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There is no method to this madness

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Real Estate Agent with First Team Estates

It's been painful trying to educate Buyers and Sellers about our current market.  Rationale is out the window - literally.  More often than not, I need to remind clients to stop listening to the media and to focus solely on their competition.  Yes, they do usually look at me as if I've lost my mind.  But what can I do?

It's my job to do my utmost to help my clients achieve their goals.  Sometimes it makes me appear to be a lunatic.  But what the heck.  They need to stop listening to folks who don't do this for a living every day - and start appreciating that this is WAR.  If they really want a screaming good deal, there may actually be some screaming involved before we're through. It's maddening out there.

Here are a few of the most common falsehoods I frequently need to put right.

Q- Doesn't the bank WANT to sell the house?

(Asked when it takes 4 days, 6 emails and 15 phone calls to get the listing agent to verify that they received our Buyer's offer, only to have them tell us that it sold two days ago and they just didn't "have time to update the MLS" .)   No kidding, I have nothing but time considering I just blew 15 hours on this contract and chasing your butt down to hear how busy YOU are...

A- "Yes, but apparently their listing agent has all the time in the world to waste."

Q- But this is a "Buyer's Market" - I don't want to get involved writing a lot of Counter Offers back and forth just so their agent can hike up the price and make more commission.

A- "Don't worry.  When you write offers THAT low, you won't GET a Counter Offer.  And no, they are not obligated to respond to your offer, or to my calls, emails or faxes.  They can pretty much do what they please..."

Q- What do you mean your Seller isn't going to Counter our Offer?

(Asked by the agent who wrote a $370,000 offer on a fixer home listed for $509,000, when comparable homes just sold in the same tract for $600,000 and there were 5 competing offers written above list price...)

A- "I don't know. Just crazy I guess."  (Refer to the prior answer.)

Q- So do you think we can offer $550,000?

(Asked by the starry eyed buyer who apparently did not read or understand the report I'd just furnished explaining that three identical homes in the same tract sold within the last 90 days for $699,000-$729,000 - all after fewer than 14 days on the market...)

A- (I really say this...)  "Sure we can.  And we can keep writing offers this way until you get bored with having other buyers eat your lunch.  Then we can do it my way.  I'm patient - I'll wait as long as you need to see reason..."   (They come around by offer #4 or 5.  Just for fun, I keep track of what I told them to offer and the actual closing prices.  This type of buyer takes so long to see reason that several deals actually close before theirs will.)

Q- Are you SURE you can't find even one 4000 SF single level foreclosure with an ocean view, 3 car garage, completely updated kitchen, tasteful decor, in the right school district, facing North (actual scenario) priced for 40% below market?

(Asked by the buyer to whom I have just shown that there were a total of 3 foreclosures in that community, which were all snatched up by cash buyers who were thrilled to get a luxury home for $250,000 (8%) below market.) 

A- "Hmmm, crazy isn't it?"  (picture my shrug...) 

I know, I know - cynicism isn't pretty.  But at least I'm still laughing.  If anyone wants to see what's up in the Orange County CA market, here's a terrific report for you -Click Here.  In short, entry level homes are selling in less than two months, foreclosures priced below $500,000 are selling in less than two weeks and those are selling for an average of 103% of list price. So much for "lowballing"...

If you would like any other information about our "OC" market, please visit our web site www.AlisoViejoRE.com or shoot me an email, I'm happy to help in any way I can.

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Allison Stewart
St.Cloud Homes - Saint Cloud, FL
St. Cloud Fl Realtor, Osceola County Real Estate 407-616-9904

WENDY- I LOVED THIS BLOG!  Your responses were hysterical .  Serriously, what are some poeple thinking?

Sep 21, 2009 09:48 AM
Michelle Gibson
Hansen Real Estate Group Inc. - Wellington, FL
REALTOR

Wendy - Those buyer's that listen to me usually end up saving money, time & frustration.  However there are buyer's that need to write 3-4 unrealistic offers to get it out of their system and then realize I'm not lying to them.

Sep 21, 2009 12:08 PM
Patricia Aulson
BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY HOME SERVICES Verani Realty NH Real Estate - Exeter, NH
Realtor - Portsmouth NH Homes-Hampton NH Homes

Drive you crazy doesn't it!  I stay away from short sales and forclosures.  I don't want to get old before my time!

Patricia

Sep 21, 2009 12:48 PM
Theresa Anderson
A New View Staging and Redesign, LLC - Brooklyn Park, MN

Wendy,

I do secretly love cynicism. Your post is hilarious - and just what I needed this evening. Thanks. :)

Sep 21, 2009 01:23 PM
Tammie White, Broker
Franklin Homes Realty LLC - Franklin, TN
Franklin TN Homes for Sale

I also get frustrated with buyers "looking for a deal".  You tell them the local comps and they don't even listen.  I wish these buyers would just turn off the TV.

