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Today's Liberals are Really the "The Man" in Sheep's Clothing

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Back in the 60's anything that represented authority was referred to as "the man". Government, business, maybe even dad all were versions of "the man" and the 60's revolutions were all about undermining the man. Stripping the man of his power or changing him to a her. That generation were true libertarians that believed in free love, free will, free and equal rights, etc..

What is sad is how that movement was hijacked by the man and turned into something so ugly and heinous that today's true hippies are Republicans and Libertarians.

What is just as sad is that normal intelligent people of that generation grew up and are now part of the man's apparatus and they don't even know it.

What is genius is how the man just had to change some semantics and then play a quick shell game and now he is still the man more powerful than ever.

How can people who rallied for free love and free rights, be the same people who now demand that we all wear seat belts, don't use our hands to talk on our phones when we drive, can't own a gun, pay more taxes, and have the state so very involved in all of our lives. 40 years ago, they wanted the man out of their lives and now they fight to get the man more in our lives. How did that happen?

Today they advocate discriminating against  white peopel to advance minorities and yet they were the ones who rallied against all discrimination just 40 years ago. How did their common sense get so hijacked?

It is the Democratic party that is known for expanding government and it's power, yet most of the older Democrats were around when they were fighting National Guard troops in Washington to limit government.

It is like The Who said, "...meet the new boss, same as the old boss..."

History has born it out time and time again. One group overthrows another and then becomes like or even worse than the ones they just threw out. It is sad  that history has repeated itself so many times and yet we don't get the lesson. I'll say it again for you.

This is the problem with centralized power. When power is concentrated it is more easily manipulated. It is really that simple. When our government got so big is when the BIG BAD Corporations thought, "hey if we can control the head, we can control the body".

I advocate cutting off the head, so to speak, by severely limiting the governments' power. By doing so, we are limiting BIG business power and that is a good thing.

Those same people that, even today, rally against big business. but then argue for a more powerful government via Cap n' Trade, or Healthcare Reform, or anything else they want to do are like a dog chasing its tail. Don't they see that voting to give the government more power, makes the head bigger. The bigger the head the more power the corporations that have it in a headlock get. That was the genius of the man.

If you were a hippy, the man took your causes and made them his own so you would be fighting for him and not against him. Now step back and look at what you have created.

For all you revolutionaries out there, the point is to keep your eye on the ball. The 60's revolutions were about stopping the man from keeping us down. What happened though is that those hippies got too rapped up in their individual issues and couldn't see the forest for the trees. They took on causes like free rights and with a narrow mind, championed those causes right into the mans' lap. Now they are his lap dogs. The real cause was always limiting the power of the government first. Then all the other issues could fall into place.

Our forefather's got it. Rather than replacing one monarchy with another, they scaled it back and contained their own ambitions. They foresaw the perils of power and enacted rules and laws to contain it. They knew the dangers in a large overbearing government and they did their best to forestall that. 

We have failed them and ourselves miserably.


John Secor
EXIT Real Estate Results - Winter Springs, FL

CF  - I wonder if you were advancing your subversive anti-government views under the last administration or whether you just decided to join the movement since a black man was elected as your president.  Hippies grow up, racists do not they breed.  Move to an island or Texas and enjoy your tea!

Jul 29, 2009 10:05 AM
Es r
CSR - Huntington, TX



How silly of you. First, yes I was advancing my anti-big government rhetoric during the Bush administration. Actually it was his reelction that openned my eyes to the perils of government and ignorance of the public.

Second, how could you possibly extract that I was a racist from my blog? Is that what you call someone when you can't win a debate with them?

Jul 29, 2009 10:11 AM
Hugh Krone
Weichert Referral Associates - Hamburg, NJ
Realtor, Sussex County NJ


Like the new picture; Don't mind John too much, Obama supporters don't have very much to be happy about lately.

Jul 29, 2009 11:38 AM
Mike Saunders
Retired - Athens, GA

I find it interesting that you are being accused of subversive and anti-government. I find it disgusting that some ignorant bigot would accuse you of racism because you disagree with a policy. But then I consider the source, and, while I understand that he has no reasonable debate, he readily resorts to such heinous accusations.

You should read the book "Liberal Facism" by Johan Goldberg.

Jul 29, 2009 03:37 PM
Es r
CSR - Huntington, TX



I have

Jul 29, 2009 05:26 PM
John Secor
EXIT Real Estate Results - Winter Springs, FL

Sorry guys but re-read my post, I neither implied nor accused anyone of being a racist, just made a statement.  Subversive and anti-governmant yes.

CF - glad to hear you were equally outspoken during the W regime when the storm troopers were a real concern.  I'm not hear to win or lose a debate, simply stating my observations and opinion on the subject matter, for what its worth.

Hugh - I am much more of an America supporter than an Obama supporter, it just so happens BO's agenda supports American ideals far more than the GOP/Libertarian agenda.

Mike - now I'm an ignorant bigot?  I'll hold my tongue georgia boy, you're too typical and much too easy of a target.

Jul 30, 2009 02:02 AM
Tchaka Owen
Galleria International Realty - Hollywood, FL

"What is sad is how that movement was hijacked by the man and turned into something so ugly and heinous that today's true hippies are Republicans and Libertarians."

No way.  Libertarians are today's hippies (and good for them), but not Republicans.

Jul 30, 2009 04:27 AM
Mike Saunders
Retired - Athens, GA

John - really, take your best shot! And yes, at least by your posts, you demonstrate both ignorance and bigotry. I still have a copy of an absolutely disgusting comment you made, but quickly took down serving as a prime example of that, specifically where you flat called me, and any one who disagrees with the current president, a racist. You are as bad as Garofalo, maybe worse.

