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The Buyer's Market: It's Over-Rated

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Real Estate Agent with eXp Realty of California, Inc. CA DRE #01490977

Are you calling it a buyer's market?The media has been telling us it's a buyer market for some time. The real estate community talks about it too. Everyone seems to believe it.

I think the Buyer's Market is over-rated. 

Before you get your britches in a bunch, hear me out. 

  • Saying it's a buyer's market, as a general rule, overlooks those markets, and niches, where this is clearly not the case.

 

  • Calling it a buyer's market gives buyers a false sense of security. They think they are always in the driver's seat, calling all the shots, and can get homes for 10%, 20% or more off the market value. Not always so.

 

  • It suggests that homes are sitting around waiting for buyers (yep there are plenty out there) to make any offer, and that sellers are desperate and will relinquish their homes for whatever the buyers are willing to pay. Buyers won't have to compete, and they can afford to take their time making a decision since inventory isn't moving until the buyers make it move. Again, not always so.

For Sale SignsGranted, there are plenty of markets where the inventory is high and the demand low, where buyers can be pretty choosy, and prices are still falling. Some markets are pretty crappy right now. I remember being told that less than 6 months inventory was a seller's market, 6 months or so was a balanced market, and 8 or more months indicated a buyer's market - it was in a CRS class, and I think NAR also cites these numbers. Perhaps. But it ain't that simple. Not anymore. 

It seems that "Buyer's Market" just doesn't work all that well to classify our current market, perhaps the most difficult in decades, except in the most general sort of way. And it deludes buyers in some market areas and niches (e.g., the least expensive homes or REOs) into thinking they will get a great deal...easily, with little effort and on their terms.

Consider the REOs - we now see many offers (sometimes 15-20) on these, often within a day of the home coming on the market, and commonly many are over asking price (maybe not true in your area but becoming far more common here in SoCal). As someone with multiple buyers who have been through this drill several times and who are frustrated, and disappointed...is this niche a buyer's market? Nope, at least not in their minds. 

And how about non-distress homes we are seeing with multiple offers. I had one just a few weeks ago (within 24 hours there were well more than 10 offers, many over asking - fortunately my buyers lucked out, but the sellers had the luxury of picking which offer they wanted to pursue). And it's happening elsewhere...an article in the Los Angeles Times makes this point very clear. 

We need to truly understand our particularly markets and individual niches so we do not mislead buyers into a false sense of security or have them make decisions based on misinformation. If we can't communicate what is going on we lose credibility, and aren't providing any greater value to buyers than when they simply make decisions based on what they read in the papers. 

Calling it a buyer's market is the easy way out. Everyone "knows" what you mean, and you don't have to understand the realities of the market nor explain it when folks ask.

I still say the buyer's market is over-rated! I suspect some folks may agree.

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Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

Teri - we are seeing the same thing with sell priced homes, but the issue of appraisals coming in lower is very real.

Lenn - similar trend in your area, and many others it appears.

Hugo - I am not totally opposed to calling it, in general, a buyer's market. It's just that that term oversimplifies the reality in many area, at least where I am, and misleads buyers. But in terms of interest rates, inventory and other issues the market certainly presents good opportunities for buyers.

Jeff

May 06, 2009 03:14 AM
Bartley Wilson
Virtual Pictures Corp. (VPiX) - Monument, CO
VR Software and 360° Solutions

Yep, good article and many good points here, Jeff.

I started in real estate in 1987 fresh out of the air force. There was nothing electronic about the business back then. No computers. No Internet. No HomeGain. No Lending Tree. No Lead Sharks calling me asking for 25% of my commission. Gas was cheap and we were all part time taxi drivers, part time sales people.

Buyers Markets. Sellers Markets. There are ups and downs in any cycle. I think that most REALTORS would agree with me that this Buyers Market has been one of the most painful on record because it has made us change the way we HAD to work, as opposed to WANT to. 

The market of homes with the prices we witnessed was simply over inflated. It was bound to pop sooner or later. 

How can anyone seriously think that any home as an investment could sustain double digit growth for any long period of time? It's stupid and wishful thinking at best. In August 2007, the bubble popped. We all wake up one day and we find that HALF of our mortgage/lending sources dried up.

Who's to blame (if you want to play the BLAME game here)? It's the predatory lenders who inflated people's earnings. Firms like Novelty Pay Stub firms allowed people to show stated income fraudulently. People bought bigger homes and couldn't afford them. Banks traded currencies and flipped mortgages like pancakes to anxious banks in Japan and Europe. We wake up one day to find out that Europe and most of the world community blames America for the melt down and they are 100% correct. Americans alone created the financial boo-boo we are all in now. 

