WOW! I Screwed Up BIG!!! Mispriced My Listing $530,000 Less Than I Should've!!!! C'Mon, Man!!!!

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with Garrigus Real Estate CalBRE# 01844442/01844441

WOW! I Screwed Up BIG!!! Mispriced My Listing $530,000 Less Than I Should've!!!! C'Mon, Man!!!! - Beaumont CA REALTORS

 

WHAT!?!?! We took a Listing in Fairway Canyon, Beaumont CA and Priced it at 200K, but Found Another Listing "Comp" at $730,000!?!?!

 

Quick scenario. We took a listing this past week in Fairway Canyon, in Beaumont CA. We did our job and pulled comparables from sold properties within the area. Compared square footage, distance from subject, etc. and so on...

We then uploaded the listing to our local MLS, and proceeded to market the property on-line. When we then received a lead from an interested party we contacted them to discuss.

Everything was fine BUT-

Our lead, he proceeded to tell us there was a property down the street selling their house for A LOT more than ours, and what was the deal???

To preempt, WE DO NOT COMP LISTINGS IN THIS CURRENT MARKET!!!! It doesn't make any sense. Inventory only sells for what has sold. Listing comps can be deceiving even in the best markets- case in point...

I looked up the over-priced home down the street and WOW! Was my new lead ever right! Our listing was priced per square foot at $73.40, but theirs is priced over $221 per square foot! To be fair our listing is only 2,711 square feet, and theirs is 3,300, and we kind of under-priced ours a tad to bring in quick offers- but Come On, Man!!! Their listing is over three times the fair price!!! C'Mon, Man!!!

I looked up the records on the over-priced home, and their price is within what they currently owe, minus commission fees. They bought at the peak in 2006!!! C'Mon, Man!!!!

Agents that do this... Don't. The leads you get from this is not fruitful. Be honest with your prospective clients. Tell them what you, and the data, really think about the value of their home. If they don't like it, respectfully move on. In the end you won't waste their time, or your own. Not to mention you will keep your reputation intact with other potential clients, and other agents.

...and yes, CMon, Man! is my ESPN football reference. Go Broncos!!! (and Cowboys- gotta appease the wife...)

 

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Todd & Devona Garrigus

Broker / REALTORS®

951.490.3698 | Direct for Todd
951.490.3683 | Direct for Devona

www.GarrigusRealEstate.com
CalBRE# 01844442/01844441

Comments (88)

Emily Lowe
The Lipman Group | Sotheby's International Realty - Nashville, TN
Nashville TN Realtor

I do look at the actives to price my sellers a bit more aggressively.  In this case, you definitely did that!!!  I wrote a post like this on another property that was $200K less than the one across the street - and the other agent totally lost it with me...  hope that doesn't happen with you as well!

Dec 16, 2009 08:32 AM
Todd & Devona Garrigus
Garrigus Real Estate - Beaumont, CA
Broker / REALTORS®

Guess I'm not the only one perturbed at the over-pricing of a property just to get a listing and sign in the yard!

BTW, I love the responses with reference to your favorite football team! C'Mon Man!!!!

-Broncos in the playoffs!!! (hopefully:)

Thank you for your comments!

Dec 16, 2009 09:44 AM
Barb Szabo, CRS
RE/MAX Above & Beyond - Cleveland, OH
E-pro Realtor, Cleveland Ohio Homes

I just attended an ethics course today where we were, of course, handed a copy of the code of ethics in which it was stated that an agent will not "intentionally mislead the seller as to market value". I think they failed on this one.

Dec 16, 2009 10:50 AM
Damon Gettier
Damon Gettier & Associates, REALTORS- Roanoke Va Short Sale Expert - Roanoke, VA
Broker/Owner ABRM, GRI, CDPE

Todd and Devona, I see a lot of this lately.  Not to this exent but I still see a lot.  I do pull active comps just to show what the competition is doing but I would never price according to active listings.

Dec 16, 2009 10:55 AM
Mike & Kathleen Kelly
HICKORY REAL ESTATE GROUP - Hickory, NC
Hickory NC REALTORS

Good news - that overpriced listing will help sell yours.

Good luck,

Mike

Dec 16, 2009 11:29 AM
John Elwell
CENTURY 21 Bill Nye Realty, Inc. - Zephyrhills, FL
You Deserve a Full-Time Agent, Not Reduced Results

Imagine that, an over-priced home. Sometimes it is because an agent is unethically trying to get a listing that he will then hammer the owners into lowering the price later on. Or, more likely, the owner swore his/her house was so special that it deserved to be offered way above the current market prices and the agent decided to play along.

In either case both the agent and the seller will end up losing in the end. And, unfortunately, it will also cause problems for other listers in the area. However, since the difference is so much, only a fool would not realize what was going on and would instead rely on their own agent's abilities.

How sad it is that agents are still taking over-priced listings. Yet they will swear that the practice is terrible. Then the very next day they will rationalize why they had to take one that they know will not sell at the list price or anything near it. Worse, they then ask ME or YOU for feedback to use to get the seller to drop the price. Sorry kiddo, not playing along with that one.

And in the end, guess what, the appraiser will come in and yank the rug out from under most of the financed sales since the home will not appraise out. :) Surprise!!!

PS In reference to a comment above, here in Florida our appraisers will NOT use an active listing or pending listing to determine the value of a property. Only sold properties are used in calculations. So I do not see an agent that takes a property at 300% over the competition doing anything to drive up the market. Unless he can sell it for that price, it should have no effect whatsoever on the appraiser's results. At least not in Florida.

