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Overloaded REO Brokers & Agents Who Don't Know What They're Doing

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Real Estate Agent with BangThePhones.com

I recently posted on another AR blog post - Foreclosure U - which has over 100 responses and the topic for me, turned to "overloaded reo brokers".

This is what I wrote:

"Overloaded REO broker" - I like that.

I agree that "overloaded reo brokers" are difficult - or nearly impossible to contact or get a deal done with them. As a qualifier, I am fairly "new" to listing REO's.  I have only been in the biz 3 years - and listing REO's and doing BPO's for about a year.  But I'm very good at it. But with my "lack of experience", I guess take my comments with a grain of salt.

I believe you make a name for yourself in the reo circles. It's like anything else. Reports get done accurately and quickly - things start to happen. I get special requests from my BPO companies who can't find a good agent to do BPO'S in certain areas - high end areas! lol

Anyhow - the thing about "overloaded reo brokers" is - they are pros. They have staff that cut TO THE CHASE.

I don't have an office dedicated to my listings. it's me - and the front desk. What I see is soooooo many agents showing my reo's - and they have NO IDEA that they're completely wasting their time. they send me offers that are like 80k below asking. They spend countless time trying to contact me to "see what the bank wants.."  blah blah blah.

The reo pro's - don't have time to call back some "schlub" (sorry but it's true) who makes 20k a year and doesn't know what they're doing to answer some silly questions.

I am a little nicer - but even with me - i have 4 reo's - 1 in full - another two a week away from full contract and 1 about to hit the market.  And I don't return phone calls that start with..."yeah i have a few questions about your listing on..." - when i already have an at or above asking price offer and the thing is all but wrapped up and this agent calling me - in my little experience - is going to ask me stupid questions and then send me an offer that's 50k below asking price - when it's PRICED TO SELL AND PROBABLY BELOW MARKET - and they don' t know that. 

 

That's THEY'RE problem. I worked hard and fast to learn this business. I read up on things and educated myself. I joined a broker who knew the business. I didn't waste people's time nor my own asking questions about things trying to get information for free on someone else's TIME. 

So I think the reo pro's don't return phone calls - in general - or to a large point - because TIME IS MONEY. And the AM (Asset Manager) rep doesn't really care about the little deals that get messed up - they just want the product MOVED - PERIOD. (With REO broker's - usually a phone call here or there doesn't get returned and a deal here or there falls through - AM's don't care about this stuff at the end of the day.)

Emails are to the point - phone calls are minimal.  Get it ready to list - list it - get offers - get highest and best - get it into contract - period.

That's the real deal with reo's.  That's the "secret".

And to the larger point of the original post (how newbie's are screwing up the professionalism of the reo business) - I would say that the "newbie's" who don't get what I am writing about - or don't know how to perform an accurate bpo - will definitely fall by the wayside. once they realize how much work can be involved in doing a GOOD bpo - and they're getting paid $50 for them - they simply WILL NOT HAVE WHAT IT TAKES TO continue.

For us - the agents/brokers that are committed - sky is the limit - now and for the future.

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Melissa Polce
ERA, Wilkinson Real Estate Charlotte - Huntersville, NC
Lake to Land, I've Got It Covered!

I agree with you on this but its the newbies that have "not alot else" to do that makes the 50 so enticing! My banks have started turning to appraisals...

Sep 20, 2009 02:56 AM
Jeani Codrey
RE/MAX Corridor - New Braunfels, TX
Director of Opportunity & Agent Development

It is a frustrating anomoly that is going to continue to be a part of our daily lives in real estate for the forseeable future.  The REO agents all need to be on top of their game and the agents who decide to step into this part of the business owe it to everyone involved to either learn the game or not get involved.  It is very frustrating to deal with agents who do not understand the REO process and think they can jump into the pond and start dictating to everyone how the cow eats the cabbage!  Good points, thanks for the post...I think that some agents are going to make a lot of money by effectively working the REO market in the days to come!

Sep 20, 2009 03:03 AM
Thomas McGiveron
BangThePhones.com - Sayville, NY
Thomas McGiveron Lic. R.E. Broker Associate

And also - to add to the above.

You list 1 REO - that's a good deal...you get 100's of phone calls from agents. The property shows like 15 times a day.

The "overloaded reo broker" or even me (an up and coming overloaded reo agent) - I'm not going to spend time returning phone calls where there's a very good chance, my time investment there will NOT create income for me.

And THAT'S what this business is about. It's about spending time doing things that make you money or create the opportunity for you to promote a revenue stream for your business.

Calling agents back who don't know what they're doing is a waste of time. It's not to be rude, because I don't believe in being rude but it is simply to save me time for other things...

Sep 20, 2009 03:03 AM
Matt Kofsky
Transaction Realty 500 Reno, Nv. - Reno, NV

I know a lot of agents who feel the same way as you.   A problem with your logic is What happens when you need those people?  They will not want to deal with you.  You will quickly get a bad reputation. 

