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Bank of America & Equator: Are We Guinea Pigs on a Treadmill?

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with Rulnick Realty, Inc.

 

Bank of America short sales

If you haven’t heard recently, Bank of America short sales are getting even… well, weirder.  Their new plan is to implement an online system where real estate agents and borrowers can upload their own short sale information.  It sounds great-- and it would be--if it worked.  OK, you might have heard one or two success stories, but I can tell you from practical experience, until this system is refined your Bank of America short sales might take… longer! 

The new system is called Equator, formally REOTrans.  It is really a jerry-rigged uploading site that is also used for foreclosure (REO) offers to Bank of America. Here is my experience with it so far.

Day 1:  I fax in my package to Bank of America for a new Destin short sale

Day 7:  I call in to confirm the fax was received, as it takes Bank of America several days to recognize new faxes.  No, and they cannot find my loan number.  There is no such loan number!  Huh?  I call my seller.  She says the loan number was changed in the past week.

Day 10:  After faxing in a new authorization, I call Bank of America (BOFA) back with the new loan number.  They said they changed the loan number because this file is going to their new online system, Equator.  They instruct me to upload my short sale package online.  My seller must also call in to get her own special password to use the system and upload her own financial documents.

Day 11:  My seller calls BOFA during the day from work.  She is on hold over one hour and transferred twice.  During her hold time, she emails me “Still on hold, but they ‘look forward to talking’ with me soon’”.  After she completes her call she tells me “I cannot believe this is what you deal with all day”.  She forwards me her password so I may upload all her documents for her.  This means, all the tax returns, bank statements, financial worksheet, paystubs, etc.  Each document must be scanned into our computer system as a separate file so we can upload them when asked.

Day 12:  We try to access Equator with my seller’s password.  Login fails.  No luck.  

Day 13: We log in under my agent id.  Here we upload our authorization and answer questions about the offer.  Non-invasive questions like, “What is the buyer’s birth date?  What are the first five digits of the buyer’s social security?” 

FINALLY, we get to the offer amount.  Let’s use $160,000 as an example.  OFFER REJECTED – insufficient.  HUH?  The last sale in this Destin condo complex was $150,000.  So, why is our $160,000 offer insufficient?  Who can I talk to?  The machine?  I call Bank of America and they repeat, the system says “insufficient”, didn’t I get a rejection email?  “From generic.negotiator@bankofamerica.com”, I told  them.  Well, that is who you should email, I am told by the BOFA rep.  "You are kidding, I am to email the “generic” negotiator?"  The rep says, "Yes, that email is checked by different negotiators all day".  OK, who am I to question the authority of Bank of America?  I email generic.negotiator@bankofamerica.com (like an idiot) and of course the email address is invalid.

Day 14: Today.  Plan B.  I’ll let you know how it goes.  And I wish you better luck with Equator.

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Wendy Rulnick, Broker, CRP, CRS, GRI, ABR     Rulnick Realty, Inc.

Destin FL Real Estate

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Jeff Payne
The Payne Group at Keller Williams Success Realty - Panama City, FL
Panama City Real Estate

So far I like the system, I have several that are moving faster than normal BofA short sales, the toughest part is getting the seller set up. I talked with Brian Moynihan (CEO)'s assistant today and I think that the new administration is going to try to speed things up,  I asked them to do a webinar on Equator so that everyone can be clear on what to do.  I am also talking with someone from Equator to do the same with a webinar.....

Jan 13, 2010 02:53 AM
Rebecca Gaujot, Realtor®
Lewisburg, WV
Lewisburg WV, the go to agent for all real estate

What a headache for both you and the buyer. I am hoping it gets easier in the coming months.

Jan 13, 2010 04:25 AM
Wendy Rulnick
Rulnick Realty, Inc. - Destin, FL
"It's Wendy... It's Sold!"

Andrew - We are not alone....!

Bill - Plan B is on the right track, I never give up.

Jody - When the "real" person tells me to email fake email addresses, what is the use?

Dedra - Unfortunately, BOFA is 60-70% of my short sale business.

Jeff - When they have a written list of tasks, what order, and done by whom, that they ALL know, then it will be better.  I called three days in a row, got three different answers.

Rebecca - I think it will, I just don't like their business decision to use us as gunea pigs.

Jan 13, 2010 09:24 AM
Wendy Rulnick
Rulnick Realty, Inc. - Destin, FL
"It's Wendy... It's Sold!"

Judy - YES.  Problem when seller does not have the capacity to scan.  In that case, if he turns it all over to the agent, there are about 20 personal financial questions to answer.  The seller tasks cannot be partially completed, meaning, you have to have all the answers plus upload in one sitting or the system rejects the task.

Jan 13, 2010 09:46 AM
Sally K. & David L. Hanson
EXP Realty 414-525-0563 - Brookfield, WI
WI Real Estate Agents - Luxury - Divorce

  Sounds like the equator program must "go south"....upload one at a time...now there's a time saver...I still say that if Bill Gates' pals had a mind to it or fot it...we could all live happily ever after with a program that made sense....it may lessen employment for what David and I call the "$8 an hour...just say no" folks....but then the goal here is not increasing employment....we know you will keep us tuned in !

Jan 13, 2010 10:11 PM
Wendy Rulnick
Rulnick Realty, Inc. - Destin, FL
"It's Wendy... It's Sold!"

Sally & David - This was my Rant Post on Equator.  I think I cracked the nut yesterday.  I will write a post about it with my recommended approach soon :)

Gabe - When you call a company and they give you a different answer each day, that is a clue they are clueless.  It costs  us money, the seller time and money and brings down the whole economy.

