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Do You Qualify for a Short Sale?

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Real Estate Agent with Coldwell Banker Vanguard Realty - 904-673-2308

Do You Qualify for a Short Sale?The original concept of a short sale is when a home sells for less than the mortgage(s) on it. The homeowner may or may not sign a promissory note or bring money to closing. Many homeowners in Orange Park and Fleming Island have not one, but two or three mortgages, including a home equity line of credit.  You may be considering a short sale, but the question is - Do You Qualify for a Short Sale? Not every Clay County homeowner does insofar as no financial penalty. Here's the thing:

The rules for short sales keep changing

If a home is not sold as a short sale and goes into foreclosure, all the mortgages may be wiped out except first mortgage, so any second or third mortgages may be a total loss to their respective bank.  Second and third mortgages are often held by different banks from the first mortgage. A year ago a second mortgage would accept from zero dollars up to $1000 payment and agree to a short sale. So would home equity lines of credit. Not now. 

Today, the second lien holder often demands $3000-5000 from the first mortgage bank to agree to a short sale, and they may demand sellers sign a note agreeing to pay back a portion of the loan. Banks have figured out a way to recoup some of their huge losses by demanding some cash now and a promise to pay later. Additionally, some homeowners are also required to bring money to the closing if the bank determines they are in a financial position to do so.

Please note that if a prior promissory note has been signed on any of the mortgages, the bank can still come after the parties and obtain a judgment after the sale. A breach of contract has a long time period, so it can be years after the short sale that the bank can still come after the borrower. This is important to negotiate at the time of the short sale to have this waived.

It is not part of this discussion, but one of the comments mentioned liens that survive a foreclosure. There are liens that do, such as Federal tax liens, child support liens and construction liens. Check with professional legal/financial counsel for others. The liens for the purpose of this discussion are the mortgage liens.

So who qualifies for a short sale?

Homeowners with a genuine hardship who owe more money than their home is worth due to: job loss, medical reasons, divorce, or relocation that deplete a home owner's assets are considered by banks to be genuine hardship. In this instance, a bank will typically agree to a short sale and not demand cash at closing or a promissory note (but that doesn't mean prior promissory notes signed at the time of the loan may not come up later - this has to be negotiated to be waived).

So who may not qualify for a penalty-free short sale?

1. Homeowners who realize their home is worth less than what they paid and they just don't want to make the payments anymore.

2. Homeowners who have significant assets and income.

3. Homeowners who have bought a second home.

4. Investors.

Please note that there are always exceptions and in some areas banks may be more lenient with negotiating due to the number of short sales and foreclosures in those markets. The observations here are what we are seeing in our market. There are situations where the borrower who can be in the investor, second home, significant assets, or just upside and wants out category walks away with little or no money out of pocket or without signing a promissory note, but in our market and our experience, this is an exception.

Homeowners who qualify for a short sale as of now will usually not be asked by the bank to execute promissory notes for any balance owed. Homeowners who do not qualify for a penalty-free short sale may be required to either sign promissory notes and/or bring cash to closing or the property will go into foreclosure.

What should you do if you are behind in your payments?

If you are behind in your payments, call your bank(s) and keep communications open. Ask to speak to someone in the Loss Mitigation Department. You may qualify for a loan modification or another program. Seek the advice of your financial adviser, accountant and attorney to give you all the information about your particular situation.

Contact an experienced short sale real estate professional to determine what your home may sell for. You may contact us for a consultation and for referrals to legal and financial professionals.

So should you do a short sale or not?

Short sales affect your credit for two years. After two years, you may buy a home again. Foreclosures impact your credit for five Do You Qualify for a Short Sale?years. Bankruptcy has a more negative impact than a short sale also. Donna Bigda has written an excellent post covering this subject.

About 20% of homes on Fleming Island on the market are short sales or bank owned and 38% of homes in Orange Park are short sales or bank owned, so you're not alone in the decisions you are facing. Once you speak with the bank and other advisers, including an experienced short sale real estate agent, you will have enough information to make a good decision. Give us a call at 904-673-2308 if you want to get together to see if we can help you navigate a short sale.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Please note: The information in this article is the opinion of the author, based on her personal experience, the experience of colleagues,  research on the subject and courses attended by the author. As stated in the article, the rules are constantly changing. Any person considering a short sale is advised, as it says in the article, to seek professional counsel including legal advice and financial/tax advice. Every individual's situation is different and this article is no substitute for professional counsel.


 

 

 

 

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Comments (93)

Anonymous
Michael Bergin
Thanks for the refresher. I learn or am reminded of different aspects of the short sale every time I read one of these posts about a short sale. Nice job.
Apr 27, 2009 04:35 AM
#78
Sharon Alters
Coldwell Banker Vanguard Realty - 904-673-2308 - Fleming Island, FL
Realtor - Homes for Sale Fleming Island FL

Donna, thanks! And ditto to you for link love!

