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This was a response to a  response in one of my other blogs. I was reprimanded for being rude to another blogger and this was my resposne. It really sums up why I blog for those who care...

 

"Maybe I do need to change my style a bit. I am emphatic about what I believe in and what I see around me and in here. My passion stems from the fact that Ibelieve that I see the tru th of things. Not what I want to see or what someone else wants me to see but what is there. Personally, I really have no horse in the race.

Most of my political beliefs are based on the fact that I trust no one and belive no one is so competent as to run all of our lives. I wish our society was structured that way as to prevent anyone person or ideology to control so much of our lives. We should all  be free to make our own mistakes.

Maybe my side favors conservatism more than liberalism. I have had spats with some big Conservatives too on this forum.

My point is that what I rally against most is people who, I feel, just tow the party line. To me they are the most dangerous of them all because they are the shock troops of tyranny. Tyranny from either side, Bush or Obama.

Someone in particular, bashes Bush to justify Obama, always. She rarely says anything that is original or that I didn't hear on the morning news from some other liberal talking head. When pressed, she cannot substantiate anything she says. I have tried so many times to get her to actually debate and she will not.

I am affected by her choices. That is how it is in a democracy. I want all people to make informed wise choices. Do I always know which is the best choice? No. So I welcome others who have insights that I do not. I just wish that we, as Americans, stopped getting duped and elect thoughtful people. I also wish that we, as Americans, above all else realize that the government should be severely limited in its powers as it will abuse its power just as any corporation or other power will do.

History has shown us, time and time again, that power really does corrupt. Let's adhere to what our founding fathers wanted wich was a limited government.

Here is the Secret: all we need to do is to look, objectively and without any party loyalty, at the programs that our government has done in the past. Look at the money that they have spent. Look at their policies and their reach. I think we all can agree that the government has been the most powerful and influential leg of the chair of society. Many would argue thatbusiness controls government and that may be true. My point is that wi th all that power and influence the government still pays $500 for an air force toilet seat. Billions of dollars on education in Califionia and we are 48th in the nation for the best schools. Billions on healthcare, billions in New Orleans and they are not even near where they were. Billions on an underwater highway in Bostson and it leaks. Our government just doesn't do a good job when it does something. Everything they do costs 10 times what it should cost and is filled with corruption, partisanship and bloat.  Just look and you can see it everywhere. What is more is that it really makes no difference who sits in the President's chair or who has the majority in Congress.

Our problems keep getting worse and our issues bigger. The secret is that the government is and has always been the real problem. They do some good things, but they are far outweighed by the bad. You may disagree and I am happy to debate that, but if you agree than we should not discuss any other issues from now on. All we should strive to do is shrink and limit the government. Many of our problems will go away when we do.

Obama promised change and many of you liked that  idea. I think this was not the change you all wanted,but I see hope in the fact that we all wanted it.

Michelle, I will work on my debating tactics. Thank you."

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Scott Smith
Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage - Gloucester, MA
Gloucester & Rockport, Massachusetts

CF: First off, good post. You have certainly been an able debater on a number of subjects. One in particular was going quite well until it was hijacked.

I personally, and I will say it again, am fiscally conservative and socially liberal. Read whatever you want into that.

My one concern is that you single out Terry in this post. She has original content, ocassionally posting a YouTube video..accompanied by original content commentary. If you were to single out someone, it would certainly be Alice. She has rarely contributed orignal content. Her YouTube videos are accompanied by text lifted from a host of right-wing websites.

One point that you make is one that I have stated before. When we are HONEST and post from the heart, it breeds understanding and respect. I rarely agree with my friend Hugh, but because he posts his content from the heart and without ranting rhetoric, I generally get where he is coming from, although I certainly don't want to go where he is coming from :)

Jun 09, 2009 07:36 AM
Terry Haugen STAGE it RIGHT! 321-956-2495
Stage it Right! - Melbourne, FL

Christian, your personal attack on me in a blog is not being taken lightly here.  I am going to respectfully request you remove it now, or I will be respectfully requesting AR to review this blog for content.

