Todd Bates "The Real Estate Success Program"

Allen,

I am apart of Todd Bates program and I do agree that some of the information he has is dated, BUT he does help you implement systems that will help you increase your business.

I am still apart of his program but I also am with the KinderReese coaching program, and they have given my team a lot of great information.  The two coaches Jay Kinder & Michael Reese are both top agents in their areas and they give tools and marketing ideas that will help you bring in new listings.  (look up Rock Star Real estate Coaching).

Either way if you implement any of these systems you will see some increase in your business.  Call me directly if you have any more questions about the programs 972-468-5499.

Hope this helps!

  I had Joey coming to my association to speak today. The guy is great and have a ton of information. He is really good and interactive.

  When the show ends and he started passing out the paper to sign up for the coaching, people started leaving. I might have signed up but after I got burned once, I decided to check the Internet and found this, which made me to hesitate and decline. I think if they started to get some positive reviews and I finish my GRI and other trainings I might change my mind.

Todd Bates cursed me out in an email response when I tried to get a CD. I reported him to the Denver BBB as he is in Lone Tree, CO and invited him to tell me to f&^( off to my face should he ever get down my way. Be careful...

 I came back from a Joe Stumpf seminar yesterday and even before I consider buying any of his $199 program-in-a-box, I googled him to make sure there were nothing negative that comes out. I didn't see any and there was something physical that I get when I give Joe money. There were a lot of negative results with Todd Bates when I did that, that was when I run for the hills.

 Rhonda, I remember the 201 points during the seminar to validate why we charge so much for commission. There were suppose to be the "systems" that they were suppose to try to help you set up to get leads from Craigslist or your own website, did you get that?

I purchased a system from the Real Estate Success Program.  It was not what they promised.  I think it was deceitful marketing at its worst.  I think there system violates NAR's Code of Ethics.  On top of that, I had to edit my own system.  They even described one whole neighborhood right in the middle of Elk Grove, when it was in South Sacramento. I made it very clear to everyone involved that I was brand new and had never even completed a transaction.  This is just one of the auto responders they sent out, "This consultation is conducted by me who has years of experience in real estate and a specialty in helping buyers find their goal for less.  After helping hundreds of clients this free consultation is the number one aspect that has helped my clients start the home buying process off on the right foot."  "Hundreds of clients,"  How about exactly zero clients.  I paid $4000, upfront, for their system and I had to make them shut the system down. 

I did get through to them.  I was very resistant.  I was promised that the site would be fixed 11/12/2009, 11/17, 11/23, and, in a phone call with James Bridges, that the system would be fixed in 48 hours.  Of course, their were only partial fixes.  I had an attorney send them two letters demanding repayment and have made other attempts to get a refund and it all falls on deaf ears.

At one point, Mr. Bridges said to me, I don't know why you are upset Ray, you are getting phone calls (not an exact quote, but pretty darn close).  It does matter how you get those calls and I will not use the kind of tactics they use, especially when I think their system is un-ethical.

The sad fact is that they do present a compelling case and, when you are introduced to them in your office, they are very hard to resist.  They have taught me two very big lessons:

                     1.  NEVER, EVER BUY ANYTHING SIGHT UNSEEN.

                     2.  NEVER, EVER MAKE A COMPLETE PAYMENT PRIOR TO DELIVERY OF YOUR PRODUCT

If a system is so good, you would not have to pay for it upfront, regardless of their claim that when you see their system you could copy it.                        

Call me anytime if you would like to talk to me about James Bridges, Joseph Bridges, Todd Bates or The Real Estate Success Program.  I would be happy to talk to you 916-698-8414.

If I ever see them at a seminar again, I will run, not walk away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BTW-I have run a small company for most of my life.  I am very easy to do business with.  I have been successful doing business just with a handshake.  No More!

Although I realize this is a very old post I know we agents refer back to these posts for information for years to come. I had signed up for a Todd Bates program and I have ordered his CD's. Although I agree, one on one coaching is not what you are getting, I did get valuable information that I made money from. He has some very practical advice about advertising which I believe is useful. I have also coached with Tom Ferry's group and they could not provide me the basic core principles of advertising that Bates did for a $6 CD as compared to the $12,000 that I paid to Tom Ferry. Tom Ferry did provide the weekly one on one accountability if that is what your need is.

Best wishes!

Thanks yh'al - I almost got sucked in!

Here is the deal with Todd Bates. He is an "in your face" marketing coach! He helped me learn from early on that the business of real estate is about marketing and lead generation. The reason many real estate agents do not understand him is that he is very direct without a lot of fluff and most agents can not comprehend the truth about real estate. Todd is a great guy and very misunderstood by agents on this forum.

Also, James and Joey Bridges are well versed in todays technology and also play a pivotal part in Todds coaching program. Todd gives away a lot of free stuff that can impact your business in many ways.  

Bob, I disagree.  They are the single worst company that I have ever dealt with in real estate or any other business.  

Can someone share what the second letter is to send out on the 1st day for Todd's expired system. It's my understanding you send out 2 letters the 1st day and follow up with calls after that. I have the 1st letter and all other downloads for the system but not sure what the other letter is supposed to be. Thanks!