What Do You Find on Dogs, Priests and Water Heaters?

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Home Inspector with JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC HOI 394

Seems like an incongruous list, but all do have something in common; collars. As you would suspect the topic is collars for water heaters not dogs or priests. Actually the collar in question is for the flue pipe of the water heater or combustion appliance.

Flue pipes are for safely transporting the products of combustion to the exterior. The gases they carry are hot. To get the pipe to the exterior it will often have to be sent through a wall or ceiling. When the pipe is passed through a wall or ceiling a collar is installed to insulate the wall or ceiling from the hot pipe.

The first picture is of a newer water heater with the flue pipe going straight up through the ceiling. In the close up photo it is apparent a protective collar has not been installed. Also undesirable is the unsealed gap around the pipe which will leak unconditioned air into the home.

It is a little ironic to note that in the first photo the boiler flue pipe seen passing behind the water and through the wall has a collar.

The repair of this potential fire hazard is relatively simple. An HVAC specialist can easily install the protective collar in little time.

Do you have a missing collar?

James Quarello
NRSB #8SS0022
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC

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JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC

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Jim Valentine
RE/MAX Realty Affiliates - Gardnerville, NV

Thanks for the info.  I just had a gas inspector replace a gas line going through the wall without a collar.  I hadn't thought about it before that, and was very appreciative of his initiative to change it out when turning on the gas. 

Jul 22, 2009 01:31 AM #1
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Andrea Swiedler
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices New England Properties - New Milford, CT
Realtor, Southern Litchfield County CT

Hi Jim, little duct tape and silicone caulk, and it will be as good as new. Ghesh.

One would think that the people we pay to do the work would get it right. Unless of course it was a home repair job. Thanks for the tip!

Jul 22, 2009 02:27 AM #2
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Matt Listro
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Hi Jim

Even though I am not personally in the home inspection business, I really appreciate the info as it is definitely useful! I'm reminded of a recent story on the news of movers that were not licensed and wrecked several customers' furniture so I definately agree it is always a plus to get what you pay for!

:)

Matt

 

Jul 22, 2009 02:47 AM #3
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Kate Kate
San Diego, CA

I'm with Andrea. You might consider blue tape also. It will not pull the paint off the wall or the pipe in question. Kate

Jul 22, 2009 02:51 AM #4
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Steven L. Smith
King of the House Home Inspection, Inc. - Bellingham, WA
Bellingham WA Home Inspector

Mr James,

I do not like the tone of this blog post. Years back I was collared, photo below, and it was not that fun for me.

Nutsy

Jul 22, 2009 08:51 AM #5
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Kate Kate
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Fashion tip #8: Prison food expands the waistline.Nutsy in collarBut blue tape applied properly will return it to its normal proportions.

Jul 22, 2009 08:58 AM #6
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James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

Jim, There are some good service people out there. Glad to hear you found one.

Andrea, If I remember right this was "professionally" installed.

Matt, It comes down to doing your homework and being an informed consumer.

Kate, You and Andrea are quite the pair of DYIers. Tape, caulk, baling wire. Have you two forgotten chewing gum?

Nutsy, Unfortunately you escaped and fled the countrty. You behave or I will let the boss know the details.

Kate, The tape goes over the mouth so he can't eat or talk.

Jul 22, 2009 10:40 AM #7
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Kate Kate
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Speaking for both Andrea and myself, of course we did not forget bubble gum. We just don't like to give away all of our trade secrets at once.

Lots 'n lotsa gum in Nutsy's mouth might do the trick better than blue tape. However caulk flavored insulation was his diet in the slammer. Partially responsible for his current lack of smarts.

Jul 22, 2009 11:35 AM #8
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Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
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I vote for the gum, caulk and the tape----one can never be too careful

Jul 22, 2009 12:42 PM #9
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James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

Sounds like the shot gun approach or should I approach Nutsy with a shot gun.

Jul 22, 2009 01:02 PM #10
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Kate Kate
San Diego, CA

I vote for him tossed back in the slammer. I offered him a padlock somewhere today on the gazillion blogs he frequents so we can add that to the gum, tape and caulk.

Am I going to have to email Ms. Barbara again? In her absence, I'm thinking she is going to lose her claim to Nutsy due to a certain squatter who at this time and place must still go unnamed. Squatting usually applies to urban decay which defines Nutsy.

Jul 22, 2009 01:15 PM #11
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Steven L. Smith
King of the House Home Inspection, Inc. - Bellingham, WA
Bellingham WA Home Inspector

Mrs Kate,

You quit dissing my Godmother. She is wonderful and recognizes my modest genius. That is what I have to say to you.

Nutsy S Wallenda

Jul 23, 2009 03:50 AM #12
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Kate Kate
San Diego, CA

Repeating meaningless phrases is the first sign of rabies.

Jul 23, 2009 03:54 AM #13
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James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

I recognize you as a monumental moron.

Jul 23, 2009 04:46 AM #14
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Kate Kate
San Diego, CA

James, wait until you catch sight of Nutsy's mom. She's an eye full.

 

Jul 23, 2009 05:13 AM #15
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Lyn Sims
RE/MAX Suburban - Schaumburg, IL
Schaumburg IL Real Estate

Everywhere I've ever lived has never had a collar.  Just the water stained hole coming from the roof or upper unit.  Part probably costs 5 bucks right?  Too much for the builder to do I guess!

Jul 23, 2009 06:32 AM #16
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James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

Lyn, Installing it takes a little extra time and effort which costs $.

Jul 23, 2009 08:50 AM #17
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Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Gee, at least the water heater vent, collar or no collar, is inclined...

Jul 24, 2009 12:41 PM #18
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James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

Jay, That pipe was for a direct vent boiler. And yes it was slightly negatively pitched.

Jul 24, 2009 10:35 PM #19
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