Jun 09, 2009 09:51 AM
Es r
CSR - Huntington, TX

I don't understand Terry, you can call anyone else every name in the book. You can disparage public figures and politicians and CEO's but I cannot call into question your debating style.

I did not personally attack you. I did comment on your argument style and methods. Simmer down.

Jun 09, 2009 09:56 AM
Terry Haugen STAGE it RIGHT! 321-956-2495
Stage it Right! - Melbourne, FL

I don't post other AR members names in blogs CHRISTIAN!  Its one thing to sling barbs in comments, another thing altogether to use someone's name in a blog to make YOUR point.  As I said, remove my name from your blog.  I will not simmer down, you did personally attack me.  Remove MY name from your blog.

Jun 09, 2009 10:32 AM
Hugh Krone
Weichert Referral Associates - Hamburg, NJ
Realtor, Sussex County NJ

Chris,

 I hope this never happens again in my lifetime, but I agree with Terry. .Anyone who cares would have known who you were talking about but using someones name in your post is disrespectful. I t has happened to me and I was not pleased,

Scott, Thanks , again we agree onsomething that may be the second or third time this year.

Jun 09, 2009 10:43 AM
Hugh Krone
Weichert Referral Associates - Hamburg, NJ
Realtor, Sussex County NJ

Chris,

 Don't get me wrong I enjoy your posts whether I always agree or not , but AR management does not look kindly on calling  other members out in posts and I,ve seen to many suspeded or banished already. If the dispute goes to management the Liberal will win. Please delete her name so I can delete these comments hate for anyone to see me agreeing with her LOL

Jun 09, 2009 10:48 AM
Es r
CSR - Huntington, TX

Please tell me how I have personally attacked you.

Jun 09, 2009 10:59 AM
Es r
CSR - Huntington, TX

I never personally attacked her. Anyone who reads my post can see that, but beingrelatively new to AR, I did know that you should not use seomeone's name ina post. I was merely reprinting a comment that I made in another post and I was clear about that.

Hugh, I respect your advice and will remover her name because you suggested I should.

Jun 09, 2009 11:03 AM
Terry Haugen STAGE it RIGHT! 321-956-2495
Stage it Right! - Melbourne, FL

Hugh, THANK YOU!   Please dont delete your comments.  Its not a sign of weakness that you stuck up for me.  I know you didn't do it because you love me, but I do think you kinda like me :-)  AND you stood up for what is right.  Also, the liberals don't always win, at least not in the past 8 years.

Jun 09, 2009 11:43 AM
Scott Smith
Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage - Gloucester, MA
Gloucester & Rockport, Massachusetts

Hugh: Thank you for agreeing with me. I just checked outside and the seas have not inundated the countryside, locusts are nowhere in sight and lightening is not circling around looking for a house to hit. Guess all is good in the world. See, we are being respectful! How are things in NJ?

Christian: I didn't really think about it, but calling out Terry in that manner really wasn't cool. Thanks for editing out her name. 

Terry: We liberals don't always win. With Reid and Pelosi at the helm, they will certainly keep us from total domination! Too bad the righties don't see that.

Jun 09, 2009 12:03 PM
Terry Haugen STAGE it RIGHT! 321-956-2495
Stage it Right! - Melbourne, FL

Scott, there is always hope! :-)

Jun 09, 2009 12:50 PM
Es r
CSR - Huntington, TX

I still do not see that what I did was even disrepectful. If you read my blog, I never disparaged her character. I only called into serious question, her beliefs and tactics. That is what we all do here. Isn't it. Also, I state very clearly that my blog was literally a copy of my response to another.

Anyhow, I want the content of my blogs to be read and considered. I don't want these to become hateful blogs between two opposing viewpoints. Sos I iwll not mention names again, but I will still criticize when I see fit and call you out when I can.

Jun 09, 2009 02:21 PM