UPDATE: Short Sale Certification, CSP, Certified Distressed Property Expert - NOT REAL CERTIFICATIONS!

By
Real Estate Agent with Wilkinson & Associates

Greetings Fellow Realtors,


I have been very angry over this issue for quite some time! But, we are not being protected by our NAR against false CERTIFICATIONS!!! And, we are being targeted and preyed upon by misleading companies who are taking advantage of our desperation in this tough economy. Taking a class to educate yourself is always good. But do not be suckered into believing that if you do not take a specific course, that you will be doomed and not recognized as a professional. THESE ARE NOT NAR RECOGNIZED CERTIFICATIONS!!!! Realtors... think about this before you open your wallets. Beware! (Some of these provide excellent courses... that's not my issue) But NAR should stand behind the American Realtors who pay their dues and provide current education based on the economy that is standardized and complies with CE Education. None of us should be made to believe that we have to pay hundreds and thousands of dollars we do not have because companies are taking advantage of our bad economic times. Who has been harder hit then the SELF Employeed???? Where is our STIMULUS PACKAGE. NAR, WE NEED YOUR SUPPORT! NOW!

Please feel free to read my comments below that I posted today on the NAR Research Facebook page:

 http://activerain.com/blogsview/1232385/legitimate-short-sale-certification-from-the-nar-sfr-certification-the-real-deal-

 Update: THEY LISTENED!!!!

NAR Helps Realtors® Make Short Work of Short Sales

Washington, August 26, 2009

Nearly one-third of all existing homes sold recently were either short sales or foreclosures, according to National Association of Realtors® data. To help Realtors® meet the needs of home buyers and sellers who need these services, NAR has launched a new Short Sales and Foreclosure Certification Program (SFR).

"Foreclosures and short sales can offer opportunities for home buyers, but it's extremely important to have the help of a real estate professional like a Realtor® for these kinds of purchases," said NAR President Charles McMillan, a broker with Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage in Dallas-Fort Worth. "Realtors® add value to the real estate transaction with their extensive knowledge and market insights, and this new certification will help them serve a growing need."

The SFR certification program is offered by the Real Estate Buyer's Agent Council of NAR. The program includes training on how to manage short-sale, foreclosure, and real-estate owned transactions, and provides resources to help Realtors® stay current on national and state-specific information as the market for these distressed properties evolves.

To earn the certification, Realtors® must complete a one-day education program, either in-person or online, as well as three one-hour Webinars. The certification program will be offered at the REALTORS® Conference & Expo in San Diego, Nov. 13-16.

"As Realtors®, we believe that any family that loses their home to foreclosure is one family too many," said McMillan. "Unfortunately, there are situations in which people just cannot afford to keep their homes. A short sale can help families protect their credit by avoiding a foreclosure. When a foreclosed or REO property is sold, it helps the surrounding community by reducing the impact of those properties on home values in the immediate area."

For more information regarding the SFR Certification visit  www.realtorSFR.org.

The National Association of Realtors®, "The Voice for Real Estate," is America's largest trade association, representing 1.2 million members involved in all aspects of the residential and commercial real estate industries.

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www.carolinaslandandhome.com

Comments (33)

Anonymous
Lorraine F. Williams, CDPE,CFPS,CRS,ABR,SRES,ASP

Hey Lynn:

I am amazed by your comments.  I thought as a Real Estate Professional, that we would want to learn everything we can about our industry and most of all we would want to do everything we can to help our Sellers and Buyers.  The only way we can do this, is to continue our education.  It does not matter whether it is NAR approved or Non-NAR approved.  I don't think we need to be knocking any Designation that at the end of the day, prepares us to be more knowledgeable and better prepared to deal with this ever changing market.

I have been involved in Real Estate for over 20 years.  I have a degree in Business Management with a Major in Real Estate and a Minor in Personnel Management.  I have learned so much during my 20+ year career as a Real Estate Professional.  I have always wanted to be as knowledgeable as I can so that I can truly be of value to my clients.  I can't tell you how know much I am blessed to have had the opportunity to take the CDPE Course.  I thought I knew everything about Short Sales before taking this class.  After taking this course, I realized that I didn't know as much as I thought I knew.  I feel confident that with what I have learned from the CDPE Course I am truly prepared to help my sellers and buyers make an informed decision.

