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'Stealing' a Property

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Mortgage and Lending with LINCOLN MORTGAGE

Several of the realtors that have referred prospective buyers to me have voiced concern and frustration due to lowball offers. These are professionals who have done their best to advise clients that such offers will not be accepted, and, maybe not even countered. Yet the perception persists that a property can be 'stolen' due to market conditions. A young buyer I qualified lost out on a HUD home for that very reason. The realtor told him there was much interest in the property. Yet he chose to go in low on a home that was tailor-made for him. It had location, proximity to his shop, a large yard backing up to woods, and a work garage with a brezeway connection into the mudroom. Perfect for a construction worker. He lost the bid, as I'm sure you guessed.  The home had been listed at $135,000. The people who got the home bid $137,000 with 3% closing costs back from the bank. My guy was convinced he could get the house for $10,000 under, so he bid $129,000 and asked for the same 3% concession. The difference is probably about $30 a month in payment. Now he's out looking for a house that has all the amenties the first one had! Out looking with a very exasporated realtor, I might add.

I'm seeing this more and more on the low end stuff. We all know that its one thing to bid $20-30,000 under on a $300-400,000 listing. Its another matter to bid $20,000 low on a $120,000-140,000 property. And then ask the seller to pay closing costs to boot!

Here's what I've been telling these buyers. First, yes, your Uncle Louie may be correct when he tells you that you can underbid and 'steal' a property. But what you, Mr. Buyer, must realize, is that the property that you could possibly steal may not be the one you want!

I go on to explain that the home the young buyer desires, close to the mall, with good school systems, nice neighborhood, etc.... will be desirable to other buyers FOR THE SAME REASONS!

I tell them to leave the 'stealing' to the investor purchaser, who is looking for the best bang for the buck, who doesn't care about school systems or neighborhoods because, of course, he's not going to live there. Such a buyer is in a totally different situation than you, Mr. Buyer. He can lowball, and, if rejected, can either go higher or simply move on to the next one. His kids may not ever even SEE the place, much less walk to the store or ballfield or go to the school, as your children would, Mr. Buyer. Then, of course, I tell them that its their choice, but, if this is the house they want, and if they're expecting that seller to pick up some $6-7,000 in closing costs, they may want to come in with a solid offer.

 

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Karen Rice Keller Williams Real Est
Keller Williams Real Estate - Hawley, PA
Northeast PA & Lake Wallenpaupack Home Sales

He only bid $10,000 under?  That's good.  LOL.  I have had customers come in at nearly 50% under asking price - when the house was priced at darn near market value to begin with!

One gentleman called me and asked about a property he saw listed for $169,900.  He asked me how flexible the sellers were.

"Well sir, they're not my clients so I don't know their situation.  I know the house and it's probably a little on the high side, but still not priced too far off."

"OK - tell the seller this.  I'll pay him $55,000 CASH!"

As if - "cash" is going to make ALL things OK.

I wish I had been nervy enough to say "Oh, he'll love that downpayment; what is the offer price going to be?"  LOL

 

Apr 22, 2009 06:09 AM
David Henke
Long & Foster Real Estate, Inc - Newtown Square, PA
Realtor, Homes Just West of Philadelphia PA

Well said.  Nobody is looking to give away their properties.  In many cases the listing price is already a great "deal", but sometimes a buyer has to lose before they understand.

Apr 22, 2009 06:12 AM
Michael A. Caruso
Surterre Properties - Laguna Niguel, CA

Good information. Still need to make a fair offer!

Please remember me if you learn of anyone moving to "The OC" and I will do the same!

 Michael Caruso, Broker ABR ABRM CRB CRS GREEN GRI

2007 President, Orange County Association of Realtors           

(949) 753-7900

Apr 22, 2009 06:53 AM
MARTY HANCOCK
LINCOLN MORTGAGE - Sewell, NJ

Wow, Karen,

That story tops all, and I've heard some good ones. I'm not sure what I'd have said were I in your shoes. I may have just slammed the phone against the desk a few times.

How did you respond? Was it printable?

Marty

Apr 23, 2009 12:56 AM
MARTY HANCOCK
LINCOLN MORTGAGE - Sewell, NJ

David,

That's exactly right. They've got to be burnt once to realize that you can't squeeze blood from a stone.

Unfortunately, I don't foresee this misguided young man finding another property that fits his needs so well. Especially in that price range.

Maybe Uncle Louie can find one for him.

Apr 23, 2009 01:02 AM