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The NAR Predicts Sunshine and Lollipops

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I just returned from the National Association of Realtors convention in San Diego. NAR's chief economist Lawrence Yun spoke to a room packed with REALTORS® and projected that real estate prices would climb about 4% in 2010, while the number of home sales will increase 15%.  He also predicts that foreclosures will peak during the first half of 2010 and that Realtor incomes will go up 20 percent next year.

I'm an optimist. Sometimes I even show Pollyanna tendencies, but I just can't join the partying that is breaking out in real estate offices across the nation based on his predictions.

In newspapers and blogs, the mockery has already begun. Take this typical response to Yun's predictions from The Wallet Pop blog: "The good news: National Association of Realtors chief economist Lawrence Yun is predicting that home prices will rise 4% in 2010. The bad news: Lawrence Yun has never been right about anything in his entire life, ever."

A comment on Yun's prediction on the FreeRepublic website by the Antiyuppie was simply "This guy (Yun) was hired because Baghdad Bob had already been snagged By Al-Jazeira. Really."

The Wall Street Journal's Market Watch reported Yun's predictions and has received 200 comments. The most popular comment as voted on by readers was by Economutt, "Gee, I better run out and buy a house before they're all gone. ;-)"

How many times does an economist have to be wrong before people stop taking him seriously? Why do NAR economists as well as real estate association executives feel the need to serve as cheerleaders?

Wouldn't a good dose of reality serve us, as well as the public, better?

Linda Davis has been selling real estate in Ledyard CT for 32 years. You'll find Linda's profile on her Online Buesiness Card. 

Old Time Rainers keep asking if I'll ever do another Carnac Post.  I'm trying to muster up some predictions for 2010.

 

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Steven Zimmerman
Prudential Best Realty, Inc. - New Port Richey, FL

Linda,

Good morning. I love Real Estate [mostly the Florida's Waterfront Lifestyle I market within my unique Coastal Deep Water Community http://GulfHarbors34652.net ] but really, I have to agree with Michele # 1; Carnac's predictions might well be better for 2010.

Steven Zimmerman Realtor ABR GRI / Prudential Best Realty / GULF HARBORS FL 34652 http://retaggr.com/page/StevenZimmerman

Nov 23, 2009 12:53 AM
Matt Case
Coldwell Banker Schmidt Realtors - Beulah, MI

I've got to say that I didn't feel like Yun was trying to shove sunshine up my pantleg.  I was a bit surprised at his trend numbers for positive growth, but the meat of his presentation provided some statistical review that actually has some value.  The prediction of +4% and +15% was the only thing that seemed pollyannaish, and frankly, I wasn't interested in that pontification anyhow.  

Speaking from a demographic basis, we can be quite certain that the supply/demand curve will not sustain in its' current configuration.  Builders are not building.  People are still being born.  Household creation is at a historic low, and that is creating a pent up reserve of new households which will emerge as the economy allows.

Bonnie:  While I did not attend the commercial forum, I have time and again heard Yun caution of the issues in that market, and as I understand it, NAR hasn't moved away from their concern over Commercial.  That presentation is also available here.

Is NAR pre-disposed to find the positive in real estate?  Sure.  Would you prefer that they searched out the worst aspects and drilled those into consumers heads?  Not me.  It's encouraging, though, to see the statement "Most renters are not qualified and should not be homeowners" featured prominently in the NAR analysis. 

The presentation pointed out a lot of ongoing problems in the market.  We've undergone a tremendous adjustment in our industry, one that will prove to be difficult but not insurmountable for both for consumers and the industry.  I'm highly enthused about my next 5 years in the business, and that enthusiasm is not born of belief that property values are going to do an about face and skyrocket next year.  I'll do better if we just grind this out, knowing I'm smarter and willing to work harder than the next guy.

 

Nov 23, 2009 01:51 AM
Teresa Kistner
Keller Williams Preferred - Schererville, IN
It's all about jobs... Jobs, baby, jobs How can someone buy a house if they aren't working?
Nov 23, 2009 01:54 AM
Mark Warner
RealEspace - Plano, TX

If economists were laid end to end across the US it would probably be a good idea.

Nov 23, 2009 02:26 AM
Tony Hager
United Realty Texas - Denton, TX
Broker
I have to totally agree with #198. I have not been a fan of NAR since they turned on their members and started marketing our own listings back at us. Now they say they are going to make a huge profit on our DATA in a national database. Where do all these profits go? I certainly don't see my dues going down with all this profit we are making as an association?
Nov 23, 2009 02:40 AM
Thomas Johnson
RE/MAX TOP - Houston, TX
SRES, Green

It's all aboiut the DUE$ that are due in December.  Tehy need the cash to $pend on more boondoggles like RPR.

Nov 23, 2009 03:43 AM
Diane Schubach
Laffey Fine Homes - Port Washington, NY
I’m surprised by some of the harsh comments here. As pointed out by many, predicting is not an exact science even when done by so-called experts, so why not be positive? How foolish would the man look if after spending months pushing hard for extended and expanded tax credits, he predicts a tepid year? I agree with those who say that it’s a good time to buy if you want or need to and can afford it; and it’s a good time to sell if you want or need to sell and the conditions are right for the seller. Whether or not the market is optimal shouldn’t enter into it.
Nov 23, 2009 05:08 AM
Debbie Summers
Charles Rutenberg Realty - New Smyrna Beach, FL

WE are going to have 4% appreciation... REALLY?!? 

