Possible Scam Using the HUD Name.

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with Crossroads Real Estate LLC
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I just called the HUD office they say they never heard of this company and they do not have an office in this location.  I think it is a scam.


Name:    Damon Francis
Phone:    800-880-8584 x1183
Comments:    Hello Dennis, We have people coming to us looking to purchase property in your area. We send all of these people to only one exclusive real estate agent per county they are looking to move into. We are currently looking to fill some openings in your area. Since we only work with one agent in each county we are filling these openings on a first come first serve basis. If you would like some information on this and how we could generate you extra business please feel free to contact me. Thank you, Damon Francis USHUD National Rep 800-880-8584 x1183 443-837-1183 65 Old Solomons Island Road Annapolis, MD 21401

Does anyone have any other info on HUD?  I know you can register right on the official HUD site.

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Rainmaker
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Bill Gillhespy
16 Sunview Blvd - Fort Myers Beach, FL
Fort Myers Beach Realtor, Fort Myers Beach Agent - Homes & Condos

Hi Dennis,  Sounds like a new variation on an exclusive leads program.  Do you think they are impersonating a federal official ?

May 05, 2009 03:30 AM #1
Rainmaker
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Heather the Realtor Orlando, Lake Mary
LemonTree Realty - Orlando, FL
First Time Home Buyers, Bank Owned Homes

Yeah I have had that call before it's just another one of those lame attempts at a lead generation system but they think if they use HUD it will get more people.

May 05, 2009 03:32 AM #2
Rainmaker
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Bill Ladewig
LoanOfficerSchool.com - Escondido, CA
Experience Is Your Advantage

Hi Dennis, it is just another low life lead company.  I really dislike this type of advertising.  I guess I should explain "low life lead company".  Not all lead companies are low life, just most of them.

May 05, 2009 03:32 AM #3
Rainmaker
223,195
Dennis Herman
Crossroads Real Estate LLC - Waldo, WI
Dennis Herman

Does anyone know of a good lead company that does supply leads?  I track my web site hits and the MLS auto e-mails that are opened in addition to the MLS sales stats.  People are looking, they are just not buying.  I doubt if any lead service can change the numbers and supply good leads in this market.

May 05, 2009 03:47 AM #4
Rainer
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Larry and Patricia Carlson
ALTERA Real Estate - San Juan Capistrano, CA

Hi Dennis,

Thanks for the update. I just Googled Damon Francis, www.ushud.com and found you and the others. I just received Damon's note as did all the others. What a piece of work he is! I hate when this happens!

May 06, 2009 06:57 AM #6
Anonymous
Alice Moore

Thank you ActiveRain!    Without your Forums and Blogs I would not have checked.   I received an email today and decided to just check it out by googling it and found your blog site.      I am always suspicous of these types of emails and now am finding that they come up way to often for my liking.  This just confirms my beliefs that there are way too many scams out there and we all need to check them out before preceeding.

May 28, 2009 03:47 AM #7
Anonymous
Russell Thomae

I was initially contacted via my website. 

It seems to me that he is misleading the public  by not providing adequate disclosure.  I can't figure out if he is a licensed Realtor / Broker or exactly what he or his intety does with the exception of soliciating Realtors and Mortgage bankers for leads..  If he or anyone associated with that company holds a license affiliated the our industry, they can be in trouble.

Also to answer one of your questions, I've used MOVOTO and have received several leads.  However, the leads suck!  Not qualified, they lie about working with a Realtor and Movoto wants a 30% Ref fee.  Not to mention they want a weekly update report ect.... Never closed one... And I"M A CLOSER!  I've been in this business long enough to know if a "customer" does not return 3 messages or a couple of emails.... It's time to move on.  Any way, below is the info.

 

Russell,
    We are far from a scam.  We have been in business for ten 10 years here in Maryland.  We currently have 3-4500 agents and loan officers using our service.  We own ushud.com, allhud.net, and hudexchange.com  Feel free to check it out because we are legit my friend.

Damon Francis
USHUD National Rep
800-880-8584 ext. 1183
443-837-1183
65 Old Solomons Island Rd
Annapolis, MD 21401

Russell Thomae wrote:

I'm very familiar with HUD and the employees at Southwest Alliance they have never heard of you or your company and they do not have an office in this location. 