Sep 21, 2009 01:33 PM
Lana Robbins Realtor ® Licensed Real Estate Broker
Aloha Kai Real Estate - Clearwater, FL
Licensed in Florida, Washington, and Hawai'i

Hi Wendy. The media both local and national are really not helping.  ~ Lana

Sep 21, 2009 02:56 PM
Esko Kiuru
Bethesda, MD

Wendy,

It's hard even for us in the business to comprehend how complicated banks can be with their REOs, and then try explaining that to the consumer who is seeking to buy one of them.

Sep 21, 2009 03:05 PM
Sharon Alters
ONE Sotheby's International Realty 904-673-2308 - Fleming Island, FL
Realtor - Homes for Sale Fleming Island FL

Wendy, welcome to the Rain! You are so right, it is war sometimes when we write a contract! And it's unfortunate some people have to lose a couple or more places before they realize what's going on.

Sep 21, 2009 03:28 PM
Chuck Carstensen
RE/MAX Results - Elk River, MN
Minnesota/Wisconsin Real Estate Expert

The buyers are catching on quicker...I sort of like the first offer being bad and them not getting it...its a good ice breaker.

Sep 21, 2009 03:31 PM
Christine Donovan
Donovan Blatt Realty - Costa Mesa, CA
Broker/Attorney 714-319-9751 DRE01267479 - Costa M

Wendy,

 

Believe me; I feel your pain!  Things have gotten really crazy here in the OC, especially under $500,000.

Sep 21, 2009 04:33 PM
Roland Woodworth
Benchmark Realty - Clarksville, TN
Benchmark Realty

Wendy.. what a great post. This is so true these days with many buyers out there. I have one now who told me that watch all the real estate reality shows and know how the negotiation game works.

Sep 21, 2009 04:59 PM
Mark Velasco
West Shores Realty - Whittier, CA
Top Producing Broker Associate

I know the feeling Wendy. I refer out the unreasonable buyers to my coworkers. If they don't come to their senses...oh well. If they do...I still get 30% with NO DRAMA.

Sep 21, 2009 05:44 PM
Gary Woltal
Keller Williams Realty - Flower Mound, TX
Assoc. Broker Realtor SFR Dallas Ft. Worth

Wendy, I in particular like the lack of counteroffer on the ridiculous offer. A seller's right to be silent...

Sep 22, 2009 01:22 AM
France and Mark Clausen
Realty Austin - Dripping Springs, TX

This is a constant battle here in Austin. Our market has held up relatively well but people watch the national news and try to relate that to the local market. It takes alot of re-educating to bring them back to reality.

Sep 22, 2009 09:55 AM
Mike Henderson
Your complete source for buying HUD homes - Littleton, CO
HUD Home Hub - 303-949-5848

It's our job to educate them and see what is really happening out there in the market.

Sep 22, 2009 06:47 PM
Renée Donohue~Home Photography
Savvy Home Pix - Allegan, MI
Western Michigan Real Estate Photographer

If you can find that ocean view house at 40% below market please let me know :)

I am just as frustrated right now :)

Sep 24, 2009 12:19 AM
Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
Real Estate Broker Retired

Congrats on your feature and welcome to AR.  I like your 'patience' with the 4-5 offers until they learn from your expertise.  You have such finesse with your words!  I get mad after offer #2.  Did ya' learn anything yet there?  I'll guarantee I'm more frustrated then Renee.

Your supposed to answer some of these comments BTW! 

Sep 24, 2009 10:27 AM
Lisa Matykiewicz
United Brokers Group - Gilbert, AZ

Great post and so true.  I guess for now it is keeping life "interesting".  Sometimes the media is definitely not helping.

Sep 26, 2009 03:15 AM
Jenny Durling
L.A. Property Solutions - Los Angeles, CA
For Los Angeles real estate help 213-215-4758

OMG!  I just had this experience for the LAST time with a couple of buyers. I couldn't deal with any more of their " but my friend told me... but my neighor said... ".  These people picked their own home inspector based on a 10 year-old review of inspector on Yelp.com!  After having written 5 offers for them, they still were not listening to me- just everyone else. I finally showed them the door. Sometimes they really DON'T learn!

Sep 26, 2009 06:11 PM
Sandy Shores FL Realtor®, Melbourne Real Estate
M & M Realty of Brevard Inc. - Melbourne, FL
Brevard County Real Estate, Florida's Space Coast

Wendy, Love the post and congratulations on the feature!  It's our job to do the best we can to bring these people down out of the clouds, and sometimes that can be nearly impossible. Some of these properties are so attractively priced, yet buyers are missing out on them, to other buyers, because of the ridiculously low prices that want to offer. We get a call at least once a week from a buyer that wants to purchase a home for pennies on the dollar.

Sep 28, 2009 01:59 AM