The movie Wall Street, while filmed in the late 80's had a good point to drive, GREED was at the root of the entire meltdown and is the single reason why we are in this Buyers' Market now and it was entirely unnecessary. No government regulations on banks or on Wall Street were in place. 

Day Traders have secret PROFIT RINGS out there. Just like other secret societies like the Bilderberg Group who's membership has affected the trading of world currencies, politics, banks and fixing the price of oil and affecting how economies are allowed to rise or fall.  Secret Day Trader rings go far beyond just giving tips and financial advice. They provide illegal, insider information and like packs of dogs they work under an Alpha to attack and destroy a handful of stocks at one time. They accomplish this by all agreeing to sell or buy one set of stocks for a particular week in order to affect or influence millions of dollars by then going long on some stocks and short selling other stocks.  Then they take their profits and move onto the next kill. 

All in the name of GREED. And the government has turned a blind eye to this for years. 

In my opinion, the US Government needs to put a stop to the ability to speculate on some stocks such as real estate securities and oil. Stick to pork bellies, frozen concentrated orange juice, coffee beans and penny stocks. The price we pay for a gallon of gas today, should be the price we pay for it tomorrow. If we remove the ability for the Day Trader Secret Societies to manipulate the price of oil and attack markets in packs to drive up or drive down the price of a stock -- the World is going to be a more stable place and will be a huge factor in seeing this economic recession end sooner rather than later. 

Because several Day Trader Secret Associations were the ones responsible for the $4 dollar per gallon prices last Summer. Thanks to eTrade, Scott Trade, AmeriTrade and many other firms that allow ordinary people to buy and sell stock, it is these firms that have allowed the creation of these Day Trader secret societies to form in order to manipulate prices on Wall Street. 

-- bart wilson 

 

 

May 06, 2009 03:16 AM
Jason Daley
Bremerton, WA
Kitsap County Real Estate, Bremerton, WA Real Estate

Great Points Jeff - I think there are exceptions to Almost every rule, and a "Buyers Market" is too much of a blanket statement to cover all areas of the market. 

Notice I said "Almost" every rule, that's because I NEVER speak in absolutes, because there are too many niches to have 1 statement cover all situations.

And Yes, "NEVER" was a joke, a poor one maybe, but a joke none the less :)

May 06, 2009 03:21 AM
Gene Riemenschneider
Home Point Real Estate - Brentwood, CA
Turning Houses into Homes

Buers are showing up with unrealistic expectations.  It takes some time to educate them.  I point out if the price is really that good everyone else is seeing it too.

May 06, 2009 03:27 AM
Tony Hager
United Realty Texas - Denton, TX
Broker

Very good post and yes I too wish the National Media would do just that and report "National News" and stop labeling local news such as real estate as such.  It was an eye opener when someone finally did some research and found out that all the real estate problems were basically 5 states and the rest were only slightly off.

May 06, 2009 04:46 AM
Bob Firestone
bobfirestone.us - Las Vegas, NV

It is definitely a prepared and patient buyers market. There are great deals in every market for buyers who are willing to wait and put in a fair offer.

The days of being able to put offers in at 20% below asking price are over mainly because the listing prices have come down to accurately reflect current market conditions.

In Las Vegas there was a house that was listed at $130k and accepted an offer of $110k. Now, the same model in the same community is listed at $110k.

It is all relative. Compared to the asking price is today the sellers have some control and there is demand. Compared to what many of these houses sold for 2 or 3 years ago they are deals.

It all comes down to how do you define a buyers market.

May 06, 2009 05:54 AM
Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

Tammy - It seems we are seeing similar trends in many areas.

Michael - good way to look at it

Kerry - good for you. This appears to be true in many other areas, based on the comments.

Jeff

May 06, 2009 08:37 AM
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Jeff I couldn't agree with you more. Granted, the market is tougher for sellers at this time. However, I've seen and experienced more than one instance where multiple offers came into play (even in the current market). Real estate is truly NOT "one size fits all."

May 06, 2009 09:06 AM
Linda Lipscomb
Linda Lipscomb RE/MAX Lexington Henderson County TN - Lexington, TN
731-695-1118, Lexington TN Homes

Jeff,

The market is what it is, locally.

Buyers fighting over foreclosures certainly says it's not a buyers market in that area anyway.

Sellers are listening and pricing their homes correctly or removing from the market. 

Good values do sell....in most any market.

May 06, 2009 05:18 PM
Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

Lisa - Banks' Market! Yep, I would say that is tru, especially in some inaldn areas.

Realty Dot Com - guess that's true. But it's a reflection of what is happening in many markets, adn why calling it a buyer's market oversimplifies the reality.

Carol - ah, more consistency here in CA. Yep, it's all about knowing the market, as best we can.

Rich - pricing shorts - like that analogy.

