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MORE MISTAKES REVEALED ON HASAN INVESTIGATION

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As each day passes we learn more about the mistakes made in the investigation of the alleged Fort Hood shooter, Nidal Malik Hasan. I have already removed his rank as I think it is an insult to those who have served us with honor.

It now appears that as early as 2007, red flags were being waved in our faces - and once again (as mentioned in this blog a few days ago) - the "PC mentality" that exists in all branches of our military, seems to have been in the way of someone - ANYONE - doing the right thing with this man.

Back in 2007 Hasan did a powerpoint presentation. According to the Washington Post, this is not what was supposed to happen. It was supposed to be a presentation on a medical topic during his senior year as a psychiatric resident at Walter Reed Medical Center.

Instead, he was put in front of senior military personnel with a 50 slide presentation, and "warned" the officers of "adverse events" if Muslim members of our military were not allowed to be excused war service in the theatres of Iraq and Afghanistan. He wanted them to be classed as "conscientious objectors".

That should have been enough frankly, but there is of course a lot more.

Fox News today on the switch of presentations: Instead, Hasan lectured his supervisors and two dozen mental health staff members on Islam, homicide bombings and threats the military could encounter from Muslims conflicted about fighting against other Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan. A source who attended the presentation told the paper, "It was really strange. The senior doctors looked really upset."

And this quote from the Post article should have sent shivers down everyone's spine. "It's getting harder and harder for Muslims in the service to morally justify being in a military that seems constantly engaged against fellow Muslims."

Look at this - morally justify - INCREDIBLE!!

In a slide entitled "Comments", Hasan's last bullet point is truly chilling: "We love death more then [sic] you love life!"

Fox News again: A classmate of Hasan, meanwhile, told FoxNews.com that the warning signs were all there - the justification of homicide bombings; spewing anti-American hatred; efforts to reach out to Al Qaeda - but that the military treated Hasan with kid gloves, even after giving him a poor performance review.

In my mind, the classmate doesn't get a pass either. He should have reported his colleague.

Lt. Col. Val Finnell, Hasan's classmate at the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md., recalled one time when his classmates were giving presentations in an environmental health class on topics like soil and water contamination. "When it was Hasan's turn, he said, he got up in front of the class and began to speak about his chosen topic, "Is the War on Terror a war on Islam?" Finnell says he raised his hand. "I asked the professor, "What does this topic have to do with environmental health? When he was challenged on his views, Hasan became visibly upset. He became sweaty, he was emotional." - Fox News again.

I understand he was a student. I understand he is in the military, but frankly with what was at stake, he should have kept on shouting until somebody listened - especially when you consider the next comments.

Finnell recalled Hasan telling his classmates and professors, "I'm a Muslim first and I hold the Shariah, the Islamic Law, before the United States Constitution."

Take that in again...

"I'm a Muslim first and I hold the Shariah, the Islamic Law, before the United States Constitution."

It is hard for us to believe that someone who has said those words is allowed to continue to be in the service.

Investigations continue. We know that the Administration doesn't want this to be classed as terrorism. We all know what it was.


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Melissa Anderson
Be My Neighbor Mortgage - San Antonio, TX
Your Texas Lender

I agree he had options, why kill?

Nov 10, 2009 08:57 AM
Scott Smith
Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage - Gloucester, MA
Gloucester & Rockport, Massachusetts

Inna: He should have said he was gay. That way he could would have been kicked out in a skinny minute. Guess it's better to have a radical Muslim murderer in the military than a gay person.

Crossing out murderer, cause that in itself is enough to get expelled from just about everything.

Nov 10, 2009 09:59 AM
Hugh Krone
Weichert Referral Associates - Hamburg, NJ
Realtor, Sussex County NJ

Scott, Good point in #18Life is peculiar sometimes isn't it.