If you ever contact me again, I will take the appropriate actions.

 

Russell

 

Hello Russell, We have people coming to us looking to purchase property in your area. We send all of these people to only one exclusive real estate agent per county they are looking to move into. We are currently looking to fill some openings in your area. Since we only work with one agent in each county we are filling these openings on a first come first serve basis. If you would like some information on this and how we could generate you extra business please feel free to contact me. Thank you, Damon Francis USHUD National Rep 800-880-8584 x1183 443-837-1183 65 Old Solomons Island Road Annapolis, MD 21401

Jun 04, 2009 09:51 AM #8
Rainmaker
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Dennis Herman
Crossroads Real Estate LLC - Waldo, WI
Dennis Herman

Russell

 

My exact thoughts.  I guess great minds do think alike.

We all know our best leads come from personal contact, being ourselves.  I just filled up with gas, paid at the pump and went in to talk with the owner.  It seems he is buying 4-5 stations a year.  I offered my services.  Opportunities are everywhere.  Why pay Internet sharks???????

Jun 04, 2009 01:25 PM #9
Rainer
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Vance Remele
Georgia Elite Realty - Cartersville, GA

Here is the real skinny about these companys and how they get there leads...
 
Lead companies seldom generate quality leads.

You have, no doubt, seen lead companies claiming they have target market leads for your business. They target very generally, to produce massive numbers of leads for their own profit, not yours. All seven points here are lies you are literally being sold.
If you have any doubt, book mark this page in your favorites, and investigate each point. These are only a few reasons to generate your own leads.

Lead Generation Company Lie #1. "We Generate Target Market Leads."

For example, some lead companies place pop up ads on massive corporate investment web sites. People looking to invest a very small amount of money see a pop up ad that says "Earn $5,000 per month from home" and opt in, out of hope and curiosity. The lead is targeted to anyone who will enter their information, and then sold to you.

Does that sound like someone looking for a business, or someone who's attention was diverted by fading momentary interest?

Lead Generation Company Lie #2. "We Generate Leads."

The truth is, there are only a handful of lead companies that generate leads, and they are generally very poor quality. The others, buy their leads from them, and re-sell them to you. They, in fact, never generated the "Lead".

Lead Generation Company Lie #3. "Our Leads Are Fresh, 24 Hours Old, Or Less!"

The lead was actually just sold to the company 24 hours ago from another lead company. It could be days, weeks, or months old. Make sure to read all of the details about how the company obtained the lead to begin with.

Lead Generation Company Lie #4. "Leads Are Not Incentivised."

Incentivised means the lead company claims that they did not offer a cash payment, or gift, to the person who become a lead. They are actually posing as a survey company that promises to pay people, for filling out surveys. First, people are asked to fill in their information, so checks can be mailed to them, for surveys taken. After filling out a survey, the lead company informs the survey taker that they will not be paid, unless they sign up for a certain number of offers on a questionnaire. A good example is this:

"Would you like to work from home?" The survey taker checks the box to be paid, and their information is sent to you as a lead. They often have no idea of what just happened, or why you contacted them.

Was the "Lead" incentivised? What do you think?

Lead Generation Company Lie #5. "Company Specific Leads"

Let's say in this example your home business sells vacations. The lead company tells you that their $10 lead is targeted to people that will be interested in vacations. What that really means is, an advertisement was put in a place of interest to people looking for a vacation package, that also sells advertising space to a lead company. The ad placed on the site claims the person can get paid to take vacations, instead of purchasing one, and the shopper opts in.

Is that really a company specific lead?

Lead Generation Company Lie #6. "There Are Millions Of People Looking For A Home Business Every Day."

The truth is, there ARE people looking home businesses every day, but, there are thousands, not millions. Most leads are just the same people falling for these gimmicks, over and over. That's the reason why most home business owners fail. They go broke sorting through costly, poor quality, "Leads".

Is that what you want? Of course not.

Lead Generation Company Lie #7. "We Will Give You 10 Free Leads To Test Our Quality"

A lead company tells you that they will give you 10 leads for trying their leads. What they don't tell you is that when you give them your information, you just became a lead.