I like the other CDPE's encourage you to really take a good look at the program and to really see what the true value of this program will be for your and your clients in this ever changing world of Real Estate.

I can't wait for the next class here in Sacramento.  When the doors swing open, I will be swinging in to get any new and updated information.

Alex, there are not enough words to say thank you for standing up for our CDPE Designation.  While I have many designations, I am very proud to be a part of a revolution that is helping homeowners stay in their homes and when the times comes to be able to leave with some dignity.

I encourage all Realtors to take this course and receive the CDPE Designation.  By doing this, we all will be on the same page and working to turn this devastating tragedy around.  Let's all pull together and help our homeowners first stay in their homes if they can.  If not, let's help them leave their homes with dignity.  Let's make this our mission.

Lorraine F. Williams, CDPE,CFPS,CRS,ABR,SRES,ASP

"The Real Estate Diva"

Re/Max Gold - Sacramento

Jun 22, 2009 10:22 AM
#14
Anonymous
Wenceslao Fernandez Jr, CDPE (and proud)

Wow! It appears as though you took a perhaps of frustration, to express some thoughts that possibly came out all wrong.

I understand that designations don't make a person. Neither does money, power or anything else on this planet. It is the integrity and conviction of one's actions.  To paraphrase from "Batman Begins": It is what we do that defines us.

For this reason, I believe we should all seek to better ourselves and in my case, by investing in my training as a CDPE (obviously, always 'caveat emptor').

Personally, I don't want to sit around and wait for someone or something to point me the way...I want to seek it till I find it, and I did. When the CDPE course came to town (Miami), I JUMPED at the opportunity.

At the time, Short Sales were as frustrating as herding cats.  Yet, I knew instinctively that, since most other agents were either getting out of the business, going back to school to pursue other careeers or working the business part-time all the while knocking things they knew little to nothing about and were getting missinformed by so many others, like on the subject of short sales, that I had a duty and a responsibilty to my clients and customers and TO MYSELF to SHARPEN MY SKILLS DURING THIS SHIFTED MARKET (pick up the book entitled "Shift" by Gary Keller).

It is up to noone else but me. And so, I'm here to tell you that the level of confidence to work distressed properties and to counsel and coach those desperate homeowners that the CDPE designation has afforded me, is absolutely PRICELESS.

I implore you...don't just take a look at the course. TAKE THE COURSE. It is the ONLY of its kind, it is the ONLY one created BY Realtors FOR Realtors who look after our license and our collective growth.

That NAR does not have or want to sponsor or endorse a particular course, it does not mean that is neither bad NOR NOT REQUIRED.  In this market and for the forseable next few years...being a CDPE is MANDATORY for your success. 

Anything short of that, you'd be doing a disservice to yourselves and those you counsel. Your frustration will lead you out of the business when embrasing it would empower you to reach new levels of success. DONT UNDERESTIMATE this upportunity.

My favorite saying is: Luck, is When Preparation Meets Opportunity.  So, prepare to embrace all the opportunities the CDPE training will bring your way, and watch your luck change!

Wenceslao Fernandez Jr., BS, CDPE

Keller Williams Realty Miami Beach

Jun 22, 2009 12:18 PM
#15
Lynn Cooper
Wilkinson & Associates - Charlotte, NC

I have carefully read all of these wonderful comments.  Thank you all for joining in on this and giving me your thoughts.  Each an everyone are so appreciated.  Please understand that my frustration is with our NAR not establishing certification guidelines...  And, some of the wonderful educators who have answered and commented... Please understand that I do believe your coursework is wonderful and ANYONE to wants to improve themselves by gaining knowledge gets my fullest and highest respect.  However, my real point here is the lack of guidelines for any certification or designation.  We Realtors know which designations and certifications are fully endorsed by the NAR.  How could our economy be in this state and home sales be where they are and our NAR not establish guidelines for our licensed industry... All of you that have taken courses are better for them.  I agree.  I also have taken a "certification" course for short sales. 

Let me ask each of you a question.  WOULD YOU KNOWINGLY GO TO A DOCTOR FOR A SERIOUS LIFE ISSUE IF YOU KNEW HE/SHE WAS NOT "BOARD CERTIFIED?"