We take all phone calls.  We log them in.  We had a property that fell out of escrow on Thursday.  We called all of the agents who had inquired about the property on Friday.  Saturday, we have a new offer.

What do you do when you get a price reduction?  We put it in the mls and start calling back agents.

Sep 20, 2009 01:37 PM
Laura Gray
RE/MAX Realty Group - Gaithersburg, MD

Thomas - So what are you going to do when the REO business is no longer your bread and butter. I have built a solid relationship with many of the "overloaded REO agents' in my area and because of that when they do have a fall-out deal or a property that they think may meet one of my clients requirements they contact me immediately.

It seems to me that a few good "PERSONAL" alliances can create more closing than an "Internet" relationship dependent on an "UPLOAD ONLY" relationship. 

Sep 21, 2009 06:42 AM
Frank Sauer
CENTURY 21 Garner Properties - Independence, KY

Selling agents - especially those without a lot of REO experience - can be annoying.  I hear the same questions over and over again.  The best thing to do, in my opinion, is to grin and bear it and be as helpful as possible.

Sep 22, 2009 02:07 AM
Thomas McGiveron
BangThePhones.com - Sayville, NY
Thomas McGiveron Lic. R.E. Broker Associate

At the end of the day - when i receive a phone call that i know is an agent who really doesn't understand what's going on - If i call them - it turns into a q and a - where they are receiving information from me - for free - taking up my time.

that sounds rude - and it is - but i'm not calling them back.  when they leave me a message that they're going to put in an offer of 180k on a 290k reo -

that's a waste of my time...and here's the thing - if they've got a really motivated buyer or they're really serious about pursuing information or submitting an offer - they'll call back.

i get so many calls from agents - and THEY never call back.  so let's just say i have a 36 hour return phone call policy - if the person calls back again - i'm on it - i WILL call them back. 

that's my thing...gotta go -

Oct 03, 2009 01:34 AM
Jackie Connelly-Fornuff
Douglas Elliman Real Estate in Babylon NY - Babylon, NY
"Moving at The Speed of YOU!"

I have no experience with REO's and short sales. I stay away because with my severe lack of knowledge, I do not want to take the chance on dropping the ball and I would have a ton of questions and that would make everyone nuts, lol.

Oct 27, 2009 01:40 AM
Carol Zingone
Berkshire Hathaway Home Services Florida Network Realty - Jacksonville Beach, FL
Global Realtor in Jax Beach, FL - ABR, CRS, CIPS

While I agree time is money, I also know from first hand experience in my market area that the top listing REO agents and brokers, for the most part, do not put a lot of detail into the MLS, other than the CYA language about the property being sold As Is, must close with seller's title company, etc.

What they DO NOT include is a lot of photos showing the true condition of the property, a list of items noted as damaged/needing repair, etc, so I can use my time effectively and "screen" REO listings for my previews, and ultimately for any buyers I may have.  The AM has walked the property. The listing agent has walked the property. This is an easy list to accomplish as the property condition has to be noted in any values of opinion/BPO's.

I am in Florida, and have no choice but to work with REO's and short sales.  I work with highly qualified, motivated buyers who I counsel accordingly when we are looking at REO's about where we need to be price wise, and if it will end up going to highest and best offer.

I think we can all benefit from providing accurate detailed information from the beginning to help the market get a real picture of property condition, and that would probably winnow out quite a few agents and their buyers.

But, for the record, I don't think any agent's time is more valuable than another's - I'm sure there is a way to communicate the property info in your office that would eliminate or at least reduce the need for you to handle every call personally.

Jul 20, 2010 11:44 PM
Thomas McGiveron
BangThePhones.com - Sayville, NY
Thomas McGiveron Lic. R.E. Broker Associate

Carol -

I spend very little time on AR now. I just don't see the true benefit of being on here unless you're recruiting a team or you're a broker recruiting for your office.

Anyhow - I've grown ALOT since this post and I couldn't agree with you more. Even as an REO broker (who's actually seen his reo business come to a halt despite selling EVERY REO listing I've ever gotten) - not one agents time is more valuable than anothers...to a point though.

 

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MANY agents waste their own time doing senseless things that quite frankly - amaze me. I won't go into detail because those of us that make money in this business know what those behaviors are.  So I would say that my time IS more valuable to others because while they make $7.00 an hour - my corporation makes (right now) about $90.00 an hour in total revenue. I actually pay myself only $18.00 an hour  - lol - wow I never thought of that until just now - but I digress - my time IS more valuable than most agents.

Doesn't make me better than them. Just makes my TIME more valuable (to me). :)

 

Hey email me via my website - click the email me link - www.tommcgiveron.com -

I run a foreclosure website - www.islandforeclosures.org - i have nearly 90 members and i just got an idea. email me :)

Jul 23, 2010 05:49 PM