The bottom line is, lead companies CAN generate quality leads. However, they never will, because their profit comes from selling millions of poor quality leads. If they were to generate millions of good leads, their employees would use them, quit their jobs, and join a business!
 

Apr 18, 2010 10:57 AM #10
Rainer
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Rick Schuster
Jaycee Realty, Inc. - Boca Raton, FL

Thanks for the info everyone.  I was just contacted by USHUD and/or their affiliate.  I'm glad I viewed this blog!

Dec 13, 2010 04:07 AM #11
Rainmaker
223,195
Dennis Herman
Crossroads Real Estate LLC - Waldo, WI
Dennis Herman

Rick, the best method lead generation ahs always been referrals.   Which reminds me, I should send out Christmas cards today.  A new one I just ran across in on Homes.com.  You can send out requests for referrals to your contacts and customers.  I is all in who you know.  No sense in paying for leads.  Or is it no cents? 

Dec 13, 2010 06:37 AM #12
Anonymous
Tammy Starr

I fell for the USHud.com scam.  They contacted me to sign up with their service because they had so many buyers that already have a home of their choice picked out that they want to see but their closet agent was 2 counties away which is close to a 2 hour driving distance.  They told me that if I signed up for their service that they would be sending me leads immediately and I would be featured on their web-site as their sole, preferred agent.  It was on a Tuesday, the end of business day pretty much when I gave them my credit card and by Thursday I tried to check out the links that came in an email but I received a message that my account was deactivated so I contacted USHUD.com and they told me that I did not need a password by Friday.  By Monday, I started to become suspicious and I went to their web-site as a buyer may do and put in my county and another local agent's contact information showed up.  I realized at that point that I had been scammed and I asked USHud.com to refund my money because they did not give me what they promised me for my money and they refused to do so and if you call them then you'll get a receptionist that will connect you to a voice-mail and you'll find yourself going in circles.  I am disputing their charge with my bank but how consuming and how sneaky of USHUD.com . If you are thinking or have been thinking about signing up with USHud.com THINK AGAIN and don't confuse them with HUD.org as they would like you to.

May 11, 2011 01:36 PM #13
Rainer
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Grace Balanquit
RE/MAX Real Estate Services - Columbia, SC

I was also contact by the same company. I was burn once with other lead generation company and didnt do my research. This time I learn my lesson well. Dennis thank you for posting this and all the other feedback. This just confirm my suspicious that it is a scam.

Dec 16, 2011 11:35 PM #16
Anonymous
Mary Norris, Remax

I am doing my research now to find out more about USHUD.com. They had a very good salesperson contact me. They offered three counties for the price of one. I am wondering if anyone else has really given them a chance? Is Ms. Star's experience typical or the norm? I do have some luck with Trulia, Realtor and Zillow. I really work my leads. Should I give them a try or stay away?

Apr 09, 2013 12:46 AM #17
Rainmaker
223,195
Dennis Herman
Crossroads Real Estate LLC - Waldo, WI
Dennis Herman

I look at it this way.... anyone who tries to copy the name of another outfit has something up their sleeve.  They are trying to market on a well known name, not by superior services they can offer. 

Apr 09, 2013 01:29 AM #18
Rainer
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Nicholas Bowman
House Calls Realty - Englewood, CO
Littleton Agent

Just got an email from these guys and asked them what the deal was and if I could get a Denver County Real Estate lead.. Here was the reply.

"Everything runs on a MONTH to MONTH basis without contracts.. From there, it is only $195/month per county you exclusively own. You keep 100% of your commission! My goal is to have you work with 15-25 new buyers with NO MAX every month! Since my clients close 1 out of 8 buyers we send, I intend on you adding 1-2 closings to what you are already closing per month."

 

It sounds great but they are kind of trying to pretend they are US backed.  The web page only has a page rank of 1. I think I will pass.

Nick

Apr 11, 2013 02:37 AM #19
Anonymous
Belinda

I had great success with househunt.com for leads, left them for zillow as they offered better pricing just cancelled zillow crap leads and not very many for the zip they gave me. I will be getting back with househunt if I choose to buy leads again.

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