And now think about all of those wonderful agents and Realtors out there who could not afford $150-$400+ for a class that was not really a certification.  WHERE IS OUR NAR?  WHAT ARE THEY DOING FOR US?  TELL ME!

Thank you so very much again all of you for your comments.  Thank you for allowing me to be passionate about my opinion and being so respectful. 

Lynn

Jun 22, 2009 03:36 PM
Chuck Rifae
Prudential PenFed Realty - Leesburg, VA

Hey Lynn, I love passionate professionals like yourself. It tells me you care and what this industry needs more then anything else are Realtors who care, who care about there clients, care about our business, care about our communities and most importantly care about the how the public see us REALTORS. So, here is my spin. I don’t care much for designations. As an Associate Broker and former Managing Partner in a mid-size Real Estate firm I’ve seen more then my share of alphabet soup designations. Here is what I’ve learned. The really good classes I’ve taken have both had good material and good knowledgeable instructors. I think for the most part Alex has both. I came away knowing more about short sales then when I walked in. I enjoyed Alex’s delivery and passion about the material he was giving. I also now have a network of 8,000+ Realtors who are struggling through this stuff just like me. Today I was on a CDPE blog and blogged with a Realtor in Fla who sent me lender info (email address, direct phone numbers, mailing address etc) for just about every lender I’ve ever heard of and some I haven’t. I know for a fact that between the 8,000+ nationwide CDPE Realtors and myself we know more then most (not all, but most) Realtors who are trying to do Short Sales by themselves.

So, I would like to pass this invitation to you. Take the on-line course and join the blogs and then come back here and blog about your experience. I’m sure Alex will gladly refund your money if you are still dissatisfied with the course (right Alex!).

And about NAR giving there blessing…so what??? NAR has blessed a ton of course that are just junk! I’m sure if Alex greases the right wheels he can have a “certification” fairly easily for that matter I’m sure you can have one too (How’s about we start a blogging certification??? I’ll split it with you;0))

Thank you again for Passion Lynn! I hope to be your first connection on the CDPE blog!

Chuck Rifae

Jun 25, 2009 11:39 AM
Anonymous
David E. Rose

Lynn,

While I understand your frustration with NAR's certification process I think you are "tilting at windmills". 

Before I continue and sounds as though I am "bashing" NAR let me explain that I am PROUD to be a Realtor and believe my work to be a calling.  I was first licensed in 1967 and both my mother and stepfather were Realtors.  So I hold our profession and the organization that has built into a profession in the very highest of regard.

Having said that NAR is not and can not be the source of all of my education or certification.  Our membership has climbed over a million, may be a little less right now, and an organization of that size by its very nature moves slowly.  By contrast, as we have just experienced, the market can move very quickly.

I am thankful that several people jumped into to offer training programs on how to cope with the new market realitiies.  NAR had it's handsful trying to "spin" the market in a positive light and reconfigure their internal budget to cope with the reversal in their revenues.  Entrepreneurs however are much more flexible and several of them with a passion for training jumped in to teach the "working Realtor" how to cope in this recessionary marketplace.  I for one sampled several "short sale" programs, some I found downright offensive, some naive, and some simply left me cold.  When I came across "Certified Distressed Property Experts" www.cdpe.com , I had found one that subscribed to the principles and believes that I could embrace and totally proudly call my self a "Certified Distressed Property Expert".  Not for one minute did I ever have any reason to think that CDPE, or any of the others, were certified by NAR.  If NAR ever does get around to officially adopting a "Distressed Property" designation, the market will probably have returned and the designation will be meaningless.  There is nothing new about this.  I have been a "Seniors Real Estate Specialist" for over ten years, it was only after the founder died that NAR finally purchased the designation from the California state organization thus making it a national designation. (The founder of the SRES designation was a NAR Director).

I see nothing to complain about here --- just don't expect so much from NAR.  They take very little of our money and gives us alot in return, but they are not the end all be all.

www.DavidERose.com

 

 

Jun 27, 2009 10:43 AM
#18
Alex Charfen
Charfen Institute - Austin, TX

Everyone - I can't thank you enough for all of your support!  It is with the help of members like you that the CDPE designation is able to have the impact that it has. 

