Fred Griffin, Licensed Florida Real Estate Broker (Fred Griffin Real Estate)

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Candice A. Donofrio
Next Wave RE Investments LLC Bullhead City AZ Commercial RE Broker - Fort Mohave, AZ
928-201-4BHC (4242) call/text

And listen to y'all whine all the time? Hell to the no! LOLOLLLLLL
I think a lot of people underestimate what goes into something as big as this.

Jan 16, 2018 09:50 AM
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John Meussner
Mason-McDuffie Mortgage, Conventional Loans, Jumbo Loans, FHA, 203(k), USDA, VA, - Walnut Creek, CA
#MortgageMadeEasy Walnut Creek, CA 484-680-4852

Sure would.  I actually inquired not too long ago about buying it.  I would make some changes, but also just bring back some of the things that has made the platform so good over the years.

 

I don't have the tech wherewithal myself to get things moving optimally, but I do know the people that could.  Lots of techie friends - programmers, CIOs, etc.

Jan 16, 2018 01:09 PM
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James Dray
Fathom Realty AR LLC - Bentonville, AR
Exceptional Agents, Outstanding Results

I vote for Candice A. Donofrio to take over.  All those in favor say "I"

Jan 16, 2018 11:47 AM
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Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA

Fred Griffin There are a little over 297,000 members. I wonder how many are paying vs. free accounts? I have to agree with Joe Pryor , I don't believe the ROI is there. Google Juice used to bring them in by the hundreds, but I don't think so much anymore. Your post on page one two-three minutes after posting it was quite an incentive. Now they seem to be buried. No I would not purchase it.

Jan 16, 2018 11:04 AM
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Richard Bazinet /MBA, CRS, ABR
AZuRE Team - Realty ONE Group - Scottsdale, AZ
Phoenix Scottsdale. Sellers, Buyers & Relocations

Yes to your questions, as a co-owner with partners if I could make some $$$ off of it to account for my time and intellectual property.

Used to own a technology company. I get it.

I don't manage social or networking clubs anymore. Been there, done that. Sucks.

Jan 16, 2018 08:45 PM
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Alliance Real Estate - Minot - Minot, ND
Bob Timm, Broker Associate, Alliance Real Estate

If I had your money I'd consider it Fred Griffin . No drastic changes BUT change is inevitable for survival.

Jan 16, 2018 12:55 PM
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Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, Keller Williams fox cities - Stevens Point, WI
Forestland Experts! 715-204-9671

I prefer a business with less whining customers, better investments elsewhere.

Jan 16, 2018 10:48 AM
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Scott Godzyk
Godzyk Real Estate Services - Manchester, NH
One of Manchester NH's Leading Agents

I would buy it but keep it a secret. Would not want any complaint. 

Jan 16, 2018 10:18 AM
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Kathleen Daniels
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
San Jose Homes for Sale-Probate & Trust Specialist

Absolutely I would buy it and I would make changes. Too many to list here. 

Jan 16, 2018 08:45 PM
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
www.AtHomesCharlotte.com | The Maxwell House Group | RE/MAX Executive | (704) 491-3310 - Charlotte, NC
Charlotte Homes for Sale - Charlotte Neighborhoods

I love what I do, Fred! But, if you buy it, I'll lend a hand - for sure!

Jan 16, 2018 08:36 PM
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Thomas J. Nelson, Realtor,CRS,e-Pro
Big Block Realty 858.232.8722 - La Jolla, CA
Co-Host of Mail-Right's: Real Estate Agent Podcast

It's probably cheap to buy since they've let it go so much.

  1. improve retention and increase involvement
  2. restructure the points system and incentives/contests
  3. reinstate ARU and Rain Camps
  4. Actually post Podcasts on the Podcast site that's been devoid of content for almost a year.
  5. Improve the performance; eliminate the gremlins I see daily complaints about.
  6. No, I wouldn't buy it.
Jan 16, 2018 08:05 PM
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Gene Mundt, IL/WI Mortgage Originator - FHA/VA/Conv/Jumbo/Portfolio/Refi
NMLS #216987, IL Lic. 031.0006220, WI Licensed. APMC NMLS #175656 - New Lenox, IL
708.921.6331 - 40+ yrs experience

Nope, Fred Griffin ... my dream of a future venture is more in line with a golf course or golf shop ...

Sigh ...