Katerina, it is a good discussion, isn't it?

Lynda, thank you!

Mayra, yes we are seeing that here also.

Ronnie, yes I think Sally Cheeseman wrote about that. Hopefully you can get that reversed!

Ryan, 2nd lienholders usually will negotiate, if they get some $$.

Martin @ Weichert, I have heard of attorneys who can delay the foreclosure for up to a year demanding documents that many times the bank can't produce because the loan has been sold - sometimes multiple times. I do wish more loan modifications were being done so people could stay in their homes.

Carole, that is a great point. Thanks!

Gene, Yes. Countrywide is widely held as the most difficult bank to work with.

Daniel @ Elite, True. It is critical to educate buyers at the beginning so they will wait. But when the bank comes back with a ridiculous counter, which has happened, sometimes they walk anyway.

Harrison, thank you. We would like for homeowners to be able to stay in their homes with loan modifications.

Michael, you're welcome.

 

 

Apr 27, 2009 05:57 AM
Sharon Alters
Coldwell Banker Vanguard Realty - 904-673-2308 - Fleming Island, FL
Realtor - Homes for Sale Fleming Island FL

Josef,  didn't know exactly how to respond to your comment, so I went on your blog to see who you were.

In your comment to me, you wrote: 'your "qualifications" for a short sale are incorrect.  There are no "hardships" required.'

This is an excerpt from your post entitled "The Credit Collapse-What went wrong, and how it pertains to Short Sales' on 1/14/2009:

"Steps to a Short Sale

The following steps are a condensed version of how to complete a typical short sale.

 Step One is determining if you are eligible for a short sale.  There are some misconceptions about who qualifies, and the answer is simply, anyone that can demonstrate any kind of "hardship."  Hardships can include sickness, loss or reduction of income, divorce, upward adjusting payments, or simply a need to sell.  The common denominator is a lack of equity to pay selling costs and the full mortgage balance due to depressed property value.  The seller may or may not be currently delinquent on their mortgage, and the much mentioned "fact" that a seller must be delinquent to be granted a short sale is simply not true."

 

Apr 27, 2009 05:59 AM
Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
Real Estate Broker Retired

Great information and a great post. Congrats on the feature in the newsletter.

Apr 27, 2009 08:27 AM
matt mathews
mathews Realty Group - Yucaipa, CA

I always enjoy reading posts, comments and opinions here on Active Rain about Short Sales, and REO's.  As an Agent who specializes in working mostly with Investors, I have had the opportunity to tap into and learn some of the new strategies and techniques being used.  With that said;  my only suggestion and advice to you my peers is to re-educate yourself about Short Sales.  The process has changed dramatically in that the Hardship letter has been replaced by the HUD 1 statement!!!  The Investor holding the notes only want to know one thing!  Show me the money!!!!  Ironically,  the weakest document in most agents short sale package is the HUD 1. Don't think for a minute that the Title Company knows what they are doing.If you learn how to tweek the numbers on the Hud 1 and make it stand out as the most important document in your short sale package-it will speed through the system with ease. 

Apr 27, 2009 09:46 AM
Sharon Alters
Coldwell Banker Vanguard Realty - 904-673-2308 - Fleming Island, FL
Realtor - Homes for Sale Fleming Island FL

Lyn, thank you!

Matt, this is a pay it forward attitude that Active Rain is so famous for. Thank you!

Apr 27, 2009 10:14 AM
Anonymous
Anonymous

Todd:

Great post! It only touches on the basics of a Short Sale. Good Information. I have been doing “Shorties” as I call them for years. I do a two step listing. I go to the home do my basics and obtain the Lender Information as well as the Listing Agreement. I have a Short Sale Addendum to the listing Agreement. The Addendum states will it will be advertises as a Short Sale and what Conditions must be met. I send the Listing Agreement to the Lenders as Well as the Letter of Hardship and last two Seller’s pay stubs etc… and get them to agree as well on a separate Agreement, which is Addendum #2 to the listing ( Lenders Addendum to the Listing for a Short Sale. This works out really well for me. I do a lot of Shorts and it works. By the way I’m usually a critic of most Blogs but, hey way to go. See ya at the TOP! I give you an IQ Score of 190.

Anonymous because you would not believe who I’am.

Apr 27, 2009 12:10 PM
#84
Anonymous
Anonymous

Just got word! Sold -Pending 5 Shorts over the phone, took4 days from start to acceptance from all parties. That's listing to Contract to Pending 4 days. You can not beat that with a stick. Commission earned $35,000. Closing next week. Not Bad for 4 days worth of work!