Alex Charfen

Jun 29, 2009 08:05 AM
Anonymous
Kitty B. Stockton

Lynn, I totallly understand your concern about the speed at which NAR may or may not approve something, but in this case who can afford to wait?  The market changed dramatically and quickly, and it is continuing to do so.  I could not wait til NAR said they had a course.  I did not even have short sales in my area, when I went from NC to CO to take the course, because the information was so timely to my being a pro.  As far as caveat emptor is concerned, it has always been that way.  I am a grown up, and I did my own due diligence.  I spend all of my hard earned money the same way.  I check it out carefully, before I invest, and if I get ripped off, that is up to me.  No one else.

In the case of the CDPE course, it was THE best course I have ever taken.  Not just for short sales, but for selling real estate in general.  The principles covered in the course are basic business principles, the short sale stuff was how to--this course was the real deal.  Do this, then this, then this, and you will make money and help others as you go.  Also, the course is how to deal with distressed property owners, and right now there are plenty of those, which are not short sales.  I just got a referral today from a local agent, who did not want to deal with the woman's situation, but also did not listen long enough to learn the woman has over two hundred thousand of equity.  I am taking the listing tomorrow.

I understand your point, I do, but in the meantime, go take this course, you will be glad you did.  And if you are not happy, you will get your money back.  Good luck to you.

Kitty B. Stockton, Broker, CRS, CDPE, ABR, SRES, e-PRO, GRI, REALTOR, Chapel Hill, NC 

Jun 29, 2009 09:01 AM
#20
Anonymous
Joyce Silva, Realtor, CDPE e-Pro EcoBroker certified

I found the Certified Distressed Property class to be extremely helpful and informative.  I do not feel that N.A.R. has a monopoly on quality. Do your research and be careful. There are many worthless programs out there, but CDPE is not one of them.

Jul 07, 2009 05:10 AM
#21
Anonymous
Paul Gutting

Lynn,

I am glad that you have brought up the physician example.  Having worked with and for physicians for over 25 years, I have worked with many board certified docs as well as fellows and also physicians who have no such certifications.  I find all education is good.  Did you know that when new technology comes out that many of these physicians go to a two day course to learn how to use it?  There is an axiom in the medical profession of see one, do one, teach one.  Very often early adopters, such as the ones who are now working with short sales are, get their education bedore any board certified organization makes it a formal part of their training. 

Passion is good and there must certainly be something behind why you feel that way.  I believe that constructive criticism is always more valuable than complaining.  Scripture says that before attempting to remove a speck from your neighbor's eye one must remove the speck from one's own eye first.  We all are operating on reduced income and we must carefully evaluate any and all expendatures of money, but that is a personal decision and not something for an activerain blog, in my humble opinion.  If this training can forestall or eliminate the threat of foreclosure for just one person can we not say it is successful?  As a CDPE, we know that hundreds of individuals have been able to stay in their homes as a result of this training and I think that is very good.

Regards,

Paul

Jul 08, 2009 01:47 AM
#22
Anonymous
Theresa

I opened this blog because I was thinking of taking the CDPE class. I have been working on short sales for almost 1 year now and have succesfully closed over a dozen. I have also had my share of failures and frustrations. I want to take my business to the next level as I have been struggling to make ends meet ever since beginning of 2008 when things got really bad in my area (Southern California). I have been surfing the web the last couple of days trying to figure out the best short sale class/ certification to take and I found a few differant ones. I too have taken my share of 3 hour short sale classes, two to be exact. Both were sponsored by my local board of realtors and were fairly inexpensive (under $100). I walked into these classes with some knowledge of short sales and walked out with not much more. They both just grazed on the topic and fell short of actually teaching me what I need to learn to be more succesful. They taught things like definitions and other basics. Nothing that got me anywhere...

