Phil Simmons (RE/MAX DFW Associates )

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Fred Griffin
Fred Griffin Real Estate - Tallahassee, FL
Licensed Florida Real Estate Broker

  $599+ per month could be better spent elsewhere.

Oct 11, 2017 09:12 PM
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
www.AtHomesCharlotte.com | The Maxwell House Group | RE/MAX Executive | (704) 491-3310 - Charlotte, NC
Charlotte Homes for Sale - Charlotte Neighborhoods

I'm sorry, I've never heard of them, Phil Simmons. Take great caution when spending your hard-earned money on leads. 

Oct 11, 2017 08:58 PM
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Barbara Todaro
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Franklin, MA
"Franklin MA Homes"

I've ALWAYS produced my own leads....never paid a penny for leads from any program....  I suggest you learn SEO and this is the place for that.... 

Katerina Gasset is the person to call.... just call and have a conversation with her... that's how I learned to market online... and I was technology challenged..... 

Oct 12, 2017 04:06 AM
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Diana Zaccaro
Veterans Realty of Brevard is not just for Veterans! - Cocoa Beach, FL

I don't buy leads so can't answer but you have gotten some great, honest answers already.

My philosophy about buying leads is like the old adage "Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach him to fish and he eats for the rest of his life".

If you learn how to generate your own leads now,  you will save a lot of money over the years and build a better business.

 

Oct 11, 2017 10:14 PM
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Katerina Gasset
Get It Done For Me Virtual Services - Wellington, FL
Get It Done For Me Virtual Services

You could spend half of that on virtual assistants each month and get a better footprint online. It does take time because there is no magic bullet, but you would own your own leads. 

I need to write a post about this because it is coming up so much lately. 

There are ONLY X amount of buyers looking on line for a home in your area. 

There are MANY Y companies paying for google adwords on google. 

That is where the big boys get the leads they sell you from. 

A new company pops up and starts selling leads. Suddenly agents think there are more leads. 

Take note: Just because a company starts bidding on leads, does NOT create more buyers. 

So think about all the big boys and then add in Bold leads, Commission Inc, Tiger leads, Market Leader, and on and on... 

They are ALL bidding for the same pool of buyers!!! 

No more buyers get created! 

Think about that before you buy leads. 

Oct 13, 2017 10:00 AM
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Nina Hollander
RE/MAX Executive | Charlotte, NC - Charlotte, NC
Your Charlotte/Waxhaw/Fort Mill Area Realtor

Depends on whether you want to buy leads. Have never heard of them.

Oct 12, 2017 03:25 AM
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Michael J. Perry
KW Elite - Lancaster, PA
Lancaster, PA Relo Specialist

Be very slow to give your credit card #'s to internet based companies !

Oct 12, 2017 03:13 AM
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Lyn Sims
RE/MAX Suburban - Schaumburg, IL
Schaumburg IL Area Real Estate

Why? Never heard of it. Please keep your wallet closed & look elsewhere.

Oct 12, 2017 05:17 AM
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Roy Kelley
Realty Group Referrals - Gaithersburg, MD
Roy and Dolores Kelley Photographs

Save your money and work to develop your own leads.

Oct 12, 2017 05:05 AM
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Kat Palmiotti
Grand Lux Realty, 914-419-0270, kat@thehousekat.com - Monroe, NY
The House Kat

I used to participate in a program which required a referral fee on the back-end if a lead closed. It was something I participated in while at my last brokerage. There was no monthly fee or ongoing fee; you only paid if something closed.

Well, I found that I spent SO much time chasing and following up on these leads, most of which were not really interested in purchasing/selling, that I was not spending time on generating my own leads. The quality of the leads was not great, and many of the leads were farmed out to other agents in other companies via other methods as well.

The bottom line is that I am not a supporter of paying for leads, neither upfront or at closing. Lead generation systems such as this might seem like a "fast" way to get some business, but they are not. Doing open houses for other agents listings if you don't have any, getting out and meeting people, sending information to homes on a regular basis, knocking on doors to introduce yourself, talking to everyone you know, using social media, following up on every organic lead you do get, those are all ways to slowly build your own lead generation engine.

Oct 12, 2017 03:12 AM
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Kathleen Luiten
Resort and Second-Home Specialist - Princeville, HI
Kauai Luxury Ocean Home Sales

Fred Griffin has offered you sage advice, as we who followhim know he usually does! Don't spend money on leads unless you have done 110% to pursue all of your sphere of infulence plus easy network avenues first. Leads may not return even a few pennies on your invested dollar.

Oct 12, 2017 02:33 AM
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Inna Ivchenko
Barcode Properties - Encino, CA
Realtor® • Green • GRI • HAFA • PSC Los Angeles CA

I did not try it and after finding out the price, i'll probably pass. There much better ways to spend my money.

Oct 11, 2017 11:32 PM
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Endre Barath, Jr.
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices - Beverly Hills, CA
Realtor - Los Angeles Home Sales 310.486.1002

Never heard of them, what are they promising and who is their happy client base?