Jan 13, 2010 11:57 PM
Kim Bartells
TC Business Management, LLC - www.TCMandD.com - Perkasie, PA
Result Driven Real Estat - Marketing Expert

Yes, it definitely isn't an easy system to use, but BofA was never easy to work with.  If they can get this straightened out, I think it might be a lot easier.  Faxing was horrible!  If I can upload it somewhere and know that they have it, I feel a lot better.  Now we just have to get them to look at it!

Yeah, and what's with these BPO values???  I'm getting offers turned down left and right.  And once they get a value, they want the FULL amount (minus expenses) verses being willing to accept 20% of the BPo value.

These banks are shooting themselves in the foot - AGAIN!

Jan 14, 2010 02:14 AM
Jeff Payne
The Payne Group at Keller Williams Success Realty - Panama City, FL
Panama City Real Estate

I am with you Wendy, they do need to work on the new system.  I am asking for a webinar at the very minimum so that we understand.

The only thing that I can think of for those sellers who are tech challenged, we can still gather their paperwork and submit it for them providing we have their user name and password. 

The files that I have with Equator so far have already been assigned to negotiators and have ordered BPOS within the first week.  We shall see where it goes from here.

Jeff

Jan 14, 2010 03:30 AM
Steve Shatsky
Dallas, TX

Hi Wendy... I HATE EQUATOR!  BTW, not everyone at BofA has access to it, so if you use it and need to actually get an answer to a matter related to the sale and call someone at BofA it's like shooting craps if they will even be able to see a status for a transaction in Equator.  

This may require a phone call to share my Equator horror story with you! :)

Jan 14, 2010 02:49 PM
Christine Donovan
Donovan Blatt Realty - Costa Mesa, CA
Broker/Attorney 714-319-9751 DRE01267479 - Costa M

Wendy - I just don't want to hear this, as I'm in the process of uploading to Equator one that they closed because the buyer wouldn't come up high enough.

Jan 14, 2010 04:17 PM
Bryant Tutas
Tutas Towne Realty, Inc and Garden Views Realty, LLC - Winter Garden, FL
Selling Florida one home at a time

Yikes!! I have a package to submit next week. Do we have to use the system? I have a BofA that scans all of packages in for me and acceptes them via email. Should I try her first?

Jan 16, 2010 09:49 AM
Wendy Rulnick
Rulnick Realty, Inc. - Destin, FL
"It's Wendy... It's Sold!"

Bryant - I would avoid the system until they get the bugs out.  I have received conflicting information about the requirement of using Equator.  (Every day I get conflicting information.)  What I wrote here is only a tiny portion of the hours my team and seller have spent on working for Bank of America this week.

Jan 16, 2010 09:52 AM
Melissa Zavala
Broadpoint Properties - Escondido, CA
Broker, Escondido Real Estate, San Diego County

Wendy: I have like 10 short sales in the system, and I have mixed feelings about it. You can log in (with your own Equator login) and then initiate the short sale with about 5 clicks. You will then receive an email when they are ready for you to upload all of the stuff. There are many downsides . . .but perhaps I'll save those for a blog.

Jan 16, 2010 10:36 AM
Terrie Leighton
Ferrari-Lund Real Estate - Reno, NV
Reno Real Estate Agent ~ Selling Homes in Reno

Ugh! This sounds like "my" story! The bank insisted my seller get a email and upload her personal information (same info they asked me to upload) and the email password they gave her did not work! I am actually in libmo right now waiting to see what will happen next!

I was so excited when I heard about this new program I even wrote a blog about it! Now...well I am not so excited about it. I will look for your updated post to see what happened with your property.

Best of luck!

Jan 18, 2010 09:05 AM
Melinda (Mel) Peterson
Grants Pass, OR - Bend, OR
The Savvy Broker - ABR, CRS

BofA... one of the largest banks in the nation, and yet lacking big time when it comes to Short Sales. 

Feb 10, 2010 02:57 AM
Damon Botticelli
Vegas Real Estate Photography - Las Vegas, NV
Real Estate Photographer

RE: Equator requires the buyer's b-day and ss...

Does anyone know what to do about the buyer birthdate and social security number when the buyer is an llc or trust?

Mar 05, 2010 03:34 PM
Noel Agarma
Agarma Realty Inc. - Chula Vista, CA

OMG...Very discouraging to the whole short sale community. I am about to submit a file through equator. Hope it works out.

Mar 09, 2010 09:43 AM
Donna Wall
RE/MAX DFW Associates - Irving, TX

Wendy I just saw your blog about Equator.com.  I have a similar experience without the pre-headache.  I was just told to put in the offer and close date. Whats with that???  I didn't have to download anything. However it immediately rejected it.  The problem is how can equator.com know the condition of that property?  This property has had the carpet ripped up because it was so terrible...mold on the ceiling, the air conditioner needs to be replaced, the entire interior needs paint, there are windows broken out and doors missing....who is going to pay top dollar for THAT?  This is a bunch of  baloney.....how can Bank of America reject or accept an offer without a condition report?  I'm at a loss.

Have you figured out anything on who to contact?   

 

May 24, 2010 10:52 AM
Wendy Rulnick
Rulnick Realty, Inc. - Destin, FL
"It's Wendy... It's Sold!"

Donna - The only thing we did in a similar situation was enter a higher price that the system accepted, then corrected the price on the following screens.  It triggered a new BPO and we ended up getting our contract acceptecd, because we knew the price was in line with the market.

May 24, 2010 11:16 AM
Coldwell Banker Camelot Realty
Coldwell Banker Camelot Realty - Mount Dora, FL
Homes for Sale Mount Dora Realtor

Bank Of America = Deliberate ignorance

They know it too...

Jun 16, 2010 02:38 PM