realty - Laguna Niguel, CA

The increase in frequency of ethics training will not help people who are ethically challenged become ethical.   

Aug 12, 2017 08:13 PM
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Ronald Gombach
The Gombach Group - Morrisville, PA

Sadly, more COE training likely won't have any significant impact until and unless those who violate COE are reported by their peers and made to accept real consequences. State Commissions have no resources, while State boards and local boards have too-long been more about white-washing than enforcement. 

Aug 13, 2017 05:15 AM
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Bob Crane
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I took it online, it was good training and I am sure that frequent repetition will be good for agents.

Aug 12, 2017 06:25 PM
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Lyn Sims
RE/MAX Suburban - Schaumburg, IL
Schaumburg IL Area Real Estate

I do it online. I always 'hope' that it helps but it indeed has not.

I'm going to write a post about one encounter when I get some time. Thanks for that reminder.

Aug 13, 2017 06:19 AM
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Barbara Todaro
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Franklin, MA
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online.... the very last minute prior to license renewal....and it's a pain in my not so fat A$$....

Aug 13, 2017 06:02 AM
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Lise Howe
Long and Foster - Washington, DC
Assoc. Broker and Attorney Licensed in DC, MD, VA,

definitely online - and yes - I am as excited about that as I am about the new CRS requirement for education annually! 

Aug 12, 2017 08:21 PM
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Dave Halpern
Keller Williams Realty Louisville East (502) 664-7827 - Louisville, KY
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It does make me a better agent. Good refresher course. 

Aug 12, 2017 06:11 PM
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Paul Antonelli
NextHome Antonelli Realty - Saint Cloud, FL
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I still don't think its enough. I swear that 85% of the new agents that sit through the COE leave the class with a complete disregard for the code. 

Aug 13, 2017 05:37 AM
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
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Charlotte Homes for Sale - Charlotte Neighborhoods

I wouldn't say excited but, I'm all for the bi-annual requirement, Fred. We can take them in-class or online - either one in North and South Carolina.

Aug 12, 2017 11:07 PM
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Thomas J. Nelson, Realtor,CRS,e-Pro
Big Block Realty 858.232.8722 - La Jolla, CA
Co-Host of Mail-Right's: Real Estate Agent Podcast

Given that my code of ethics exceeds that of any ofNAR's I'll go through it because i believe in being a Realtor, but it's kind of like a grandpa humoring his child "that's cute sweetheart" 🙄
I have to fall asleep for 1000 years before NAR caught up to my code of ethics 😎

Aug 12, 2017 08:17 PM
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Kathleen Daniels
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
San Jose Homes for Sale - Probate Broker

What a bunch of bull crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NAR needs to enforce their own damn Code!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OR put it in a place where the sun does not shine.  

Boy this hit a nerve in me. 

Aug 13, 2017 11:01 AM
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Richie Alan Naggar
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Someone who sits in an office was pressed to come up with an idea. The result is burdening others with this "training"? Parasitic behavior at work

Aug 13, 2017 06:23 AM
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Michael J. Perry
KW Elite - Lancaster, PA
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It might be part of a thinning out process ?

Aug 13, 2017 06:19 AM
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Nathan Gesner
American West Realty & Management - Cody, WY
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I've always taken it in the classroom because it's usually available for free at some point. With the shorter timeline, I'll probably do it online.

It's amazing that we need to be trained every two years on how to treat people honestly and fairly.

Aug 13, 2017 05:43 AM
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Nina Hollander
RE/MAX Executive | Charlotte, NC - Charlotte, NC
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Oh no, no, no... just another way to get money for classes if you ask me. If your instinct is not to be ethical, I don't care how many classes you take or how often... it won't make you more ethical. And after all these years that NAR has required this course, why do they feel it needs to be done more frequently--does this say what I've just said? That if someone isn't inclined to be ethical, they won't be?  I take all my classes live... just can't do the online stuff... I get distracted or I fall asleep in my chair.

Aug 13, 2017 04:21 AM
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Praful Thakkar
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Fred Griffin - I complete it online - and am okay with this - not so much we can do, isn't it?

Aug 12, 2017 11:08 PM
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Debbie Reynolds
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices PenFed Realty, Your Clarksville Real Estate Professional - Clarksville, TN
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Excited? No. but don't think it will hurt one bit and willing to do my part.

Aug 12, 2017 09:43 PM
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Gary 'Banana' Houghtaling
Phoenix Property Shoppe - Phoenix, AZ
Phoenix Real Estate Agent

Excited wouldn't be my first choice. Is it helpful for those agents that need a refresher. YES.

Aug 13, 2017 02:51 PM
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Silvia Dukes PA, Broker Associate, CRS, CIPS, SRES
Tropic Shores Realty - Ich spreche Deutsch! - Spring Hill, FL
Florida Waterfront and Country Club Living

We are required to take core law every two years so why not ethics as well. I prefer class room and our association offers the course fee of charge. I just wish they would update the material and make it more interesting. 

Aug 13, 2017 06:09 AM
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Diana Zaccaro
Veterans Realty of Brevard is not just for Veterans! - Cocoa Beach, FL

I was surprised to see this done and like the idea. I like taking the live class at our Board...we have some great instructors who make it meaningful and relevant which is hard to do online.

Aug 12, 2017 10:11 PM
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Joe Pryor
The Virtual Real Estate Team - Oklahoma City, OK
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Why not.

