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I am Seeing Tears from the Seniors

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Real Estate Agent with Rooms Realty

 

Okay, now I am seeing tears from the seniors on our listing appointments and I don't like it one bit. Over the past couple weeks we have had a few listing appointments involving seniors that need to downsize. These sellers are in the over 70 age group, better know as the "Silent Generation".

Since this generation was born in and around the Great Depression they are usually thrifty, they learned to save for a rainy day and were raised to pay off their mortgages and own their homes free and clear. Unlike the generations after them they were also very loyal and generally worked for the same company their whole life. When you talk to them most can remember standing in bread lines, walking to school (usually miles) in old shoes and eating bacon grease with bread.

But now even this generation is starting to feel the effects of the real estate crash. Last week we sat across the kitchen table from an elderly couple that sold their home in 2002 and used the proceeds to purchase a condo for $172,000.  After careful review of the comparables we informed them that they could list the condo for $130,000 but that they should expect a sales price around $120,000 - $125,000.  Then as I look up from my paperwork, I am seeing tears from the seniors sitting across the table from me.

As we try to comfort them - we are reminded of other seniors we have met with this year and like the others they too are scared...

  • worried about their health care or lack of it
  • worried about their pensions
  • wondering what happened to the companies they worked for
  • worried about their children if they should lose their job
  • worried - that they may run out of money

Downsizing is never easy but in Macomb County right now, many seniors are being forced to leave hard earned cash on the table, when they sell. Money they could of used to live on and it's happening more and more. This is why I am see tears from the seniors I meet.

While these seniors were paying their mortgages off or paying cash for their homes, many of their neighbors were putting very little down and getting large mortgages. Now these neighbors are simply walking away - foreclosing and leaving a mess of the property values.

While the "Silent Generation" asks us "When do you think it will turn around?" or "Do you think it will get worse before it gets better?"

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Sybil Campbell
Fernandina Beach, FL
Referral Agent Amelia Island Florida

That is really sad and I know it is difficult for you.  It does not seem fair that they work so hard and are losing about 30% of their original purchase price and yet the like you say the younger people who could not really afford a house are walking away, not too conderned about their credit, because they have time to recoup from it.  I feel for you!

Aug 26, 2009 12:07 PM
Elizabeth Cooper-Golden
Huntsville Alabama Real Estate, (@ Homes Realty Group) - Huntsville, AL
Huntsville AL MLS

Oh my gosh.  This brought tears to my eyes.  I just moved my mother to Huntsville from Nashville last month.  She too sold for a bit less than she thought she would be able to.  It is hard on her, knowing she will never make it back.

I feel so badly for the seniors and do wish I could help all of them.  Heartbreaking, to say the least.  Hang in there and good for you, being such a kind human being!

Aug 26, 2009 01:07 PM
Jamie Dumaine-Russell
RE/MAX Alliance - Branford, CT

There are so many sellers young and old who are facing this dilemna.  While the younger seller may have the advantage of many more years ahead of them to recoup their losses and the opportunity to rebuild again, our seniors are the ones who have worked their fingers to the bone and are suffering the hardest from this economy and real estate market. 

I find myself getting very emotional when I'm with a senior couple who are faced with such uncertainty and make sure I tell them honestly what profit if any or loss they may face if they sell.  I would much rather prefer it if they can stay in their home if at all possible.

Aug 26, 2009 01:38 PM
Barb Szabo, CRS
RE/MAX Above & Beyond - Cleveland, OH
E-pro Realtor, Cleveland Ohio Homes

I never thought I'd see the day when I thought it just might not be a good idea to pay off a house or put a lot of money down. Pretty sad.

Aug 26, 2009 01:54 PM
John DL Arendsen
CREST "BACKYARD' HOMES, ON THE LEVEL General & Manufactured Home Contractor, TAG Real Estate Sales & Investments - Leucadia, CA
Crest Backyard Homes "ADU" dealer & RE Developer

I'm in the Manufactured Home Industry. Talk about TEARS? I've seen enough tears t fill up a swimmimg pool. One of your commenters commented on how old folks can spend more in their last six monthes than they did their entire life. I've gotten a belly full of that. Right down to the state taking anything of value for a grant that takes care of a dying senior and allows the survivor to stay in the home until their death but that and what's left of their social security is it. Many of these once very proud and prosperous folks go out of this world as indigents. It is very very sad.

Aug 26, 2009 02:56 PM
Tatyana Sturm
Exit Realty DTC - Aurora, CO
Denver Realtor, GRI, Denver/ Aurora CO Relocation

I do alot of short sales, what is even worse is when a senior has maximized the equity in their homes, just scrape by, can't make the monthly payments and needs to short sale their home to avoid foreclosure, I feel terrible, now we know we can't rely on social security.

Aug 26, 2009 03:20 PM
Bob & Carolin Benjamin
Benjamin Realty LLC - Gold Canyon, AZ
East Phoenix Arizona Homes

It is very sad -- we see it all the time and it is not seeming to get better.

Aug 26, 2009 03:40 PM
Chris Olsen
Olsen Ziegler Realty - Cleveland, OH
Broker Owner Cleveland Ohio Real Estate

Hi Ed and Cindy -- It's a national shame that this housing mess has unfolded the way it has and especially more so when innocent people who have done the right things all their lives are also now under extreme stress.

Aug 26, 2009 03:45 PM
Betty Saenz
Sky Realty, Austin, Texas - Austin, TX
EcoBroker GRI SRES

So sad!  I know Michigan has been hit hard!!!  My two neighbors are from Michigan.  I feel blessed to be in the Austin, Texas Metro Area market which is only slightly off and predicted to completely rebound.  I have a seller who lost a lot of money in their retirement account.  He really needs his home to sell for TOP dollar.  I wish we as REALTORS could control the market but we can only help our clients get the most money in the shortest time for the current market in the particular city and market area the property is in. 

