Jeff Pearl, Full Service Full Time Realtor (RE/MAX Distinctive / LIC in VA)

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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Alliance Real Estate - Minot - Minot, ND
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I'll go with NO because of the lack of toxic residue. I don't want it to end up that we have to report every death in a home.

Dec 07, 2017 07:27 AM
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Roy Kelley
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This is an important topic and there are no easy answers.

Dec 07, 2017 07:45 AM
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Candice A. Donofrio
Next Wave RE Investments LLC Bullhead City AZ Commercial RE Broker - Fort Mohave, AZ
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It really is an epidemic in so many areas and I blame the doctors (for a lot of things). NOT apples / apples, however.
You don't need a hazmat suit to go into a house where someone OD'd on opioids. A cookhouse is an entirely different story.

Dec 07, 2017 07:03 AM
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Kathleen Daniels
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
San Jose Homes for Sale - Probate Broker

I do not know. 

In general, where there are health risks ... we need solutions to protect the public.

Dec 07, 2017 07:39 AM
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Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, Keller Williams fox cities - Stevens Point, WI
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Nice of you to take a proactive approach and being prepared to save lives Jeff.

Dec 07, 2017 07:17 AM
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Anthony Acosta - ALLATLANTACONDOS.COM
Harry Norman, REALTORS® - Atlanta, GA
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There is a difference between the two.

Meth home have hazardous chemicals from cooking the drug that affects the health of anyone accessing the home. (non drug users)

Opioid overdose affects the drug user. 

Why would they be threaded the same?  Just curious!

Congratulation to you for getting certified and helping others.

Dec 07, 2017 06:59 AM
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Richard Bazinet /MBA, CRS, ABR
AZuRE Team - Realty ONE Group - Scottsdale, AZ
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That I know very little about, so that's an education for me. I don't have to deal with this in my market area.

Dec 07, 2017 06:56 AM
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Susan Haughton
Long and Foster REALTORS (703) 470-4545 - Alexandria, VA
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It is becoming an unbelievable problem but I don't have an answer to your question as I have given it no prior thought.   It is something to ponder, though.

Dec 07, 2017 07:01 AM
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Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
www.HugginsHomes.com - Thousand Oaks, CA
Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties

No, no toxic residue.  Just like ODing from sleeping pills.

 

I've had some education on that Naloxone stuff as well.  People make the mistake of not calling 911 and just giving that.  They still need a hospital.

Dec 07, 2017 10:30 AM
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Nina Hollander
RE/MAX Executive | Charlotte, NC - Charlotte, NC
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Not sure why an opiod death would be comparable to a meth lab. This reminds me more of the 1990's when we had issues with homes where people died of AIDS. While I have one friend whose son died from an accidental opiod overdose (had been suffering since working at the WTC after 9/11), can't say I've come across this issue enough in my market to get trained to carry Naloxone.

Dec 07, 2017 08:06 AM
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Kevin J. May
Florida Supreme Realty - Hobe Sound, FL
Serving the Treasure & Paradise Coasts of Florida

The number of overdoses are staggering compared to the percentage that die from it. I'm saddened that you were compelled to carry this card. It very well could becomea full-time job for millions and not put a dent into the activity. 

Dec 07, 2017 07:04 AM
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Michael Jacobs
Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage - Pasadena, CA
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At this point, the answer will likely vary by state/jurisdiction.  Be careful in practice and with disclosure.

Dec 07, 2017 06:50 AM
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Caroline Gerardo
Eagle Home Mortgage, LENNAR HOMES Home Loans - Newport Beach, CA
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Jeff that is so kind of you to be trained to administer a counter drug that could save someone, but your link appears to say the responder could possibly die from other airborne drugs laced in the heroin. Wow how terrible

Dec 07, 2017 02:26 PM
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Diana Dahlberg
1 MONTH REALTY - Kenosha, WI
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I don't know enough about opioids ... but we need to be educated and aware of the dangers 

Dec 07, 2017 12:47 PM
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Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041
ReMax Realtec Group - Palm Harbor, FL
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My 90 year old mother suffered a fall a short time ago that resulted in hospitalization. The hospital and three different heal care practitioners, within 90 days, prescribed a 30 day supply of narcotics in the event she might experience pain. Do the math. That is 120 pills that are opioid. My 90 year old momma might have become an addict if not for an overprotective daughter. In the last instance she read the insert and caught the transgression herself.

This is a chronic failure in a health-care system dependent on pharma and dumps the results on the public.  Perfectly normal people made into addicts by following the instruction of the health care provider.

No, a house occupied by an addict who is killed by using heroin need not be treated as a meth lab. However each state has their own requirements regarding disclosure of death. 