Aug 12, 2017 07:33 PM
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Will Hamm
Hamm Homes - Aurora, CO
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For old timers I am not sure but newbie need 2 years.

 

Aug 15, 2017 02:16 PM
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John Pusa
Berkshire Hathaway Home Services Crest - Glendale, CA
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Fred Griffin It is okay, and can be beneficial.

Aug 13, 2017 04:45 PM
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William Feela
WHISPERING PINES REALTY - North Branch, MN
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I would be much happier if they would jump on the offenders harder

Aug 13, 2017 04:22 PM
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Anna Banana Kruchten, CRS
Phoenix Property Shoppe - Phoenix, AZ
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Fred at this point an ethics class isn't going to make me a better agent - geez! But I do know that it is important to require this class as as we all know, some agents do 'forget' or simply don't care and they do what works best for them.

Aug 13, 2017 04:16 PM
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Paul S. Henderson, CRS, REALTOR®,
RE/MAX Professionals. - Tacoma, WA
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My company offers the course so I take it live in a classroom...

Aug 13, 2017 03:48 PM
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Hella M. Rothwell, Broker/Realtor®
Carmel by the Sea, CA
Rothwell Realty Inc. CA#01968433 Carmel-by-the-Sea

Online, and so it shows up on the NAR website since I am licensed in both California and Hawaii and both boards I belong to hound me on that. I know I took it twice recently. The frequency just doesn't make sense to me, but maybe many agents need to be reminded on what NAR considers "ethical". Many of the items are totally ignored in our profession.

Aug 13, 2017 03:37 PM
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Scott Godzyk
Godzyk Real Estate Services - Manchester, NH
One of Manchester NH's Leading Agents

Our state already required it, not sure it will help some others who never followed much of it anyway

Aug 13, 2017 02:17 PM
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Sybil Campbell
Long and Foster REALTORS® 5234 Monticello Ave Williamsburg, Virginia - Williamsburg, VA
REALTOR® ABR, SFR, SRES Williamsburg, Virginia

Interesting, I take some at the board and some online.

Aug 13, 2017 12:18 PM
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Corinne Guest, Managing Broker
Barrington Realty Company - Barrington, IL
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It will just get as part of my CE.

Aug 13, 2017 12:17 PM
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Carol Williams
U.S.: I specialize in helping agents who have been in the business 2 years or less create a thriving business. - Wenatchee, WA
"Customized Mentoring & Marketing Services"

I'd be more excited if they actually enforced the COE.   The people who NEED the COE training only take it because it is required.  I doubt it has any effect on the way they do business.  

Aug 13, 2017 10:58 AM
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Harry F. D'Elia
Real Estate and Beyond, LLC - Phoenix, AZ
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make it happen

Aug 13, 2017 09:19 AM
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Olga Simoncelli
Veritas Prime, LLC - New Fairfield, CT
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We've always had it in CT; it doesn't change a thing. I prefer classroom courses.

Aug 13, 2017 09:07 AM
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Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
www.HugginsHomes.com - Thousand Oaks, CA
Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties

Just another NAR money grab.  The Code is pointless and in my association you can't even be held accountable to it since we're all forced under duress to join!  I assume the majority of associations are that way too.

 

If I can find an open book exam way to take the tests I will.  Hopefully there is just an online course you can take w/no exam.  Just put it on and go grab a beer with the guys.

Aug 13, 2017 09:06 AM
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
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Fred,

As if that would help.  In CA we are required to take the Ethics course every time we renew our license...we still have unethical agents.  If it was required weekly, I doubt it would make a difference.  Of course, there are $$$ to be made!

Aug 13, 2017 07:26 AM
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Sandy Padula and Norm Padula, JD, GRI NMLS#1483386
Realty One Group - Carlsbad, CA
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Online only

Aug 13, 2017 07:19 AM
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Lynnea Miller
Bend Premier Real Estate - Bend, OR
Premier Real Estate Service in Central Oregon

I have always taken my training live. But I have to say it has become very repetitive and I remember the examples given year after year.

Aug 13, 2017 07:14 AM
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Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
Haven Express @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty - Scottsdale, AZ
Serving Scottsdale, Phoenix and Maricopa County AZ

Online...

Aug 13, 2017 06:28 AM
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Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
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Fred Griffin I always did it on line, but then our CE included an ethics module which covered the NAR requirement.

Aug 13, 2017 06:26 AM
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Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
Real Estate Broker

I think it is a waste of  time. In one ear and out the other with no stops or detours for most!

Aug 13, 2017 06:23 AM
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Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

I usually take it online.  Doesn't excite me.

Aug 13, 2017 06:20 AM
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Roy Kelley
Realty Group Referrals - Gaithersburg, MD
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The classes that I have attended have not been impressive.

Aug 13, 2017 05:22 AM
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James Dray
Fathom Realty AR LLC - Bentonville, AR
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Since we have no choice, if one is not ethical no amount of training will change them

Aug 13, 2017 04:52 AM
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Wayne and Jean Marie Zuhl
Hallmark Realtors - Clark, NJ
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This requirement has been in effec in NJ for many years. It's one of those laws that people thing every one ELSE needs.

Aug 13, 2017 04:48 AM
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Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel

Depends.

Aug 13, 2017 03:25 AM
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Inna Ivchenko
Barcode Properties - Encino, CA
Realtor® • Green • GRI • HAFA • PSC Los Angeles CA

Only online since it is much easier. And no, I do not believe it has value to go through it so often, especially if you are in the business for many years. 

Aug 12, 2017 11:28 PM