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Realtor membership reduction

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Real Estate Agent with Florida State Realty Group, Inc BK3089599

It’s that time of year again in our association where all of the annual dues are now payable. Local, state, NAR, MLS.

 

There was a post a day or so ago by another Realtor suggesting the state should increase the licensing fees for real estate to $1000 in order to force people out that do not really positively contribute to our profession. This really will not be necessary whereas the annual dues will probably have the same effect. The general opinion, of those in the know, expects a Realtor membership decrease throughout the State of Florida well in excess of 30% this year alone.  In fact, the largest real estate school in the area has been experiencing a 62% reduction in real estate students.

 

PART 2 on this subject

 

Stephen McWilliam
Florida State Realty Group, Inc - Fort Lauderdale, FL
ABR, CRB, CRS, GRI

Bob, I understood David’s post and agreed with it totally in concept. Unfortunately, no state would simply raise their licensing fees for the purpose of making the license cost prohibitive to a low producing agent. With local board of choice the local boards must be competitive with each other or lose members. I cannot imagine FAR or NAR raising fees to become exclusionary.  I believe that the renewal cycle will be the first in a series of major Realtor membership reduction. As some of these other posts have indicated they’re experiencing as much as a 40% drop in membersip. That would equate to about 12,000 member reduction in southeast Florida.

Sep 29, 2006 08:49 AM
Susan Milner
Florida Future Realty, Inc. - Cape Coral, FL
Cape Coral Real Estate Broker, FloridaFutureAgents

I think the INITIAL cost to become licensed shoudl be MORE as well as the actual LENGTH OF COURSE.

I think that many already in the biz that maybe shouldn't be wouldn't be too likely to leave if fees were increased now.

BUT, if continueing education were more difficult or time consuming, many may rethink their career.

But it's easy, kind like how it's easy to renew a driver's license. Hell, people who can't see can have someone else renew them online & keep on driving - I think many MUST have done that ;)

 

Sep 29, 2006 09:29 AM
Nima Rezvan CT Lender CT Senior Mortgage Broker
Nima Rezvan Prosper First Funding Corporation NMLS#110681 - Fairfield, CT
First Time Home Buyer Expert - CT FHA Loans - FHA

This business is not for everybody so the people will leave on their own.  I agree, you don't need to increase your dues.  I wonder what the dues are here in Connecticut?  I think having access to the MLS computer real estate listings is $1,000 a year, but I could be wrong.

Your Mortgage Man,

Nima

http://www.MyNima.com

 

Sep 29, 2006 09:59 AM
Roberta Murphy
San Diego Previews Real Estate - Carlsbad, CA
Carlsbad Real Estate and Homes

I have only heard of anecdotal evidence that licensing is on the decrease in California--in that the exam wait time has been cut in half. There are also an inordinate nunber of agents who are switching companies--perhaps hoping that the change might make a difference.

 

Sep 29, 2006 10:29 AM
Home Design
Alpharetta, GA
Home Design and Real Estate
I like the 1 year internship idea.  There are too many consumers getting hurt due to poorly trained and inexperienced agents.  I would participate in mentoring
Sep 29, 2006 11:15 AM
Leigh Brown
Leigh Brown & Associates, RE/MAX Executive - Charlotte, NC
CEO, Dream Maker - Charlotte, NC
I agree with raising the bar-real estate overall currently has one of the lowest barriers to entry of any profession-which does lead to more unqualified people in the business.  Our state has recently gone broker-only with a minimum of 2 years in the business required before you can be a BIC or hang out a shingle, which I think will increase our quality overall in short order.  Still doesn't run out the scumbags, but without the worst among us, we wouldn't look so great in comparision!  ;)
Sep 29, 2006 02:08 PM
Mike Osborn
Long and Foster Realtors - Chesapeake, VA
I agree with those that mentioned the internship idea.  I am a fairly new agent and would love that kind of opportunity.  I don't really see the point others are making about raising dues.  I don't see this as a way to weed out bad agents.  There are bad agents that are big producers and will still pay their dues if increased.  I do believe that perhaps the initial training in the classroom should be longer and more thorough than it is or at least what it is here in Virginia.  As for money though, I just don't see raising dues as a way to keep out the bad. 
Sep 29, 2006 03:14 PM
Stephen McWilliam
Florida State Realty Group, Inc - Fort Lauderdale, FL
ABR, CRB, CRS, GRI

How about the lost revenue to the associations? I started a new post about this PART 2 on this subject

Sep 29, 2006 11:51 PM
Eric Brogna
Florida State Realty Group, Inc - Coral Springs, FL

This will hopefully create less competition and less nonsense

Sep 29, 2006 11:54 PM
Sharon Balkin
Florida State Realty Group, Inc - Fort Lauderdale, FL
Ditto
Sep 29, 2006 11:55 PM
Rich Kruse
Gryphon USA, Ltd. - Columbus, OH

30% reduction is not a shock.  It costs more to live, more to be in business and fees are becoming more competitive.  Only the smart and tough are going to survive. 

