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Oh By The Way its the last day so the answer is NO!

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Real Estate Agent with Sandpoint Realty rain@lakeandhomes.com AB36782

I have seen alot of changes through out the years. When I started in Real Estate in the 80's, every deal had to be creative. We had tons of assumable loans, seller financing, and although the interest rates were high people could get a loan. In fact if the buyer got pre approved than they were like gold as long as they didn't run out and buy a car or loose their job.

It seems the only things that close anymore are cash deals and seller financing deals. I was in a class the other day and someone was relating that they had a walk-in the other day that found the perfect property right away but unfortunately they need a loan. Three other people said in unison "I'm sorry, better luck next time". Later on that day I talked to a local lender who is telling me how slow things are and that noone is coming in for loans. I just told him that clients and agents alike are convinced that there are no loans to be had. Start lending and they will come. Were not asking for loans for a house that is falling down to someone with a credit rating of 400 and no job. Just meet us half way here.

In all these years the one thing that has always been consistent is that infamous "Oh by the underwriter needs (something really difficult and that doesn't make sense) to make this close". The "oh by the ways" are really getting ridiculous. I have a condo listed. It isn't suffering from broken condo syndrome and isn't on the foreclosure rolls. It is in a very desirable area, not overpriced, every unit is owned and occupied. We were scheduled to close last Thursday. We knew going in that not all lenders loan on condos so the buyers agent helped them find a bank that would specifically lend on condos. All through the process both the selling agent and I and the title company have been in contact with the lender and making statements like "things are going too smoothly what else do you need?" We finally got the underwriter to ask for one small thing.

All along we have all been told, things are great in fact we can fund earlier than expected. So on Thursday we are waiting for the funds to come in, everyone has signed their docs, and the moving vans are revving up. It's 2 p.m. and the funds never come. We call the lender and find everyone at a training seminar, and we can't find out what is going on. We have buyers who are homeless, and sellers that have a deal that will fall out if this doesn't get fixed fast. Friday comes and we finally get ahold of a live body that says "oh by the way, the underwriter does not want to lend on a condo". Hello, it was a condo 45 days ago, it was a condo 3 days ago when you said we were done and ready to fund. It isn't like it was a house and then changed into a condo last night.

 To all the underwriters out there please remember it is not just figures on a paper, People's well being are almost always hanging in the balance. When you have said we are ready to fund and your supposed to be wiring the money over is not the time to throw in an impossible "Oh by the way"

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Rain Silverhawk Realtor
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Comments (4)

Matt Listro
National Credit Fixers - Matt Listro - Vernon, CT
Your Credit Repair Expert

Wow.  Attention to details - you think they would have noticed it was a condo sooner!

:)

Sep 22, 2009 03:01 AM
Andrew Mooers | 207.532.6573
MOOERS REALTY - Houlton, ME
Northern Maine Real Estate-Aroostook County Broker

We started in 1980 and large FmHA older homes they were kicking out of inventory with 10% down were easy to sell and many in number. First home was 12.25% and what a deal with 16% the norm. Whole different market where creativity was necessary or you die on the vine.

Sep 22, 2009 03:05 AM
Donne Knudsen
Los Angeles & Ventura Counties in CA - Simi Valley, CA
CalState Realty Services

Rain - You were right to suspect something early on.  Typically, within two weeks of submitting the loan package, you will get a conditional approval with a list of prior to doc conditions that need to be fulfilled before docs can be ordered.  The fact that you didn't get this early on was a really good sign that something was wrong.

I don't know who your lender was but if it was a large, national, retail bank (one of the ones that received billions of TARP dollars), then it could have very well been 40+ days before you got your conditional approval and conditions list. 

However, if your lender wasn't one of the big, national, retail banks then that was just an LO who didn't have the intelligence and experience to know better than to submit the file to a lender they knew who wasn't doing condo loans.  A good LO would know who their lenders are that are doing condo loans and a good LO would have sent the file to one of their condo lenders.

I hope your clients was able to take their loan to another lender who could really help them with that condo loan.

Sep 22, 2009 04:34 AM