Jeff

May 06, 2009 05:41 PM
Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

Lise - I find that it can be difficutl, despite what we tell folks, for them to always get it right away. Some just need to learn. And I try to point out specific examples where homes are going quickly AND at or over asking.

Svetlana - that is tru here too, even within a single community. It varies from price range, too. Hard to classify in any sort of cimple way.

Marilyn - fun to hear your comments about my old stomping grounds from 4 years ago. I think we are finding similar stories in most places in the country, to some extent, based on everyone's comments. That, is part, was the reason for the post...to get some other information out here for consumers to see and understand that the market is not necessarily how the media potrays it.

Jeff

May 06, 2009 05:47 PM
Eugénie Eckler
Right At Home Realty Inc. - Oakville, ON
Oakville, Ontario

ABSOLUTELY- you are 100% correct.

I had a buyer who thought they were in the driver's seat and that she could get things for 20% less!

That was a lesson in education :))

May 07, 2009 02:39 AM
Karen Crowson
Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage - Rancho Bernardo, CA
Your Agent for Change

I agree that the term buyer's market has been used too broadly in many cases.  I find that in our market the segment of homes that are moving are REOs and short sales, really making it a 'bank's market.'  The upper end home market is stalled with lots of inventory and very little movement.  For someone in that price range, it would truly be a buyer's market.  And the balanced market?  We're not there yet, but the middle price range has less inventory so we are starting to see additional activity there.  This is where we can really bring value to our clients.  Break those stats down for them to a very local (price range, neighborhood) level so they can understand the steps they'll need to take to achieve their goals.  Good post!

May 07, 2009 05:10 AM
Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

George - we are seeing more at more at the moment.

Norma - well said. Love the camel.

Chris - that is certainly true here in some market segments.

Shelly - inventory is different from area to area. Some places it is going up and others down. Some buyers are not realistic no matter what the market.

Jeff

May 07, 2009 12:08 PM
Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

Anna - well hopefully posts and comments like this will help get the word out. I think the media could do well to consult local experts to report real time on what is happening, not relying on general reports that are several months old.

Mary - well you have to do what they want, but that tactic just doesn;t work very well, and certainly not with most REO and short sale properties, at least in my area.  And in some areas we are seeing fewer REOs and folks are noticing the more limited inventory.

Russ - thanks for the update on Detroit. That's good news for your market.

Anna S - sounds like youhave buyers who have learned a lesson or two.

Jeff

May 07, 2009 01:41 PM
Kelsey Barklow
Hurd Realty - Johnson City, TN
423/948-9154

There may be a large inventory in our area now but sellers are not giving up as much so it's definitely NOT a buyers market here.

May 07, 2009 03:11 PM
Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

Aaron - sounds like your market is a little different. Thanks for sharing what's happening in your area.

Claudette - as I said to someone else above, it's fun to hear what is going on in my old stomping grounds. I would say the same it true here for luxury homes.

Dorie - thanks for your thoughts

Dawn - I have seen the same, as well as buyers who ralize they cannot low-ball and get the home they want.

Candace - thanks for your perspective

Lori - sounds like the Boston market ie heating up, at least in some areas.

Sharon - that is a good way to describe some markets. It is certainly a complex housing market in general

Mike - sounds like good news for the Indiannapolis market. We keep saying it to the media that RE markets are local but they don't listen very well.

Jeff

May 07, 2009 03:52 PM
Jenny Durling
L.A. Property Solutions - Los Angeles, CA
For Los Angeles real estate help 213-215-4758

I think technically a "buyer's market" means there are more properties for sale than there are buyers to buy them That would put most alot of geographic areas under that definition. However, I'm seeing the same thing in the L.A. area as most of the commenters here. Even though there is alot of inventory, well priced homes are going in multiple offers over the asking price and buyers can defenitely NOT call the shots. The higher end listings tend to languish so that feels more like a buyer's market.

May 07, 2009 06:00 PM
Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

William - amazing. Sounds like a huge waste of time. I wonder if they really got a better final offer than if they had been a bit more reasonable.

Christianne - I think we could say similar things about the seller's market when the media starts using that term regularly. That is quite a change in your inventory - good information for buyers to know.

Dan - good points. And I would say that despite the craziness we see in some segents, it is not the overall craziness of the market in 2004 - 2006.

Chris - sounds like things are heating up in your area. Best of luck on that offer.

Jeff

May 08, 2009 05:48 AM
Carrie Sampron
Home Smart Realty Group - Highlands Ranch, CO
ABR SFR & Kathy Sampron (303) 931-3629 Highlands R

Jeff:  We couldn't agree more.  Here in the Denver metro area we did not have the upswing so much so many communities have held or increased their value so "buyer's market" isn't necessary applicable here.

May 11, 2009 10:16 AM