Oct 11, 2017 10:27 PM
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Richard Bazinet /MBA, CRS, ABR
AZuRE Team - Realty ONE Group - Scottsdale, AZ
Phoenix Scottsdale Real Estate

Never heard... maybe you need to rethink how you get business

Oct 11, 2017 09:48 PM
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Jennifer Mackay
Keller Williams Success Realty - Panama City, FL
Your Bay County Florida Realtor 850.774.6582

Think you could do much better with your marketing dollars but hey - only you can tell if it's worth it.

 

Oct 12, 2017 03:49 PM
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Corinne Guest, Managing Broker
Barrington Realty Company - Barrington, IL
The Choice of Professionals

I don't like those numbers, have not used them but if I recall it used to be $99, so WOW!

Oct 12, 2017 10:57 AM
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Jeff Pearl
RE/MAX Distinctive / LIC in VA - Lovettsville, VA
Full Service Full Time Realtor

Bold Leads might actually be Cold Leads instead of Gold Leads!

Oct 12, 2017 09:49 AM
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Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
www.HugginsHomes.com - Thousand Oaks, CA
Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties

Never heard of them.  In general purchased leads are not worth anything, in my experience and that of others I've talked with.

Oct 12, 2017 08:35 AM
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Anthony Acosta - ALLATLANTACONDOS.COM
Harry Norman, REALTORS® - Atlanta, GA
Associate Broker

I do not pay for leads. 

Oct 12, 2017 07:56 AM
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Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

I've never been very bold.

Oct 12, 2017 06:39 AM
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Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA

Phil Simmons The only people who make money selling leads are the lead generation sellers. Save your money. You can do better with face-to-face networking and it doesn't cost anything.

Oct 12, 2017 06:31 AM
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Nathan Gesner
American West Realty & Management - Cody, WY
Broker / Property Manager

I've never used it but I've also never heard of a lead-buying program that actually worked. You would be better of spending your money on a quality web site or direct mail marketing.

Oct 12, 2017 06:15 AM
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Scott Godzyk
Godzyk Real Estate Services - Manchester, NH
One of Manchester NH's Leading Agents

Buying leads is a complete waste of time an dmoney, use the time and money to generate your own. My Active Rain blog produces more leads than any paid source could ever. They are new, real and not given to 100 other agents like others do

Oct 12, 2017 05:35 AM
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Richard Weeks
Dallas, TX
REALTOR®, Broker

Sorry I have no experience in buying leads.  I get them the old fashion way.  I earn them.

Oct 12, 2017 05:30 AM
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Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
Haven Express @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty - Scottsdale, AZ
Serving Scottsdale, Phoenix and Maricopa County AZ

Debe Maxwell, CRS nailed this one!

Oct 12, 2017 05:22 AM
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Joe Pryor
The Virtual Real Estate Team - Oklahoma City, OK
REALTOR® - Oklahoma Investment Properties

Zillow would be better than that.

Oct 12, 2017 04:26 AM
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Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, Keller Williams fox cities - Stevens Point, WI
Forestland Experts! 715-204-9671

BoldTake the KW BOLD class and you wont need to buy leads from anyone.

Oct 11, 2017 10:39 PM
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding and Marketing

Phil,

That is $7200 a year, there are so many less expensive ways to generate leads without this kind of output.  A

Oct 13, 2017 04:02 PM
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William Feela
WHISPERING PINES REALTY - North Branch, MN
Realtor, Whispering Pines Realty 651-674-5999 No.

Waste of time and money!  Market yourself.

If you are making a life long career of Real Estate then don't be lazy and go get the leads.

Oct 12, 2017 06:07 PM
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John Pusa
Berkshire Hathaway Home Services Crest - Glendale, CA
Your All Time Realtor With Exceptional Service

Phil Simmons Never tried Bold Leads yet.

Oct 12, 2017 03:26 PM
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Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041
ReMax Realtec Group - Palm Harbor, FL
Making FLORIDA Real Estate EZ

What else could you do with those dollars?

What if you walked down the street and offered every adult you see $10 to chat with you for a few minutes.

Maybe you could take a couple of days to print a 'alternative' financing overview (see my question posted yesterday) and show those who know you and meet you that you are not simply a 'smiley face' but one of vision whose currency is solutions.

What if you used those dollars to buy membership into or be a sponsor at the local art gallery or sponsor a exhibition or promote an environmental cause.

As you can tell, I am not a fan of buying leads. This is part of the squeeze the new agent before they fold up their business within 24 months. These programs are attractive to newbies because they allow the newbie to do what they want to do instead of what they NEED TO DO.

 

Oct 12, 2017 07:07 AM
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Sandy Padula and Norm Padula, JD, GRI NMLS#1483386
Realty One Group - Carlsbad, CA
Presence, Persistence & Perseverance

No idea, but please report back with your success and failure

Oct 12, 2017 06:37 AM
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Sam Shueh
(408) 425-1601 - San Jose, CA
mba, cdpe, reopro, pe

Never had luck with these things. They sell same leads to your competition or people who love to click and do not want to talk to you. 

Oct 12, 2017 05:13 AM
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Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
Real Estate Broker

Not a fan of buying leads. Seems only the provider makes any money

Oct 16, 2017 05:40 AM
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Joan Cox
Metro Brokers - House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time

I have never spent a penny on lead generation, and have heard many say they are worthless.  Not sure about Bold.

Oct 15, 2017 06:25 AM
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Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel

no idea

Oct 12, 2017 06:00 AM