Lessons Learned

By
Real Estate Broker/Owner with Premier Realty Exclusive MO license #2005035566

Early this morning, I couldn't sleep.  Turning on the TV, I found HGTV and started watching a show about lessons learned in buying a first home. 

One thing that was nice about the show was that the point was to find problems about the purchase, but it seemed like everyone on the show really was overall very happy with their place. 

The items were frustrating though.  As a Realtor, I consider it my job to make sure that many of the occurences don't happen during a transaction.  Some of the items pertained to the decisions of buyers, but as a profesisonal Realtor, its always important to inquire and try to help in derailing these potential problems.

There were several bios on home buyers and the lesson they learned.  The items below are things learned:

1. Read the condo / neighborhood assoiation by-laws.  (in the show, the client didn't get the by-laws until a few days before closing.  WHAT!?!?!)

2. Keep negotiation, including inspection items (the buyer's inspector didn't let them know that the "new roof" was actually a second layer of roofing.  The inspector didn't get on top of the roof!)

3.  Get pre-approved prior to looking (DUH!)

4.  Abandon offering strategies that don't work (the buyer's came in low on a few offers and didn't get anything under contract quick enough).

5.  Make sure updates have been done by a professional. (the inspector focused his inspection on structural mechanical without reviewing the quality of workmanship of the remodeling work AAAARGH!!!).

Overall, the items that came up all seemed preventable.  If any buyer's had the same experience with inspectors in a transaction I was involeved with, that inspector wouldn't need to worry about working with my clients again.  How Crazy!!  An inspector not getting on the roof or only looking at structural elements is just NUTS!  I would think the Realtor would have pointed those things out too?  After all, we are 'real estate experts,' aren't we?

The show was disturbing.  Almost an indictment of the level of professionalism of those helping the buyers.  That is why buyer's should do what they can to get a QUALITY REALTOR to ensure that the entire transaction can have the influence of the most competent professionals in all fields, inspections, title work, lending and Realtors.

Comments (10)

Vickie Nagy
Coldwell Banker Residential Real Estate - Palm Springs, CA
Vickie Jean the Palm Springs Condo Queen

Wow, Chris, you make some really strong points here! Although I must say I agree with what you have to say.

Oct 05, 2009 05:17 PM
John Rakoci
Eagle Realty - North Myrtle Beach, SC
North Myrtle Beach Coastal Carolinas

I saw that segment also and had several questions. 1st was why was so much time and effort spent with a client that was not pre-approved. How unfair it was having a seller under 'pending' for over 2 months. I'm in the south and agree there is little reason for an inspector not to get ON a roof. We do have some very step pitched roofs and many will inspect them with binoculars AND from the attic. In the north, no inspector will get on a roof with the slightest amount of ice or snow. The inspector I always hope my buyers will use is the 1st on my 'suggested' list. Many call him 'Deal Killer' and I call him "Client Protector'. If a deal is killed because a buyer is saved thousands the worst that can happen is we look for another house.

Oct 05, 2009 05:25 PM
Tim Lorenz
TIM LORENZ - Elite Home Sales Team - Mission Viejo, CA
949 874-2247

Yes we need to make sure we have competent professionals that we work with and verify they are.  As for ourselves we need to do our jobs.

Oct 05, 2009 05:25 PM
Robin Rogers
Robin Rogers, Silverbridge Realty, San Antonio, Texas - San Antonio, TX
CRS, TRC, MRP - Real Estate Investment Adviser

That is scary, Chris. All we need is for real estate agents to be portrayed on TV as incompetent, considering we rate slightly above used car sales people in some surveys.

Oct 06, 2009 03:05 AM
the Chris & Lisa Grus Team
Premier Realty Exclusive - Saint Louis, MO
GRI, e-PRO

Maybe it was just me as a professional too.  After my post, I was reminded of some of my tradesman friends;  electricians, plumbers, & carpenters.  They'll walk into a house and notice things that the average person would never even recognize as a problem.  There wasn't a negative slant towards realtors on the show, but as a realtor, I was a bit disturbed.

Oct 07, 2009 01:04 AM
Bob & Leilani Souza
Souza Realty 916.408.5500 - Roseville, CA
Greater Sacramento Area Homes, Land & Investments

Interesting points you brought up, Chris...and like John said above, the roof inspection varies with the region. In my past experience, the home inspectors will take a peek at the roof from a ladder and if they see a red flag on the exterior or interior, they'll recommend on their report that a roof inspector be hired for a full roof inspection.

Leilani

Oct 09, 2009 07:01 PM
the Chris & Lisa Grus Team
Premier Realty Exclusive - Saint Louis, MO
GRI, e-PRO

Agreed, there are some roofs that really aren't safe for a typical inspector to get on unless they have the proper tools and there are conditions (a foot of snow on the roof, ice, etc.) that would obviously limit the accessibility.   My own home's roof is clay tile, and nearly 100 years old, so no competent inspector would start walking around on it either. 

For the record, the show roof was an asphalt shingle roof with some issues that appeared to be noticeable from the ground, but the roof wasn't so steep that it would prohibit an inspector from climbing up there to take a look.

On typical residential roofs, I've never heard of a "roof inspector".  What do they charge, and are they just roofers in disguise?  How come a building inspector can't inspect the roofs in California?

Oct 10, 2009 05:47 PM
Bob & Leilani Souza
Souza Realty 916.408.5500 - Roseville, CA
Greater Sacramento Area Homes, Land & Investments

Chris, in my experience, the roof inspectors are roofing companies that offer roof inspections. My complaint is that it's a conflict of interest, so homeowners just have to "trust" that there were really a few broken tiles that needed replacing, right? They charge ~$100 for a roof inspection. Home inspectors typically don't get up on the roof if it's tile (concrete and especially clay) but if they do inspect a roof, they charge an additional fee for the roof inspection separate from the home inspection.

Leilani

Oct 12, 2009 08:47 AM
the Chris & Lisa Grus Team
Premier Realty Exclusive - Saint Louis, MO
GRI, e-PRO

Leilani,

I suspected that a roof inspector was really  a roofer in disguise.  In St. Louis, about 90% of the roofs are either asphalt shingle or flat tar/ rubber roofs.  Any normal building inspector should be able to inspect them.  The remainder, slate, clay tile, steel, etc. would probably just have an inspection from the ladder.  It would be disturbing to have "roofing inspections" as part of the repertoire of inspections that home buyers here could use because, as you said, it seems to be a conflict of interest, and roofing companies here tend to be less trustworthy than other trades.

Anyway, thanks for your feedback.  Its alwas interesting to hear what other areas contend with :)

Oct 13, 2009 02:45 AM
Bob & Leilani Souza
Souza Realty 916.408.5500 - Roseville, CA
Greater Sacramento Area Homes, Land & Investments

You're welcome! Also, if I happen to be there when the roof inspector comes, I hand him my digital camera and ask for photos...but unfortunately, most of the time, they give appointment "windows" and not specific times. :)

Oct 13, 2009 11:36 AM

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