But from your own words in the first comment:  "...or whether you just decided to join the movement since a black man was elected as your president. Hippies grow up, racists do not they breed." Yeah, that's not accusatory at all!

Jul 30, 2009 05:28 AM
Mike Saunders
Retired - Athens, GA

Tchaka - it depends upon how much of what type of drugs we used and how many brain cells we have left.

Jul 30, 2009 05:29 AM
Es r
CSR - Huntington, TX

John - Your comment sure looks like a subtle implication, but I assume that you must know by now that I am far from a racist. It was a silly card to play, frankly.

I do disagree with you that BO's agenda supports American ideals. Where in the American ideal is it that the government should run anything but defense and the post office? BO is upholding a European ideal, but definitely not an American one. Thanks for your comment.

 I am a Libertarian.

Jul 30, 2009 05:31 AM
Patrick Scott
OConnor Title Guaranty, Inc. - Chicago, IL

CF, I think you are giving the hippies of the '60s and '70s too much credit, and I would not compare them to Libertarians of today.  While the peace-love-dove crowd was certainly interested in advancing certain freedoms, they mostly had to do with their own recreational preferences, not so much constitutional freedoms.  They were also very much interested in saving their asses from being blown off in Viet Nam.

In rejecting the traditional American values of the time, I think a major interest was in rejecting conformity with the norm.  In doing so, they wound up conforming completely with a fad movement, even to the point of adopting the hip lingo and wearing ridiculous-looking bell bottoms.

Today's liberals conform with the notion that a big, benevolent government is a benefit to society.  What they don't seem to get, however, is that the more assistance we accept from our government beyond the necessary, the more control government has over us. 

This will become more apparent as the Obama administration seeks ways to fund its massive health insurance program.  The obese will be heavily taxed on unhealthy food to control their eating habits.  Our behavior will be heavily controlled through taxation.  'Sin taxes' are not a new concept.  They will become more prevalent and will affect more people before we know it.

Jul 30, 2009 08:11 AM
Es r
CSR - Huntington, TX



I totally agree. The 60's and 70's were more of a social revolution, however the spirit of the movement is what I was referring to, not the actual nuts and bolts.

It is sad because today's liberals are selling all of our freedoms. I treat the government like one might treat a liar. They lie once to you and so everything they say after cannot be trusted. In the absence of trust, one must conclude that the statement is a lie just to avoid getting fooled. Even when the liar is not lying, we have to take precautions.

Some government programs are needed and sort of work. But without knowing all the consequences of legislation, I think it better to have none.

Jul 30, 2009 08:31 AM
Bonnie Vaughan
Scranton, PA
CNE SFR - Buyers/Sellers - Lackawanna & Surroundin

Patrick,  I wanted to speak to something you said about Viet Nam.  The protests involved much more than trying to save asses at home.  The hippie movement was a small segment of the population in that age group. Woodstock, joints, acid, Jimmy Hendrix and flower power are synonymous with that group.

We had a draft at the time. If you were enrolled in college you could get a deferment.  The students were not in danger of being sent to Viet Nam.  The most notable anti war protests and the bloodiest were carried out at colleges and universities.  The students ignited more socially responsible members of society to join with them.

 The students who protested and were gunned down at Kent State were not hippies.

"On May 4, l970 members of the Ohio National Guard fired into a crowd of Kent State University demonstrators, killing four and wounding nine Kent State students. The impact of the shootings was dramatic. The event triggered a nationwide student strike that forced hundreds of colleges and universities to close. H. R. Haldeman, a top aide to President Richard Nixon, suggests the shootings had a direct impact on national politics. In The Ends of Power, Haldeman (1978) states that the shootings at Kent State began the slide into Watergate, eventually destroying the Nixon administration. Beyond the direct effects of the May 4th, the shootings have certainly come to symbolize the deep political and social divisions that so sharply divided the country during the Vietnam War era."


These were turbulent times.  Every night after Walter Cronkite the TV screen scrolled the names of those killed in action.  Like credits after a movie they rolled on and on. Name after name.  Day after day.  Year after year.  Everyone knew someone who was killed.

Today people questioned what we are doing in Iraq. To date we have lost about 4,000 American lives since 2001.  Every life is precious and should not be wasted.  Look at the comparison.

During Viet Nam we lost 58,000 plus.  The actual conflict started somewhere around 1964 and lasted until 1975.

We were questioning what the hell we were doing there and why we were spilling American blood.


Sep 04, 2009 03:25 PM
Bonnie Vaughan
Scranton, PA
CNE SFR - Buyers/Sellers - Lackawanna & Surroundin

Christain, Sorry I made such a long post. I have no idea where all the hippies went.  If you are wondering what happened to the activists of the 60's, take a look at the town halls today. We are alive and well and doing what we did then.

Sep 04, 2009 03:28 PM
Broker Nick
South Florida Real Estate & Development, Inc. - Coconut Creek, FL
Broker Nick Relocation Broker Service

To Christian, Mike, Patrick and Bonnie - It looks like we all share our concerns about total government control of all our lives, whereas any dissent the liberals and communists call you a racist because the facts do not support freedom and the Constitution. If all else fails, attack the one who is questioning why our freedoms are being taken away one by one, how our government has taken over 40% of the private sector and with health care it will be over 60% of the private sector in government control.

I call that a communist takeover, perhaps I am just a conspiracy theorist.

Dec 16, 2009 10:00 AM