Home Owners Are Not Always to Blame

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Home Inspector with JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC HOI 394

Being a home inspector I find a lot of goofy stuff. Usually this silliness is done by a home owner or a "handy" family member like ol' Uncle Bob. Home owners are the brunt of many jokes to do with home repairs and renovations, BUUUUT to be fair professionals are just as often the culprits.

What's disturbing about shoddy or unsafe work done by someone who is a professional is they are supposed to know how to do it right. A home owner has at minimum the excuse it's not their regular every day job.

Take for example this drain pipe run through a heating duct or was it the heating duct put in around the pipe. No matter it's a clear case of shoddiness. What makes this nice little short cut a big problem is;

1. There is asbestos wrapped around the duct and pipe and

2. The drain is galvanized pipe in a house that is over 60 years old.

Something has to give or more precisely give out here at some time. Galvanized pipes have a life expectancy of around 50 years. If the pipe begins to leak it may be doing so inside the heating system duct work. The asbestos just further compounds the problem.

All though home owners are responsible for their share of wacky fixes and projects, the pros can be even more creative in their construction techniques. After all they have a nice collection of fancy tools to get them into trouble.

James Quarello
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JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC

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Tom Boos
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A lot of "contractors" take "shortcuts" through heat ducts.  It's the lazy way to get something done instead of the right way, whcih often takes a bit more effort.  Thanks for your post.

Jul 28, 2009 02:46 AM #1
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Betina Foreman
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It is always better to do it right the first time. That may not be the easy way, but it is the only way.

;)

 

Jul 28, 2009 02:51 AM #2
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Steven L. Smith
King of the House Home Inspection, Inc. - Bellingham, WA
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Mr Jaems,

As a certifried home inspector assistant, in case some people doubt you, I will verify that this is all true. No thanks required.

Nutsy

Jul 28, 2009 03:00 AM #3
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Roy Kelley
Realty Group Referrals - Gaithersburg, MD

Good information. Hard to beat a good home inspection. The older homes can reveal lots of surprises.

Jul 28, 2009 03:13 AM #4
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Andrea Swiedler
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices New England Properties - New Milford, CT
Realtor, Southern Litchfield County CT

OK, I am trying to wrap my head around a drain pipe in a heating duct, never mind the asbestos, fair is fair, materials used before that are not allowed now, well, that's a fact of life. But never could I think that a drain pipe should go down a heating duct. Just doesn't make sense to me.

You always come up with the strangest thing!

Jul 28, 2009 03:55 AM #5
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Kate Kate
San Diego, CA

Ok, since Nutsy has besmirched this post with his "Stomp of Approval" you may have an uphill battle on your hands convincing homeowners that leaky pipes carrying asbestos into their heating system are to be avoided. But no worries, with my comment included here, the tide will turn. Kate

Jul 28, 2009 04:35 AM #6
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James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

Tom, That's why they have all those fancy tools, to get the short cut done quicker.

Betina, One of my favorite sayings: There is never time to do it right, but there is always time to do it over.

Nutsy, You're certifiable.

Roy, Older homes do have their challenges.

Andrea, I prefer interesting. :)

Kate, Your comment has now sucesfully raised the bar on this thread.

Jul 28, 2009 04:54 AM #7
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Steven L. Smith
King of the House Home Inspection, Inc. - Bellingham, WA
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James,

I think most of us inspectors figure that the plumber is the one most likely to create a mess by cutting into structural members that the plumber does not understand.

 

Jul 28, 2009 07:28 AM #8
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Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
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James haven't you heard of home made humidifers?:)

Jul 28, 2009 07:45 AM #9
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James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

Steve, Plumbers and sawzalls = trouble.

Charlie, I have and that ain't it!

Jul 28, 2009 11:11 AM #10
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Kim Curran
RE/MAX Unlimited of Northern Virginia - Bristow, VA

Even I know that is a no-no! Amazing how "creative' fixes can be huh?

Jul 28, 2009 11:14 AM #11
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James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

Kim, Creative is the exact word I use most often to describe work done like the example above.

Jul 28, 2009 10:57 PM #12
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Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

So, which is the chicken and which the egg?

Jul 29, 2009 12:16 AM #13
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James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

Jay, I don't think it really makes a difference, it just needs fixing.

Jul 29, 2009 01:13 AM #14
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Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

I think so too!

Jul 29, 2009 12:27 PM #15
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