Nov 10, 2009 11:19 AM
Melissa Anderson
Be My Neighbor Mortgage - San Antonio, TX
Your Texas Lender

Georgia- well written response and I agree with you 100%.

 

Nov 10, 2009 11:28 AM
Inna Hardison
ha media group - Orlando, FL
Wordpress for Real Estate & Design, Print HaMedia Group

Georgia - the point is that this guy was trouble and we knew it... The other point is that we just might have to consider something where this does not happen again, and while I can understand some of your disgust - it would probably be better placed on a system where something like that was possible.

See, the AFA is already calling to get rid of all muslims in the military.  That is the kind of kneejerk reaction that a lot of people on the extreme right have no problem with.  All I am trying to figure out is why it was so taboo to discharge or lock up someone who was VOCALLY stating his not only objections to the wars, but posing an actual threat...  Maybe conscientious objector status should be applicalbe to those who enlisted decades before anything objectionable was going on, that's all.

Scott - sad but true...:-(

Nov 10, 2009 12:06 PM
Melissa Anderson
Be My Neighbor Mortgage - San Antonio, TX
Your Texas Lender

Bottom line,

It was not a Catholic, It was not a Jew, It was not a Christian, It was not a Protestant, It was not a Hindu, It was not a Christian Scientist, It was not a Jehovah's Witness, It was not a Atheist, It was not a Molakon.

It was a muslim jihadist, why cant anyone see that? 

Yes- there are many muslims that do not agree with what happened, why are they quiet?  I would be on TV right now disgracing this murderer.

Yes, I know they made a "statement" big deal.  Folks are dead in the name of that religion.  Whether you agree with it or not.

 

 

Nov 10, 2009 12:19 PM
Trey Thurmond
BCR Realtors - College Station, TX
College Station , Texas Homes

I think when all the facts are known they will lead to one thing....he is and was a terrorist plain and simple. I am sick at my stomach watching some of the media tying to excuse the "enemy" .

Nov 10, 2009 02:48 PM
Inna Hardison
ha media group - Orlando, FL
Wordpress for Real Estate & Design, Print HaMedia Group

Georgia - you lost me after blaming the current administration for the actions of this nutjob.  Sorry, can't take the rest of your statements seriously after that... Oh yeah, one more thing - you don't know me from jack, so you've no idea how I live my life, so spare me the assumptions. 

Lastly, I am not accustomed to responding to anonymous posters on here... If you have something to say - and it appears you do, why keep hiding for a while now under the cloak of anonimity? 

Nov 10, 2009 03:09 PM
Bonnie Vaughan
Scranton, PA
CNE SFR - Buyers/Sellers - Lackawanna & Surroundin

Simon,  According to reports I heard today it is rumored there will be multiple arrests in this country very shortly of suspected terrorists.  Some may be connected to the Ft Hood massacre.  This may be bigger than it appears at the moment.

What the majority of Americans fail to realize is that this enemy is unlike any other we have faced.  The enemy is not a single country or nationality.  The enemy is comprised of related splinter groups spread across our nation and infrastructure.  They have infiltrated our neighborhoods and our businesses.  They appear to be living a peaceful life interacting with society.  They are sleepers.  They have the ability to mobilize at will.  It is completely naive to think we are safe.

The DC sniper was executed last night.  For more than 3 weeks 2 people held the Washington DC area in absolute terror. He operated in a 100 mile radius.  One shooting victim was a child on school grounds. 2 people were shot in my town. 

In total 13 people were shot. When a shooting occurred every major artery was in grid lock and every car was searched.  Traffic was at a standstill for 6-8 hours at a time. That is one small example of how terror can be reigned down on us by only two people.  While this was not religiously motivated it was nevertheless a terrorist act by its nature.

It is beyond me why anyone is reluctant to call Ft Hood a terrorist act.

Nov 10, 2009 11:15 PM
Kevin Robinson
Twin Falls, ID
Fractional Developer

Bonnie- It was a terrorist act! There I said it.