Gene

Jan 16, 2018 02:01 PM
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John Pusa
Berkshire Hathaway Home Services Crest - Glendale, CA
Your All Time Realtor With Exceptional Service

Fred Griffin ActiveRain website with some reasonable changes can be profitable.

Jan 16, 2018 12:40 PM
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Gloria Valvasori, Accredited Senior Agent
BETTER HOMES AND GARDENS REAL ESTATE SIGNATURE SERVICE - Mississauga, ON
REAL Experience | REAL Commitment | REAL Results!

Are you kdding?  HELL NO!  Why would I want all this hassle?  

Jan 16, 2018 12:27 PM
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Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041
ReMax Realtec Group - Palm Harbor, FL
Making FLORIDA Real Estate EZ

Absolutely  I would buy it.

I know where to find the tech skills needed to keep this thing cobbled together.

Would I keep it the same? Hell no.  

I would maintain the agent to agent element of blogs and Q & A, but this would be a section of a much more valuable asset for participating agents.

I would take payment in Bitcoin, Litcoin, Dorittos, Ethereum, Dash, Kodakcoin, Firtborn, Ripple, Humus, Digitcash, Bitshares and USD. 

However, the real currency is agent participation. The more logs in the fire the more heat created. If thereis to much crybaby stuff then its back to the 'In God We Trust' but the rest of you pay cash.

Then I'd pay those folks at Nividia to get on with the 'punctuation.' It would be a platform from which those of vision, awareness and courage can see the opportunity to make change before the caous insues.

Those holding NAR close to their heart, will be left at the curb.

Jan 16, 2018 11:46 AM
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Ken Jones, ASA, CRES
Institute of Real Estate Technologies - Newark, NJ
Kenneth J. Jones

Fred Griffin Nope.

I really don't see much of a benefit to owning a site of this type. Primarily because it has a relatively limited market and minimal growth potential.

Both of these factors do not provide a basis for creating a meaningful and expanding profit center. And, in my opinion, as a potential profit center, it's far more likely to shrink over a reasonable time (5 years) than it is to grow.

Jan 16, 2018 11:36 AM
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Lyn Sims
RE/MAX Suburban - Schaumburg, IL
Schaumburg IL Area Real Estate

You go ahead Fred.

Jan 16, 2018 11:04 AM
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Roy Kelley
Realty Group Referrals - Gaithersburg, MD
Roy and Dolores Kelley Photographs

I would not buy it. 

Jan 16, 2018 10:54 AM
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Diana Zaccaro
Veterans Realty of Brevard - NOT just for Veterans! - Cocoa Beach, FL
Your Brevard County, Florida coastal connection!

Buy it? No, I'm techno-challenged...remember? BUT possibly consider buying a share in it and acting as a director/consultant, depending on who was purchasing it and what their plans were for revamping and taming the monster it has become.

AR needs to go back to basics and find its identity in today's world. The groups are no longer relevant for the most part and the membership list is out of control. It needs to be limited to active members so there is incentive for members to post and participate. The free accounts need to go, that would help reduce or eliminate spam and there are many other changes I would make.

A girl can dream...     

 

 

Jan 18, 2018 01:42 PM
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Andrew Mooers | 207.532.6573
MOOERS REALTY - Houlton, ME
Northern Maine Real Estate-Aroostook County Broker

The keeping a large site protected from spam, from peak overload, to update the software and keep your eagle eye on the SEO would be a full time job for a team Fred Griffin. But as far as if you or I or any AR individual or team owned it, what would we do. First order, the entire feature page would be first time, never got the gold star. This would spur the new blogger to participate and be recognized, attract new bloggers in the same boat to connect. Now there is a sea of sameness. In fact the same blogger more than once on a given day. Then I would have a side bar for quick flavors of quick and easy, hit and run on Better Listing Tips, What Buyers Want, What Sellers Need, Social Media, Blogging 101, Websites, Videos, etc as the primary new and fresh daily rather than hit or miss and taking lots of time scanning, digging, trying to find worthwhile reads and not just market reports although those have their place too.

Jan 17, 2018 07:14 AM
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Michael J. Perry
KW Elite - Lancaster, PA
Lancaster, PA Relo Specialist

I would hire the Clown for Customer Relations

Jan 17, 2018 03:50 AM
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Gary L. Waters, Broker Owner, Waters Realty of Brevard, LLC
Waters Realty of Brevard, LLC - Rockledge, FL
... a small office, delivering big service!