So I ran across this blog and found something negative about CDPE. I thought I had to read it in case I was making a mistake considering the course. Now on the contracty, I think that the certification will give me credibility with homeowners. I hope that it will also help me close deals faster, more efficiantly, and gain a higher success rate. I thought this blog would change my mind but instead it convinced me that it is exactly what I want to do. I am signing up for the next live class which is next week... I hope there are still seats available... Thanks everyone for your opinions and help... !!!! :)

Jul 23, 2009 12:25 PM
#23
Anonymous
Patricia Baker

I took the CDPE course, I have been doing short sales and reo's for over 3 years and figured it would just be a good idea to see if someone had put something together to say what we are doing.  It does, and more importantly although I have been VERY successful in closing short sales, I work with an attorney in all of them, I found that the information, hand outs are worth the course for seminars I have.  The one thing I am frustrated about is all the realtors who say I'm not going to do a short sale, and then they get one and mess it up.  This program gives realtors an idea of what to do, where to go and how to -- best line, partner with an attorney.  Homeowners like the fact that I have the designation - they feel that I have taken the time to learn more about a confusing part of our business and something that radically affects the buyers and sellers.  I am amazed at how many realtors I have spoken to that had done short sales and had no idea that the note was attached and had to be removed along with the mortgage - if they had taken the course they would have had known it but should have remembered it from their basic realtor course.  It scares me to think of the law suits that will arise in about 5 years of realtors who said liens all off, and then the homeowner receives this judgement for the deficiency.I don't worry about who authorizes the designation I worry about what I learn from it.  I am not sorry I took the course, and have encouraged others in my office to take it. 

Aug 20, 2009 02:41 AM
#24
Anonymous
George Tifft

Lynn,

In an earlier post you made the comment "WOULD YOU KNOWINGLY GO TO A DOCTOR FOR A SERIOUS LIFE ISSUE IF YOU KNEW HE/SHE WAS NOT "BOARD CERTIFIED?" It is to that statement I would like to frame my response.

Back in the early 90's, I had a small business in South Florida and through a series of unforeseen events (and most of our life changing events are just that unforeseen) ended up bankrupt. But, praise God in Florida our home was protected by the Homestead Act. (I don't know if that is still around?). You would have thought that by filing out our debt via the BK that we would have been able to "upright" the boat we called our finances, but that was not the case. We did everything that we were advised to do, but no matter how hard we swam, we just kept sinking. About 18 months after the BK, we lost our home to foreclosure.

We sought advice from Attorneys, Real Estate Agents, heck I even thought about using the "magic Eight ball for advice; But in that season there wasn't any.

If someone could have helped us out of that situation with dignity, I would not have cared if they were "witch doctors" waving chicken bones. I needed someone to at the very least stand with me and say...I will do the best I can for you, but no guarantees. But I will be with you until it's finished.

Do you know how "alone" people feel in bankruptcy or foreclosure. Did you ever notice that the easiest way to "spot" a foreclosure is to look for the house with the over grown lawn and all of the curtains drawn tight. Do you know why it is that way? It is the personal shame that these folks live under.

Having been an investor before becoming a Realtor, I dabbled in short sales for the $$ that could be created in the "deal". I was not a "crook" by any means, but the motive was the $$. I spent tens of thousands of dollars educating myself in that side of the industry. After getting my RE license, I signed up for a continuing education credit course offered by my local board of Realtors. In my mind I assumed that because it was a certified course offered within my board that I was going to "learn" the magic code to open the door to success in this arena.

I sat in that class and listened to an attorney tell all of these "agents" that short sales were dangerous and should be better handed over to short sale specialists..."for your own protection". I had a working, hands-on experience in short sales and I knew that the information that was being provided was at the very least "WORTHLESS". And I received CE credits for that class!

Being one of the only agents in an office of about 45 that "seeks out short sales", my Broker (a dedicated Buffini follower) came to me and mentioned she had seen something about a designation that focused on distressed properties; I began to look into it.

After reviewing the CDPE site, I said to myself, "why not, I've thrown $$ at other things that didn't sound nearly as "honorable" as the CDPE". I took the online course and for me it was the single best investment I made for my understanding of the market we find ourselves in.

When I combine my personal experience of BK/Foreclosure and my CDPE CONTINUING education, I sit with my clients with a confidence that lets them know:

1) I know how you feel.

2) I can help.

3) I really from the bottom of my heart care.

And I have met very few Board Certified Doctors that can say that.

My suggestion for you would be to take the course for yourself, you will either agree and it will change your RE business, or you will disagree...But it will still change you!