Aug 26, 2009 04:16 PM
Ed & Cindy Knight
Rooms Realty - Washington Township, MI

Marte - sometimes I think I need a counselor

Lenn - first we see the tears then we see the anger and I am just as mad

Jane - I hope the market turns around

Christine - glad to hear they will still be okay

Marney - the bad thing is we never saw the jump others areas saw

Carol - and this couple is losing both that's why they are downsizing

Jason - I worked with seniors for many years and love to hear them tell stories

Carmen - this was not only funny but scary - wonder if it's true

Carra - welcome aboard and yes I wrote so all could see just how connected we all are and who is affected

Aug 26, 2009 04:37 PM
Leolinda Bowers Real Estate Broker
Leolinda Realty - Surprise, AZ
Sun City Grand in Surprise Arizona

Ed & Cindy,

Working and living and age restricted (55+) communities I see and hear about it every day.  It's a very sad situation.  Having a lower price, staging the home and the house still cannot sell because people who want to buy the house needs to sell theirs.  It's a revolving problem.  

Many seniors need to move due to health reasons.  A reverse mortage will not help if the senior is no longer capable of physically taking care of themselves or they need to go into an assisted living facility.

Aug 26, 2009 06:28 PM
Melissa Grant
A Serendipity World - Greenbackville, VA
The Law of Attraction In Life & Business

This economy and housing market leaves no prisoners behind that's for sure. I cannot tell you how many time I have sat across that very table watching the tears flow. It's sad and it makes me angry. My grandmother, who lived through the depression , never owed a dime in her life, never in credit card debt, is now with end stage COPD and fighting the bill collectors and her home so she can be and die in her home where she wants to be. I have called every debt consolidation business in the book and they can't help her. She is on a fixed income with more going out than coming in. She has maxed out every credit card to pay her mortgage including lines of credit that the banks kept giving her even while knowing she was on fixed income. Because my grandmothers credit score never dipped below an 800 ( and that is putting it mildly ) for years the banks extended her whatever she wanted without even asking. Now, today in times of trouble she did what she never did and swore she would never do. Used all her resources until there is no more. Bail-Out ? Where is hers. She can't even get her mortgage re-worked and her home is worth 1/2 of what she paid.

Aug 26, 2009 10:42 PM
Kathleen Lordbock
Keller Williams Realty Professionals - Baxter, MN
Keller Williams Realty Professionals

The ones who built a home for cash years ago and stuck with it are not losing money on their sale.  They paid $38000 lived there for 55 years and are selling for much more.  The ones who moved around are seeing the big loses. It affects us all and it is sad to sell a home due to health issues etc.  The govt has an answer for everything - don't they?

Aug 27, 2009 02:41 AM
Dave Humphrey, Broker
RE/MAX Marketplace - Celebration, FL
Real Estate Advice You Can TRUST!

This is indeed a tough time to deal with some of our customers. Unfortunately bad things happen in down market times, but we surely do not have to enjoy it.

Aug 27, 2009 03:45 AM
Brad Calef
Coco Plum Realtors - Key Colony Beach, FL

We are seeing these tears almost daily now.  Our friends, our associates our customers and clients alike.  We all need to stand together and help those in need during these tough times.

 

There are countless organizations proividing help to those of us in need at a local level.  We need to support these organizations and we need to spread the word that "some help" is there for all of us. 

 

 

Aug 27, 2009 06:20 AM
Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
Real Estate Broker Retired

It's like night and day between the 2 different generations.  A sad story that's happening all over the country.  They are probably worried too if it gets worse!  Maybe 40K is just the start for them.

Aug 27, 2009 09:54 AM
Jeff Richards
The Data Source - Santee, CA
GreatRealEstateDomainNames

Edand Cindy - That's truly sad.  I thought everyone at the closing table was supposed to be happy.  Unfortunately, I think things are going to get quite a bit worse, before they get better.  The people in power right now are making all the wrong moves, doing the same kinds of things that prolonged the last Depression.           

Aug 27, 2009 04:08 PM
Mark Velasco
West Shores Realty - Whittier, CA
Top Producing Broker Associate

Wow this is sad Ed. I have not experienced this YET. I hope that I do not have to either. Good luck though

Aug 27, 2009 05:23 PM
Ed & Cindy Knight
Rooms Realty - Washington Township, MI

Sorry for the delay -

Chuck - they aree just worried they will run out of money

Bryant - frustrating is an understatement

Chris & Kim - for sure heartbreaking

Sybil - yes and some of them walking away are looking to buy again

Elizabeth - good thing your mom has an agent in the family

Donna - I can't tell you how many listings we walk away from if possible from seniors IF they can stay

Barb - I hear you there paying extra on the mtg or even investing more into the home right now a ???

Aug 28, 2009 09:24 AM
Ed & Cindy Knight
Rooms Realty - Washington Township, MI

John & Janis - it is a shame and a wake up call for all us boomers

Tatyana - until we can stop the SS and foreclosures it will for sure continue

Bob & Carolin - we will not stabilize until we get jobs and stop the above

Chris - stress is bad enough but in our seniors it can make them sick

Betty - yea TX is were everyone went to from MI in the early 80's and seeing many leaving now

Leolinda - many times they decide to sell while they still can Before something happens

Melissa - just not right what's happening and what has happened especially from greedy mtg reps that took advantage of many seniors

Kathleen - the govt allowed this to happen and kept saying all was fine now look at the mess we are in

Dave - we have gone on tons of listing appt this year, gave tons of advice, counseled and spent countless hours with folks - no fun here and no money

Brad - I try to help out but folks like our clients above are not considered "In need"

Aug 28, 2009 10:24 AM