Increase the fees?  No.  Membership in the associations will fall and that will affect the industry as a whole.  The courses and conventions will suffer.  The agents on the fence will not quit real estate, they will quit the associations.  They will learn to live the unspeakable - NO MLS !!  Raising fees will, in the short term, create more problems as agents learn adapt.  They will adapt eventually and may even create a better system.  Until they do, it will be worse.

Sep 30, 2006 01:00 AM
"JT" Prevatte
Former Agent - Fayetteville, NC

Stephen I have to agree with the post by David Eiglarsh it was about making the annual fees more so we get a better quality agent. In our industry we have a very bad rap due to so many agents that should not be in the business. This was a way to get better agents, I think there was a couple of Active Rainers that read more into what he wrote

09/29/2006 by Bob Pavey,CRS


You might be talking about me. 

I still disagree.  How is raising the fees going to single out the bad agents?  Did you have a pocket full of money when you started as an agent?  I highly doubt it.  So I guess you would qualify as the riff-raff?

Everyone has to start somewhere.  Great agents may be challenged financially until they have some time in the business and saying..."if you can't afford to buy into this business" is foolish and very narrow minded. 

Sep 30, 2006 03:23 AM
Timothy Butterworth
Taking a break - Portland, OR
In oregon it is split up into 4 monthly payment of about $200. If you miss a payment you have 30 days to catch up or you can not access the RMLS (MLS) at all. I was talking with one of the owners Steve Lucas of OREGON REALTY and he mentioned that back in 1980 oregon had about 3000 agents in 1981 it drop to 1500 active agents. The market had changed, those that could not ride out the waves found something else to get into.
Sep 30, 2006 03:55 AM
Gena Riede
Riede Real Estate, Lic. 01310792 - Sacramento, CA
Real Estate Broker - Sacramento CA Real Estate (916) 417-2699
It's about time...I can't wait to have a deal with someone that knows how to fill out the paperwork and proceed. It will be a breath of fresh air.
Sep 30, 2006 04:38 AM
Carl Guild
Carl Guild & Associates - East Hampton, CT
Central Connecticut Real Estate
Less agents = more $ for me -There really are some crazy agents who have no idea what they are doing though....
Sep 30, 2006 05:42 AM
Tracy Estridge
Rocklin, CA

No need to increase dues, the inexperienced agents are falling out fast & this will only increase during this fall.

Sep 30, 2006 01:00 PM
Joan & Greg Cook
The Cook Team at Keller Williams Partners Realty - Plantation, FL
I feel that either a higher financial or educational threshold should be in place as a barrier to keep the hobbiests out of the business.
Oct 02, 2006 03:44 PM
David Spencer
Keller Williams Northland - Kansas City, MO
Show Me real estate in Kansas City

I teach license law in Illinois. Those seeking licensure is decreasing, but hat is due to present market conditions.

The 9:00 to 5:00 group always thinks the road to riches lies in a real estate license. So, those failing are replaced by those soon to fail.

Oct 17, 2006 10:00 AM
Anonymous
Dani California

What is screwed is that I have been working hard for four years+ with my license, but have never been able to afford to become a member on my own because of personal circumstances. I know it is unimaginable to not have an extra 500-1000 dollars lying around to MOST Americans in the real estate industry, but I've lived paycheck to paycheck as long as i have been working. Never any cash for emergencies so it had to go on credit, then when there's more money it has to go pay off the credit debt plus interest. Never a homeowner for the same reasons...I was salaried as an assistant and had a membership then, paid by my company. I am just as worthy of being a REALTOR as anyone else who actually is except I really don't have the money and don't know when I will. So someday when I get out of this financial rut and have a bit to spare I want to start a foundation for people like myself who are honest, ethical and hard working but just need that initial PUSH to get started. Sponsor them one year's worth of dues and all that. I am surprised with all the "do-gooders" in this world, that no one has anything like this already in action.

Jan 20, 2009 07:59 AM
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Dani California

And ALSO it makes me crazy to see braindead agents with listings four counties away who have no clue what is going on in the local market but because they had the $$$, they are in business. But the listing is either radically overpriced for current conditions or incorrectly categorized where it doesn't even come up right. So it's been on the market for a year and a month with no price adjustments for the last ten months...

Jan 20, 2009 08:31 AM
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