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Home Inspector with JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC HOI 394

In my world as I would hope in your world certain words or phrases are not generally open to interpretation. I have found there are times when some individuals may buck convention to insert their own logic into conventional wisdom, but most often all of us will see the same meaning in a word.

Take for instances the word maximum or max for short. The word is defined as;

  1. Greatest possible amount: the largest or greatest amount, number, extent, or degree possible or allowed. The stadium seats a maximum of 60,000.

In other words there can be no more than whatever is stated.

Yet sometimes a person doesn't comprehend the word in quite the same way as the masses. Kind of like Nigel Tufnel from Spinal Tap with his amplifiers that "go to 11", the absurdity of the reasoning becomes comical.

The max plus 0

Take for example a common house hold component, the air conditioning compressor. Every unit comes with a data plate which has certain and specific information. One of the little tidbits of important info on them is the maximum allowable circuit breaker size. To exceed the stated size is to create a potential risk of fire.

The stated maximum is put on there by the manufacture after designing and testing the equipment. Additionally by placing this parameter on the unit the manufacturer has accepted liability for their equipment.

But there are mavericks out there in the world who believe that info means nothing.

The pictured data plate states 25 Amps MAX. circuit breaker size. I found a 30 Amp breaker in the electric panel. The home inspection report stated to have a licensed electrician replace the over sized breaker.

Upon re-inspection the breaker had not been changed because the licensed electrician stated on his invoice it was fine. In his world as with Nigel Tufnels' Max means one more than 10.

 

James Quarello
SNEC-ASHI President
NRSB #8SS0022
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC

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James Quarello
Connecticut Home Inspector
Former SNEC-ASHI President
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Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

James, great post---thanks for the wake-up call:)

Nov 24, 2009 09:50 AM
Steven L. Smith
King of the House Home Inspection, Inc. - Bellingham, WA
Bellingham WA Home Inspector

Mr James,

So, if it said 25 amps, as I understand it, we would not be able to safely do more than doubling it to 50 amps. That is how I figure it. Right? 50 amp breaker good. Right?

Nutsy

Nov 24, 2009 03:40 PM
Tom Boos
Sine & Monaghan Realtors, Real Living - Grosse Pointe Farms, MI
Providing the very best of service to Sellers and

OK. . . now I'm going home tonight and checking to make sure my own AC unit is not over-taxing the old circut breaker.  Thanks for pointing this out.

Nov 25, 2009 05:39 AM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

Charlie, Glad to ring the bell ;)

Nutsy, When performing 50 amps would be waaaay to loud. You should tone it down.

Tom, Happy you learned something from my blog.

Nov 25, 2009 11:15 AM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

James you and your family have a great Turkey day!

Nov 25, 2009 11:24 AM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

Charlie same to you and yours. Be sure to get stuffed :)

Nov 25, 2009 11:31 AM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Absolutely my plan----got the 24 lb turkey marinating as we speak:)

Nov 25, 2009 11:37 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Maybe the breaker was fine, as far as breakers go.  It was the size that is not.

I notice that the movie a while ago was not about an 11...  I think max was a 10.

Since 25 was the maximum allowable, could they have put in a 5 or a 10?

Nov 26, 2009 08:51 AM
Steven L. Smith
King of the House Home Inspection, Inc. - Bellingham, WA
Bellingham WA Home Inspector

Mr James,

It seems that you forgot to wish best wishes to your friend Nutsy

Nutsy, your best friend

Nov 27, 2009 01:13 PM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

Jay, I sure they could put in a 5 or a 10, but the A/C won't work. Guess that would solve the problem in another way.

Nutsy, I was looking for you because you were to be the guest of honor on the table. So sorry I missed you, hope you had a happy Thanksgiving.

Nov 27, 2009 10:08 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

(;>)

Nov 27, 2009 11:39 PM
Reuben Saltzman
Structure Tech Home Inspections - Minneapolis, MN
Delivering the Unbiased Truth.

James- I see that same defect on air conditioners ALL THE TIME!  Even on new construction... all the time.  

What really bugs me is that the electrician was paid to come out and fix a problem, but didn't do anything.  This is such a cheap, easy fix!  Sounds like the electrician might have been a friend of the seller.

Dec 06, 2009 01:16 PM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

Reuben, I have had this happen before with other electricians. There are some who believe there is "wiggle room" around the requirement. They just don't understand the meaning of the tag.

Dec 06, 2009 10:00 PM