If I could afford ActiveRain I would buy a large sailboat... and drift toward the setting sun!

Jan 17, 2018 02:56 AM
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Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
Real Estate Broker

Way above my paygrade in technology for sure. Bob Stewart once did a blog explaing some of the problems that have cropped up over the years! 

Jan 16, 2018 08:14 PM
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Pete Xavier with X Group Real Estate Advocates
Investments to Luxury - Pacific Palisades, CA
Outstanding Agent Referrals-Nationwide

Zero interest.

Jan 16, 2018 07:28 PM
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Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Andover, MA
Andover, MA: Andover Luxury Homes For Sale

Fred Griffin - I just want to focus on my Real Estate business.

As of today, for last decade there is no parallel to ActiveRain in ANY industry in the world!

If things change at ActiveRain, I'll embrace it. I know these changes are for something better for all the members.

Jan 16, 2018 07:26 PM
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Dorie Dillard
Coldwell Banker United Realtors® ~ 512.346.1799 - Austin, TX
Serving Buyers & Sellers in NW Austin Real Estate

I would not even consider it! I'm in real estate and doing what I do best..listing and selling and enjoying life!! Don't need the aggravation!

Jan 16, 2018 04:27 PM
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding and Marketing

No, and I agree with Candice A. Donofrio   

Jan 16, 2018 03:20 PM
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Debbie Reynolds
Platinum Properties - Clarksville, TN
Your Dedicated Clarksville TN Real Estate Agent

I would not if it was for sale nor would spend my money that way. It needs lots of redesigning and backend work.

Jan 16, 2018 02:52 PM
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Ben DeHaven
Haven Realty & Investments - Winter Haven, FL
Proudly serving Winter Haven & Lakeland, Florida

There is a lot more to running a site like this than people think. I'd think about it, but probably not be able to run a brokerage and keep up with this. 

Jan 16, 2018 11:36 AM
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Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

I can and would give quality feedback, support & input for shares

Jan 16, 2018 11:02 AM
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Barbara Todaro
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Franklin, MA
"Franklin MA Homes"

ditto to what Candice A. Donofrio so eloquently stated....

Jan 16, 2018 10:58 AM
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Corinne Guest, Managing Broker
Barrington Realty Company - Barrington, IL
The Best in Buyer Representation

Yes I might! If I did it would become my full time job. But ya'll might not like my price increase! 

Jan 16, 2018 10:45 AM
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Maria Sapio
Berkshire Hathaway Homesale Realty - Carlisle, PA
Real Estate Agent- Carlisle, PA. Mariasapio.com

Not something I would be interested in purchasing -

Jan 16, 2018 09:47 AM
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Brian L. Sirota, Esq.
Bristar Realty (Realtor/Attorney) - Orange, CA
For Solutions: (714) 501-7660

Awesome question Fred, but I don't understand how this place is successfully monetized.    As to the tech aspect, of course Kinney has access to tech talent....it's more a question whether he cares to avail himself of it.

Jan 18, 2018 02:44 PM
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Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
www.HugginsHomes.com - Thousand Oaks, CA
Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties

No.  Ben would have to take a huge loss for me to be able to afford it at a price that makes sense for me.  Aside from that, I just don't have the bandwidth to run it... it really needs to be a full-time job.  As much as I'd like to be a figurehead CEO and make the big decisions while others do the grunt work, it wouldn't be fair to the members.  Besides, I'd want to do stupid stuff like re-write the entire site in one or two programming languages and fully document it to make updates easier.  I'd remove the product recommendation section and referral section completely since they aren't used.  Probably kill groups too for now.  Just focus on blogs and Q&A in the new system then re-introduce groups.

 

But most importantly of all, I'd get my dog and Candice A. Donofrio's dog to ride in Barbara Todaro's convertible and that would be the new company mascot photo!

Jan 17, 2018 05:22 PM
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Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

I wouldn't.  I don't have the skills, the time and I do not see the benefit of owning it.

Jan 17, 2018 05:19 AM
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Nina Hollander
RE/MAX Executive | Charlotte, NC - Charlotte, NC
Your Charlotte/Ballantyne/Waxhaw/Fort Mill Realtor

Not quite in my wheel house to do... but maybe it's something you should do, Fred, when you retire next year . It should keep you busy!