Dec 07, 2017 10:32 AM
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Lynnea Miller
Bend Premier Real Estate - Bend, OR
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Meth is a serious issue in a home due to the residual left due to the cooking process. Other types of drugs, as far as I know, don't have the serious medical issues retained in the building that meth does. Good for you for your certification, Jeff.

Dec 07, 2017 10:17 AM
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Fred Griffin
Fred Griffin Real Estate - Tallahassee, FL
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      Whenever the Government makes drugs illegal or hard to get, junkies will find a way to create their own.  Often, with hazardous results, like meth labs.

    As for selling a house that is/was a known drug lab, the standard rule applies:   Disclose, disclose, disclose!

   

Dec 07, 2017 08:58 AM
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Barbara Todaro
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Franklin, MA
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congratulations on getting your certification.... smart man.... we're all surrounded by opioids.... and I know it's Dr.'s who make much of this happen initially.... I've had surgeries and my surgereon was generous with oxy dosages.... I reduced it to 5 mg....and then I didn't use it....did the entire after surgery gig with extra strength tylenol.... oxy scares the B'Jesus out of me. 

Dec 07, 2017 08:50 AM
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Joe Pryor
The Virtual Real Estate Team - Oklahoma City, OK
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I do not see this as the same. If I walk into an untreated meth home I am in danger. I don't see the same thing for opioids.

Dec 07, 2017 08:12 AM
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
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Jeff,

I am assuming each state and each jurisdiction will respond in its own inimitable way.  A

Dec 07, 2017 07:56 AM
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Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
Real Estate Broker

I have no clue except to offer the answer is different in every state!

Dec 07, 2017 06:58 AM
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Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

There is such a thing as saying more than is necessary thus creating problems. By all means disclose what is pertinent & relevant professionally

Dec 07, 2017 06:54 AM
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Steve Higgins
RE/MAX Kelowna - Kelowna, BC

It is a crisis out here Jeff. Most of our overdoses are fentanyl OD's done by the homeless. If they are making the fentanyl laced drugs in the home then yes they should be treated like meth labs. If it is just an overdose in the home then I don't think so. 

Dec 08, 2017 05:30 PM
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Nathan Gesner
American West Realty & Management - Cody, WY
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It's a shame that our country is headed that direction but I suspect we'll see changes pretty soon because it's going to present a bigger danger than lead paint.

Dec 08, 2017 05:07 AM
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Inna Ivchenko
Barcode Properties - Encino, CA
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Not in my hood.......At least, I do not know anything about such increase....

Dec 07, 2017 11:22 PM
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Anthony Kirlew
Fiscally Sound - Gilbert, AZ
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I thought you were kidding about Nalaxone until I opened the question and saw your card. That's a huge service to your community to take on that burden and it speaks to your concern for people. Many people don't want to get involved, but administering Narcan is going the extra mile and literally saving lives. Thanks for caring for the people in your community the way you do.

Dec 07, 2017 10:41 PM
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William Feela
WHISPERING PINES REALTY - North Branch, MN
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I have heard this also and bet we see it soon

Dec 07, 2017 03:16 PM
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Sean Casey
Patterson-Schwartz Real Estate - Newark, DE
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I honestly don't know.  It's sad what happens with addiction.  

Dec 11, 2017 09:14 AM
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Joan Cox
Metro Brokers - House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
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CO does not have a regulation we have to report deaths.  Meth yes.

Dec 10, 2017 03:11 PM
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Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
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Thank you for sharing 

Dec 08, 2017 05:45 AM
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Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

I doubt it.  But good for you in carrying the Naloxone and being trained on its use.

Dec 08, 2017 04:59 AM
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Olga Simoncelli
Veritas Prime, LLC dba Veritas Prime Real Estate - New Fairfield, CT
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Good for you! Meth labs are actual factories with toxic materials and fire hazards. OD's are just people... they don't contaminate the home, they have an addiction.

Dec 07, 2017 08:02 PM
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Debbie Reynolds
Platinum Properties - Clarksville, TN
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I am not familiar enough with how that will damage a pro[perty to cause the property to be registered or require a cleanup.

Dec 07, 2017 07:47 PM
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Tyra Hatcher Mitchell
Alliance Realty - Portland, ME
Southern Maine Realtor

I must be a polyanna because this is a new conversation to me :(  Very sad! But good for you for getting trained!

Dec 07, 2017 06:42 PM
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Dave Halpern
Keller Williams Realty Louisville East (502) 664-7827 - Louisville, KY
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There's no risk to the next buyer, so no

Dec 08, 2017 05:06 AM
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Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
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Roy Kelley nailed this one!

Dec 08, 2017 05:02 AM