Anonymous because you would not believe who I’am

Apr 27, 2009 03:05 PM
#85
Anonymous
Anonymous

Matt:

How do you tweek a HUD-1? Sounds like someone may loose his Licensure? HUD-1 is what it is you can not tweek it! I've been doing this stuff for years and years. Tweek? Maybe they'll call you The Tweeker in the State Pen doing Five -Ten. Dumb Thought! or maybe you just did not exspress yourself well?

Apr 27, 2009 03:18 PM
#86
Kelsey Barklow
Hurd Realty - Johnson City, TN
423/948-9154

Good post on short sales. I read it pretty quickly but did you discuss that the banks say they will issue a 1099 to the sellers who will need to claim the difference as income? I had heard that the government was forgiving this but have not done my research on it yet. Does anyone know about this?

Apr 27, 2009 03:54 PM
Sharon Alters
Coldwell Banker Vanguard Realty - 904-673-2308 - Fleming Island, FL
Realtor - Homes for Sale Fleming Island FL

Kelsey - Great question - there are some people who will not have to pay taxes (on personal residences) but I have read that everyone gets a 1099. This is an area that I would leave to an accountant and be sure to advise a seller to speak to one. That would be a topic for a future post!

Apr 27, 2009 04:12 PM
Vickie Nagy
Coldwell Banker Residential Real Estate - Palm Springs, CA
Vickie Jean the Palm Springs Condo Queen

Congratuation on this excellent, very informative and comprehensive post. It was a pleasure to read...and agree.

Apr 27, 2009 04:51 PM
Pat Haddad, ABR, CRS, ePRO, GRI
Keller Williams Indianapolis Metro NE - Carmel, IN
Carmel, Fishers, Westfield IN Real Estate Expert

We REALTORS may be the last kind voice these sellers hear regarding their homes.  The banks are so swamped, it isn't that they don't care, it is almost as if they don't have time to care.  The more informed we are, the more helpful we can be.  This was a very informative post.  Thanks!

Apr 28, 2009 01:06 AM
matt mathews
mathews Realty Group - Yucaipa, CA

In response to my comment about TWEEKING the HUD 1!  from an anonymous contributor here.  Let me say that I acquired that word in reference to the HUD 1. from a video webinar sponsored by the largest Broker/Owner of Coldwell Banker franchises in the country.  On that Video, he interviewed an Investor who is buying and closing on more than 50 short sale properties a month.  The whole presentation was "HOW TO TWEEK YOUR HUD 1"  I won't go into detail here, but I can assure you that it is not illegal.  The facts are;  Over 90% of HUD 1's prepared by Title Companys are inacurate and incomplete.  Enough said!  

A little knowledge and education goes along way.  Hopefully, your next comments will have a name attached to them.? 

Apr 28, 2009 08:04 AM
Sharon Alters
Coldwell Banker Vanguard Realty - 904-673-2308 - Fleming Island, FL
Realtor - Homes for Sale Fleming Island FL

Vicky, thanks!

Pat, it is indeed a tough time for the sellers. I spoke with a lady yesterday and I could hear the anguish in her voice, the pressure, and the just wanting to get it over with.

Matt, don't know who that commenter was but there could be an entire book written on this subject. One thing I will add is - make sure the HUD 1 has a date far enough out to include the time it takes to get the process done. If the date passes and taxes, insurance, interest change, well, then you're having to renegotiate part of the sale and depending on how many parties have to approve it, it takes time.

Apr 28, 2009 09:51 AM
Mike Henderson
Your complete source for buying HUD homes - Littleton, CO
HUD Home Hub - 303-949-5848

The only thing that is constant with short sales is constant change.

Apr 29, 2009 07:06 AM
Anna "Banana" Kruchten
HomeSmart Real Estate - Phoenix, AZ
602-380-4886

Amen to that one Mike!

 

Wow.......this conversation is still going on.  Wow!

Apr 29, 2009 07:19 AM
Sharon Alters
Coldwell Banker Vanguard Realty - 904-673-2308 - Fleming Island, FL
Realtor - Homes for Sale Fleming Island FL

Mike - You are so right. The only thing we are guaranteed is change!

Anna - Yes, it has been a rather lively discussion!

May 01, 2009 11:08 AM
Mirela Monte
Buyers' Choice Realty - North Myrtle Beach, SC
Myrtle Beach Real Estate

Sharon and Frank: It would take a week like this one for me to not notice a great post such as this one.  You did a great job with the subject!  I just re-blogged it.

It is now featured on the Optimist Group.  Thank you for your fine work!

May 02, 2009 01:26 PM
Nathan Watanabe
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices - Las Vegas, NV

That is a good explanation on a problem that is affecting a lot of people and with so many different variables and situations for each Short Sale (owner occ, investor, lenders, 1st and 2nds same lender, different lenders etc). Thank you for the helpful information.

May 03, 2009 05:54 AM