Jan 17, 2018 04:33 AM
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Inna Ivchenko
Barcode Properties - Encino, CA
Realtor® • Green • GRI • HAFA • PSC Los Angeles CA

Yes, but only if it offers right features and support. 

Jan 16, 2018 11:25 PM
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Joyce Marsh, Daytona Beach Florida
Premier Sotheby's International Realty - Daytona Beach, FL
Experts in Listing and Selling Waterfront & Luxury

I personally do not have an interest. 

Jan 16, 2018 07:28 PM
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Diana Dahlberg
1 MONTH REALTY - Kenosha, WI
Real Estate in Kenosha, WI since 1994 262-308-3563

Probably not ...

Jan 16, 2018 02:26 PM
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John Wiley
Jones & Co. Realty - Fort Myers, FL
Lee County, FL Real Estate GRI, SRES,GREEN,PSA

I do not have the tech abilities to take on such a venture.

I do not see the growth potential to make it more valuable.

 

Jan 16, 2018 12:27 PM
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Sam Shueh
(408) 425-1601 - San Jose, CA
mba, cdpe, reopro, pe

I got introduced into AR because Trulia sold my name to Kenny. I think it should be a free site using advertisements or additional features for revenue.

Redfin closed the local blog and directed to their agents and a group set up one just for the local SFBA area. They all had niocknames but I have met a few investors.   

What AR lacks in clients interactions. Hey, I am an investor looking for someone in Hollywood who can help me with my problems....

All these sites haphazardly put slapped together one can search on the WWW w/o a strong SEO expert.    

Jan 16, 2018 10:54 AM
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Nick & Trudy Vandekar, 610-203-4543
Long & Foster Real Estate Inc 610-225-7400 - Devon, PA
Tredyffrin Easttown Realtors, Philly Main Line

No, it is not my area of expertise.

Jan 16, 2018 10:47 AM
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Joe Pryor
The Virtual Real Estate Team - Oklahoma City, OK
REALTOR® - Oklahoma Investment Properties

I don't think the ROI is there.

Jan 16, 2018 10:33 AM
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Jordan Ayan
The Lifestyle Collection - Scottsdale, AZ

Having owned multiple tech companies, this is a difficult question to answer without knowing something about the financials.  However, although relatively new, I sense that some of the value that used to be on the platform in the past has gone.  I also see so many posts that offer so little value that it is questionable if AR will be able to maintain value into the future.  It seems like many people post garbage, just to get points.  This is a content driven world, if the quality of content diminishes, over time the audience will as well.  Just my humble opinion.

Jan 24, 2018 06:12 AM
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Joan Cox
Metro Brokers - House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time

No way, love real estate, and would want to continue what I love to do.  Fred, think you should - aren't you retiring in the next year?

Jan 19, 2018 02:37 PM
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Alan May
Coldwell Banker Residential - Evanston, IL
Helping you find your way home.

Why, Yes!  Yes, I would.

 

 

 

 

Oh, wait. That's not me, is it?

Jan 18, 2018 04:21 PM
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Will Hamm
Hamm Homes - Aurora, CO
"Where There's a Will, There's a Way!"

Boy I hope it is not for sale.  

Jan 18, 2018 03:53 PM
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Paul S. Henderson, REALTOR®,CRS,
RE/MAX Professionals. - Tacoma, WA
Tacoma Washington Agent/Broker & Market Authority!

Great question Fred Griffin! I always enjoy the back and forth in the comments....

Jan 18, 2018 11:52 AM
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William Feela
WHISPERING PINES REALTY - North Branch, MN
Realtor, Whispering Pines Realty 651-674-5999 No.

I would have to think about it.

Jan 17, 2018 08:33 PM
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Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel

No.

Jan 17, 2018 08:49 AM
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Greg Large
ERA Real Solutions - Grove City, OH
A Tradition of Trust

I would not,  Have tech connections but not interested in managing the endeavor.  Changes would be implemented.

Jan 17, 2018 07:05 AM
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Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
BVO Luxury Group @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty - Scottsdale, AZ
Serving Scottsdale, Phoenix and Maricopa County AZ

No

Jan 17, 2018 06:16 AM
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Tammy Lankford,
Lane Realty Eatonton, GA Lake Sinclair, Milledgeville, 706-485-9668 - Eatonton, GA
Broker GA Lake Sinclair/Eatonton/Milledgeville

no

Jan 16, 2018 11:29 AM