 Be Blessed

GT

Aug 20, 2009 11:05 PM
#25
Anonymous
Char MacCallum

I have been in Real Estate for over 31 years, I have seen it all and have experienced both the highs and lows of the real estate market. 

I learned so much from the CDPE course, more than any from our Board of Realtors.  The community forum keeps me abreast of all the fast changes that are happening in the foreclosure and short sale banking world.

I recently had a family their home has been on the market with another realtor, they lost their job, had to move to another community and their second baby is due any day.  The called me to help them out of desperation because of my CDPE designation, desperate because they no longer have saving left and could not make anymore payments.  Their previous realtors told them short sales were illegal.  Imagine, if they had gotten the right information a year ago.  We sold it and they told me, how grateful they are and have much I had helped.  That is what my CDPE designation is all about, helping people you are in distress and being the expert that others were not by helping them get out of their unfortunate situation.  I do hope that you open your selves to new ideas and methods to help the consumers.  That is what we are all here for, to help solve real estate situations.

Char MacCallum, CRS GRI CDPE ABR ASR and more

Knowledge is powerful and all these education opportunities from NAR class to Star Power bring new tools to my tool belt of Real Estate Service Company.

Aug 29, 2009 06:08 AM
#26
Lynn Cooper
Wilkinson & Associates - Charlotte, NC

PRAISE GOD!  THE NAR LISTENED!!!!

NAR Helps Realtors® Make Short Work of Short Sales

Washington, August 26, 2009

Nearly one-third of all existing homes sold recently were either short sales or foreclosures, according to National Association of Realtors® data. To help Realtors® meet the needs of home buyers and sellers who need these services, NAR has launched a new Short Sales and Foreclosure Certification Program (SFR).

"Foreclosures and short sales can offer opportunities for home buyers, but it's extremely important to have the help of a real estate professional like a Realtor® for these kinds of purchases," said NAR President Charles McMillan, a broker with Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage in Dallas-Fort Worth. "Realtors® add value to the real estate transaction with their extensive knowledge and market insights, and this new certification will help them serve a growing need."

The SFR certification program is offered by the Real Estate Buyer's Agent Council of NAR. The program includes training on how to manage short-sale, foreclosure, and real-estate owned transactions, and provides resources to help Realtors® stay current on national and state-specific information as the market for these distressed properties evolves.

To earn the certification, Realtors® must complete a one-day education program, either in-person or online, as well as three one-hour Webinars. The certification program will be offered at the REALTORS® Conference & Expo in San Diego, Nov. 13-16.

"As Realtors®, we believe that any family that loses their home to foreclosure is one family too many," said McMillan. "Unfortunately, there are situations in which people just cannot afford to keep their homes. A short sale can help families protect their credit by avoiding a foreclosure. When a foreclosed or REO property is sold, it helps the surrounding community by reducing the impact of those properties on home values in the immediate area."

For more information regarding the SFR Certification visit  www.realtorSFR.org.

The National Association of Realtors®, "The Voice for Real Estate," is America's largest trade association, representing 1.2 million members involved in all aspects of the residential and commercial real estate industries.

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Sep 10, 2009 02:22 AM
Anonymous
Bill Ahls (Charlotte NC market also)

Lynn,

Unfortunately the SFR certification just announced by NAR has a "buyer agency" focus and is not geered towards marketing short sales and lender communication. It's actuallly in the REBAC grouping as an elective for the ABR. My guess is that NAR will not try to compete head-to-head with the CDPE credential due to it's being embraced by the industry as well as it has (over 10,000 strong now).

Having several short sales under my belt prior to getting my CDPE cert, I was able to see a clear contrast between my original process and that to which it morphed after CDPE. The shifting was monumentally positive and reaped rewards the 1st week right here in Concord NC. The only certification I've ever received that was of similar quality in terms of tangible, hit-the-ground-running tools was CRS. I would strongly recommend both to anyone who focuses on continuous process improvement.

Bill Ahls

www.NoForeclosureBroker.com

Sep 27, 2009 08:02 AM
#28
Derek Bauer's, www.DoorToDreams.com Door to Dreams Home Selling Team
Real Estate One - South Lyon, MI

Lynn,

As a CDPE with near 100% success (Bank of America transactions the only ones that are up-in-the-air), I can't say enough great things about the organization and designation. 