Also, it is an ethics violation to mislead a seller to get a listing, but if you make it clear that you think the home is worth $Y and the seller insists that it is worth $YYY, I am not sure that you are in a violation by taking it. Foolish perhaps, but not unethical. Afterall, you did first tell the customer what you thought it was worth. I he/she decides to disregard your advice, one would think that was then their problem not a violation on your part. Would love to hear NAR's expert weigh in on that one in the NAR magazine.

Dec 16, 2009 11:47 AM
Lane Bailey
Century 21 Results Realty - Suwanee, GA
Realtor & Car Guy

Ah yes... Buying the listing.  A great strategy for failure... in a bad way. 

Dec 16, 2009 12:35 PM
Paul Burns
Century21 Countryside Realty Ltd. - Riverview, NB

The old method of "what do you want" plus a commission is no way to work in this or any other market.  REALTORs are hired to be professionals and to price according to market data, otherwise, why would a person pay our commissions?  If you went to your stock broker and he/she said - "I don't know, what do you think you should invest in?" you would leave.

We have to earn our keep.

Dec 16, 2009 12:37 PM
Nathan Tutas
Tutas Towne Realty, Inc. - Davenport, FL
Your Central Florida Real Estate Expert

It sounds like "YOU GOT JACKED UP!!!"  LOL  Sorry, I had to. I see a lot of listings where it is painfully obvious that the listing agent never even looked in the MLS at all never mind looking at solds.

Dec 16, 2009 02:55 PM
Roland Woodworth
eXp Realty - Clarksville, TN
eXp Realty

WOW... I'm sure the well over priced homewillbe be on the maket well after your listing has sold

Dec 16, 2009 03:06 PM
Christine Donovan
Donovan Blatt Realty - Costa Mesa, CA
Broker/Attorney 714-319-9751 DRE01267479 - Costa M

This sounds like an extreme case of overpricing.  I think Kris may have a point that they've listed it for a reason other than a true intention to sell it.

Dec 16, 2009 03:16 PM
Aaron Vaughn, REALTOR© 830-358-0455
eXp Realty - Canyon Lake, TX
My knowledge is your power | eXp Realty

This was an interesting way to make your point. But you point was excellent -- you do nobody any good by taking over-priced listings.

Dec 16, 2009 05:19 PM
Wendy Rich-Soto, Realtor/Broker Associate
Keller Williams Realty, South Bay - San Pedro, CA
Getting you to your next with a zero failure rate!

Yep Yep Yep you sell in spite of the one who is asking too much!  They did you a favor!  Cool Man!!  :-)

Dec 16, 2009 05:47 PM
David Dee
RMX REALTY - Alhambra, CA
Real Estate - San Gabriel Valley (L.A.) & N. Orang

From the desk of David Dee,

Looks like you priced it right and probably will end up selling the other overpriced listing when they realized it is not moving. Just tell them, c'mon man! Let's get it sold! :)

Dec 16, 2009 07:49 PM
Linda Lohman
Fonville Morisey Realty - Cary, NC
Former Teacher/Broker

This business ceases to amaze me.  Best of luck!!!!

Dec 17, 2009 06:05 AM
Sherry Chastain
Hendersonville, Nashville, Old Hickory, Lebanon Tennessee - Hendersonville, TN
Realtor, Selling Homes, Lake Properties,Luxury Homes,Short Sales

My favorite line to sellers is "I'm not here to be your friend, I'm a professional I'm here to tell you what it would take to get your home sold."

Dec 17, 2009 08:39 AM
Kim Knox
Landline Real Estate, LLC of Southern Oregon - Medford, OR
Principal Broker

I would call that listing agent and ask if they want to host an open house on the same weekend.   =)

Dec 17, 2009 12:09 PM
Bryan Griffis
Chapman Realty - Brunswick, GA
Realtor Homes in Brunswick, GA., St. Simons Island, and Glynn County

Well, I would like to play devil's advocate here. 

Clearly, you have underpriced the home by $530,000 because you don't know what you are doing!  You need to get with this other agent's game plan.  I mean, he does have a $700,000 listing and your's is only in the $200,000 range.

In 5 years, I really have only had one person walk away really disgusted with me.  I took a listing that I knew to be too much.  I asked my sales manager what I should do and her response was "take the listing, better you have it than someone else".  That seller eventually pulled the listing from me and sold the house for half with someone else (after 2+years on the market).  Good for you for informing your seller appropriately.

Dec 17, 2009 03:07 PM
Harris Booker
Coldwell Banker Top Team - Ontario, CA

If a Realtor has a seller that won't listen to his/her advice as a professional. Start steppin'. You'll probably have problems with them down the road.

Dec 18, 2009 04:47 AM
Tracey Martin
Realty World Premier Associates - Salinas, CA

Over-pricing a listing can cause a huge problem for short sale agents. In short sales, lenders normally require a BPO.  BPO agents are required to use active and sold comps. From personal experience I know that there are times when the BPO agent knows the active comps. they are using are over-priced, but they have to use them because there is nothing else available.The bank looks at the BPO. Because they aren't familiar with the area, they base their approval or denial of the sale on inaccurate information.  Very frustrating. Who's interest does the listing agent think he/she is looking out for? Over-pricing a listing creates a lose/lose situation for everyone, especially the seller who now has unrealistic expectations.       

Dec 18, 2009 06:45 AM

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