Central Florida has a long way to go before we see 4% appreciation.

Nov 23, 2009 09:02 AM
Shelly Whitworth
MorSystems.com - Carmel, CA

WOW as long as unemployment keeps going up, so will foreclosures. not to mention option arms are resetting into late 2010... high foreclosures will be around for atleast another year or two is my guess... we are where we have never been before, and those are some rosy numbers up top. CA, FL, NV, AZ will have even longer!!

AND there are so many unknowns like unemployment, new house starts, inflation, new loan mods, bank activity and interference, new regulation and on and on...

That said, positivity and the strength to move through and forward is so important. You can be realistic and still be positive. Easier said than done ;)

Nov 23, 2009 10:12 AM
Linda Davis
RE/MAX Home Team - Gales Ferry, CT

Thank you so much for your informative comments.  I'm working on a follow up about the subject as I take all of your input and let it roll around in my brain for a few days.

Nov 23, 2009 12:43 PM
Linda Davis
RE/MAX Home Team - Gales Ferry, CT

The comments include a bit of everthing from serious to funny and complete with photos and audio! 

Mark Warner gets my "Brevity is the Soul of Wit" award for his comment....

If economists were laid end to end across the US it would probably be a good idea.

 

Nov 23, 2009 12:48 PM
Debra Gould
Staging Diva / Six Elements Inc. - Toronto, ON
The Staging Diva

I've bought 7 houses in 4 cities and dealt with hundreds of real estate agents because I've also been staging homes for 7 years. I have yet to meet an agent who will say "this is a bad time to buy a house".

So why would you be surprised at what the NAR says? Isn't it their job to promote optimism and convince regular people that they still have a need for real estate agents?

Besides, October sales were the highest they've been in 2.5 years!

Nov 24, 2009 02:20 AM
Marilyn Bell
Keller Williams Calabasas Estates - Los Angeles, CA
Selling Los Angeles

I truly believe it is a good time to buy a house in my area.  Is it the best time?  I don't know.  I don't have a crystal ball.  However, I have been telling clients and potential clients (depending on their circumstances) that it's not a good time to sell.  I have also told potential clients in the past it wasn't a good time for them to buy.  Even in what I consider to be a great time to buy, I have often subscribed people to my email campaign about budgeting/credit/finance and told them to hang tight and get their houses (finances) in order before they buy.  I have an investor right now that has cash for an investment property and I've counseled him to pass on several homes lately so he'll get a good one, not just one to get one.  I'd much rather turn someone away who is not in a position to buy.  People will tell just a fraction of people about a good experience versus a bad experience (which could be me putting someone into a house when they aren't ready).  There are many ethical agents out there, and it's a shame we get a bad rep due to so many others... others who often leave the business within a year.

Nov 24, 2009 02:30 AM
Whitney Meddaugh
Re/Max Realty Suburban, Inc. - Shawnee, KS

Isn't it great how everyone thinks they are an expert and the one that knows what will happen?  Nobody knows for sure what will happen and only time will tell. 

We all have decisions to make every day and the biggest one is "What are we going to focus on?". 

 People who succeed focus on what they can control!

Nov 24, 2009 04:25 AM
Bob Krus
Keller Williams Foothills Realty - Evergreen, CO
What About Bob? For All Your Real Estate Needs!

Whitney, This is the most relevant posting on this thread!

Nov 24, 2009 08:04 AM
Christine Donovan
Donovan Blatt Realty - Costa Mesa, CA
Broker/Attorney 714-319-9751 DRE01267479 - Costa M

He's definitely optimistic.  My concern is the mortgage resets as shown in the graph above.

Things are looking up, but this sounds very optimistic.

Nov 24, 2009 08:45 AM
Linda Landry
HomeSmart Realty - Tucson, AZ

Um is Mr. Yun not realizing real estate is local?  Not a prediction that would apply to everyone and everywhere even if he was right.

Nov 25, 2009 01:45 PM
Cathy Sarmento
Granite Real Estate "Cool Team" - Auburn, CA

Here in California we were honored with our Economist from our state board.  It was very interesting, with about the same amount of accuracy as NAR; that the power point slides above thier head as they were touting recovery painted quite a different picture.  I do hope for a better future but feel it is disrespectful of our intellect and misleading to newer agents not to be more honest about the near future.  I think many agents were using this info to decide whether they could hang in there or whether they should consider a new career.  Using false predictions to bolster membership is unconscionable in my opinion.   They should instead focus on basics, technology and "best practices" to clean up our name in the public forum.

Nov 28, 2009 05:58 AM
Charles E. Jack, IV
Charles E. Jack Appraisal & Consulting - Las Vegas, NV
MAI

Just thought I'd wake up this post a bit... It's always fun to see if the forecast was right or not...

Case Schiller shows the Composite 10 CSXR down -1.20% from December 2009 to December 2010.

Case Schiller shows the Composite 20 SPCS20R down -2.38% from December 2009 to December 2010.

The Case Schiller index for San Diego is up 1.71% from December 2009 to December 2010.

May 01, 2011 10:31 AM
Charles E. Jack, IV
Charles E. Jack Appraisal & Consulting - Las Vegas, NV
MAI

OK, here's the official stats from NAR itself:

http://www.realtor.org/files/research/localmarket/ca_sandiego.pdf

http://www.realtor.org/research/research/ehsdata

Oops. Guess home sales in San Diego actually declined. Guess appreciation in San Diego was below the 4.0% forecasted as well.

May 01, 2011 10:51 AM