I have always frowned on designations, which is why I have shyed away from all of them.  Clients are hiring my expertise and experience, not based on how many letters are after my name.  To that end, I agree with you.  CDPE and getting my broker's license are the only such things I have chosen to invest in, solely based on the value I feel each of those bring.

I believe the best agents out there are those who are continually learning and educating themselves and others.  Whether that takes a designation or not is up to the individual, as the content, learning, and experience is ultimately what it is all about.

My best to you and your success and career.

Derek Bauer
Real Estate One - the Door to Dreams Team
http://DoorToDreams.com

Oct 17, 2009 06:53 AM
Anonymous
Shelly White, MBA SFR

Good going Lynn!  Your voice was heard!  I have read the comments. I will say after taking the NARS SFR designation class, I feel that the instructor could of done better with the information presented. I didn't want to challenge the instructor, but I felt she left out some important inormation. I did short sales back when no one knew they existed! It was 2002 and the majority of my business last year was short sales. I was also asked why was I not teaching the course. A couple of times I had to raise my hand and tell her how things have changed since the old school way of doing short sales let alone Real estate.  I just have a plan that I am implementing now. I think  that both listing agents and buyer agents who have knowledge or understanding of the process will help keep down the stress and the complaints. I always know when a an agent does not know short sales because they ask the question of is it approved? If a short sale is approved its indicated in the MLS because of buyer failure right? A lender will not deal with you if the complete short sale package is not turned in anyway. So basically I listen for clues to let me know the experience and level of knowledge of that agent.

See if you are new to the Short Sale REO part of our industry and you have no real knowledge or experience, you would think any class you took was wonderful.  I also felt like screaming during the course because of the lack of information. I commend any Realtor/Broker who takes course to improve knowledge whether NAR or not, but let me put something out there for thought.

If we have a National organization that has recognized by the public, that has a designation for professionals or experts in that market, as a consumer who would you choose? Its simple, team up with the NAR if the information is so informative, offer the course at a resonable price, (I paid $10.00  )and link up the knowledge so we can take on the banks to streamline their processes better.

I am not against the CDPE but I would have to attend one of their courses or review their information to see what my opinion is of their presentation. I would also need to see how their information relates with the many different lenders reqquirements. If you have never done a short sale, and you take a class and pass a test, that certainly does not make you an expert! Actually, let me re-phrase, if you have never successfully closed a short sale, you have no experience, Period! 

Shelly White, MBA, SFR by (National Assoc of Realtors)

Jan 03, 2010 04:34 AM
#30
Anonymous
shelly white

Lynn

Sorry about to catch a flight didn't do spell check because I was typing so fast! =( . Posters, please don't send silly responses about grammar, at this particular time well, go figure. By the way have you seen the spelling and grammar of a text message of a teenager?  Its' VFF 9 very freaking funny) or LOL (Laugh out Loud)!

Smile!

Jan 03, 2010 04:40 AM
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Marty and Laurie Gale
Utah Realty - South Jordan, UT
Utah Realty | 801-205-3500 | UtahRealtyPlace.com

The CPDE Designation was beneficial to me here in Utah. I wish you the best at helping distressed property owners. 

May 12, 2010 02:37 AM
Freddy Solis
Carrington Real Estate Services - Fairfax, VA
Your Real Estate Coach

Wow! Congrats to all of you. I see you have put lots of time trying to improve in your trade. You must have a hard time time finding space to type all those designations after your name.

Solis, FE. (Freddy Eduardo) That's all I got for now

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Felecia Fair, CDPE, CRP, IRES

Debbie Yost, CDPE, CRS, CPC, CLHMS, Broker/Owner

Robert Larkan, CDPE, Associate Broker

Lorraine F. Williams, CDPE, CFPS, CRS, ABR, SRES, ASP, DIVA

Wenceslao Fernandez Jr., BS, CDPE

Kitty B. Stockton, Broker, CRS, CDPE, ABR, SRES, e-PRO, GRI, REALTOR

Char MacCallum, CRS GRI CDPE ABR ASR and more

Shelly White, MBA, SFR

Dec 12, 2011 08:01 AM