Nov 10, 2009 11:54 PM
Melissa Anderson
Be My Neighbor Mortgage - San Antonio, TX
Your Texas Lender

In defense of Georgia- what's this new thing I'm seeing about folks having to state their first, middle and last names, name of company, email, cell number in order to post on AR?  

Maybe some folks don't want all their private info spread out on a political post.

Does that make Georgia's statements less valid?  I don't think so.

After some of the name calling and bitter arguments I have witnessed on AR, I'm also tempted to remove my personal information.

Have a great day everyone! 

Nov 11, 2009 02:25 AM
Bonnie Vaughan
Scranton, PA
CNE SFR - Buyers/Sellers - Lackawanna & Surroundin

Melissa, Considering what some members have engaged in off site, I can understand Georgia's reluctance.  One wishes to avoid being the Sears catalog in the outhouse.

Nov 11, 2009 03:29 AM
Bob Cumiskey
A1 Connection Realty, Inc. - Sun City Center, FL
US Army Retired, Your Sun City Center, Florida ~ Realtor

Simon, It seems the president still can't bring himself to call this what it is. The worst Terrorist attack on American soil since 9-11. 

Nov 11, 2009 03:09 PM
Melissa Anderson
Be My Neighbor Mortgage - San Antonio, TX
Your Texas Lender

I am glad that Georgia can remain without having to disclose his/her blood type in order to debate here.  Talk about socialism.

I'm ready to remove all my personal info and blog in the same fashion.  Hmmm what will my name be?  Stay tuned my friends.

There will be a prize for the first one of my friends that recognizes me, lol.  

Nov 11, 2009 04:34 PM
Kevin Robinson
Twin Falls, ID
Fractional Developer

Our President needs to learn a new word: Terrorist. I bet he will never say it. 

Nov 12, 2009 12:09 AM
Bonnie Vaughan
Scranton, PA
CNE SFR - Buyers/Sellers - Lackawanna & Surroundin

Georgia,  It's like having an unlisted phone number.  You have a right to do it.  If you wish to keep your identity protected for business purposes that's fine.

Nov 12, 2009 02:56 AM
Inna Hardison
ha media group - Orlando, FL
Wordpress for Real Estate & Design, Print HaMedia Group

Bonnie and Melissa - if only everyone who chooses to post anonymously or chooses not to post their phone number were accorded a similar leeway...

But I digress.

Nov 12, 2009 03:39 AM
Bob Cumiskey
A1 Connection Realty, Inc. - Sun City Center, FL
US Army Retired, Your Sun City Center, Florida ~ Realtor

I don't understand the obsession lately with phone numbers.  My number is listed for business purposes.  It is not listed there for someone to check up on me or to call me to discuss a comment I make in the Rain.  If I get a call on a comment, I will simply hang up on them, and if need be, I would remove my number also.

I personally could give a rat's butt if someone has a phone number or business listed.  But, I digress also. 

This blog is about the extremist jihad terrorist that massacred the innocent soldiers and civilians at Fort Hood.

Nov 12, 2009 05:51 AM
Bonnie Vaughan
Scranton, PA
CNE SFR - Buyers/Sellers - Lackawanna & Surroundin

Inna,  since you addressed your digression to me let me state that to achieve anonymity is has to be complete.  A person seeking privacy does not post personal details in a public environment.  That might be like a little bit pregnant.

Nov 12, 2009 08:32 AM
Bonnie Vaughan
Scranton, PA
CNE SFR - Buyers/Sellers - Lackawanna & Surroundin

Inna, since you addressed me I'll state that seeking anonymity is usually a 100% commitment. No shred of identifiable information is available.

Posting personal information, photos, areas of interest and inviting interaction in a public environment is hardly a person seeking privacy. Changing ones phone number abruptly when an interested member attempted to share a common interest is quite rude.

Nov 12, 2009 08:39 AM