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HUD announces 120-day retraint for new RESPA enforcement - But will it save my paycheck?

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HUD announces 120-day Retraint for enforcement of the new Real Estate Settlement Procedures Act (RESPA)... but will it save my paycheck? 

gfeI recently wrote a post about the new 2010 Good Faith Estimate form. Looks like the powers that be are going to give everyone a break while we get this mess straightened out.

Now that I have a several Sacramento mortgage applications under my belt since the new change, I can tell you this new form has led to some real confusion for borrowers. Although I mentioned that this new Good Faith Estimate is laid out in a much more user friendly way (I am trying to remain positive here)... there are some really big missing pieces of information the consumer needs to make a decision.

This like...

  • How much money they need to close the deal!
  • How much their complete monthly payment is!
    The current form's payment does not include taxes and insurance... this is just stupid! Talk about not giving the clients all the information they need to make a decision.

.....Insert BIG SIGH here.....

Do you know how difficult it is to sit down with a new client and not be able to provide them with the information they need to make a decision?

You see consumers have been trained to look at the Good Faith Estimate for their answer.  Since the new 2010 Good Faith Estimate Form has been implemented, we find ourselves saying things like .... You are just going to have to trust me.... And... Ignore this form and look at this one instead to get your answer! It is just ridiculous! We are supposed to be professionals here. 

I think my corporate office said it best...."Never in my 25 plus years in the mortgage business, have I seen the implementation of a change bring our entire industry to a screeching halt.  You have to at least chuckle (a little) that our business is all about "numbers" and we can't figure out how to get them right."

After the initial shock of how crappy this new Good Faith Estimate Form is and several hours on the phone with the powers that be... We have got a company policy in place to complete these forms. The problem is every lender has a different interpretation of how this new Good Faith Estimate should be completed.

Even though HUD recently announced a 120-day retraint in RESPA enforcement rule 2010 (giving the lenders and banks a break if their files are audited) .... It still does not mean our paychecks are not at risk!

You see it is up to the wholesale lender to determine if we have completed this disclosure right or not. The new form makes us responsible for many of the fees in the transaction. So not only do we have to get our fees exact... Which is fine by me since we honor our fees anyways... BUT (depending on the lender's interpretation) we could be responsible for titles fees, recording fees, pest inspection fees, city transfer fees...!  Some of these fees fall into a category that only allows for a 10% variance in price from the original quote. If we are wrong or got bad information... we eat the difference!

To say the least these first couple weeks of 2010 have been interesting! To be safe in the beginning we padded the heck out of the Good Faith Estimate to make sure we built in cushion for ourselves. This is not fair to the borrower frankly because they are not getting a true estimate!

It is what it is and we are all still trying to work out the kinks. We have mentally prepared for some loss in commission and if and when it happens... we will not be surprised.

Just another day in the life of a Sacramento mortgage broker!

**** Many of the wholesale lenders sent out emails that described this 120 day period as a moratorium... I found that verbiage to confuse people and have since updated my post to reflect HUD's press release above. *****

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Christopher Pataki
RE/MAX Associates - Hockessin, DE
Hockessin Delaware Realtor

Finally a logical decision in the plans to "fix this housing mess".   Now we just need to work on the appraisal situations.............................chris

Jan 15, 2010 12:31 AM
Fred Glick
arrivva, inc. - San Francisco, CA
We fixed real estate

I am so happy to have the new GFE.

I know how to do it, I know how to explain it and it gets rid of people that should not be in the business anyway.

If you can't figure it out and can't get a license under the SAFE Act, please go back to selling cars!

 

Fred Glick

 

Jan 15, 2010 12:43 AM
Howard Goff
Keller Williams Realty - Vancouver, WA

Fred,

Do you represent a bank or a broker?

Howard Goff. Team Leader
The Goff Team of Keller Williams
Serving Vancouver and Clark Country WA
www.TheGoffTeam.com
www.VancouverWAHomesNow.com

 

Jan 15, 2010 12:53 AM
Kathy Fuhriman
Bear River Valley Realty - Tremonton, UT

The reformed RESPA needed to include a final picture of the total monthly out of pocket that the borrower would be expected to pay.  This is the only real way for buyers to shop for a loan. After all with a 30 yr loan it doesn't matter that much what the lender discloses or not, the best loan for the borrower is the one with the least amount out of pocket each month or in other words, the smallest amount of outlay that will pay off the house in 30 yrs.  That is the real story...

Jan 15, 2010 12:53 AM
Karen Fiddler, Broker/Owner
Karen Parsons-Fiddler, Broker 949-510-2395 - Mission Viejo, CA
Orange County & Lake Arrowhead, CA (949)510-2395

I thought it was only a period of "restraint"? not really a moratorium on it's use? I have a transaction right now which would normally go to docs, but today she is being given the new RESPA and we are 3 days away from doing anything else. Silly

Jan 15, 2010 01:31 AM
Joetta Fort
The DiGiorgio Group - Arvada, CO
Independent Broker, Homes Denver to Boulder

I don't understand why lenders keep saying things like this, "not be able to provide them with the information they need to make a decision?"  Nothing about the new GFE prohibits you from providing additional information. 

Jan 15, 2010 01:33 AM
Thomas Minetti
Handyman Services - Ashburn, VA

I feel the same way, we are on the East Coast and the numbers just seems to confuse the customers more because their is no monthly payment, no POC's, and when you have a VA or USDA loan you have to add the funding fees in twice!!!.

I have sent the same GFE to three different major investors and the 2 out of the three have rejected same the Good Faith.  Once the loans were cancelled by the investors we reworked them and they are completely different from each other....

I thought that everyone was on the same page

 

Jan 15, 2010 02:06 AM
Erin Newington
5305573559 - Grass Valley, CA
Sierra Foothills Realtor

Fred: First off it is not very polite to make such a rude comment on others blog...

As your video posted on yourblog mentions... this new good faith estimate will confuse the borrowers and your solution is just to provide them with the old version of the good faith estimate for a reference (and call it something else). This post is about thenew good faith estimate. The good faith estimate is supposed to be a reference point for consumers to assist them in making a decision. Not only does it not show their complete payment, it will not reflect things like a credit from the seller. The old good faith estimate provided more of a complete picture for the borrower.

Rhode Island Real Estate: The PITI payment is on the clients application. The question comes up (since the consumer is trained to look at the good faith estimate)... Why is my payment different on these two forms (application and GFE)? It is nothing that can not be explained. I guess the point of this post is we are having to direct consumers to multiple forms to get the complete picture about their loan.

Jan 15, 2010 03:00 AM
Erin Newington
5305573559 - Grass Valley, CA
Sierra Foothills Realtor

Kathy: I agree buyers only care what their out of pocket expense are at the end of the day. They did a good job at making this new form more consumer friendly in many ways, but clients should not have to thumb through a lot of paperwork to fully understand their loan.

Joseph: Too funny!

Karen:You are right! I will edit my post! Many of the wholesale lenders have sent emails and referred to it as moratorium...but I can see now that my post could be confusing. Thanks!

Joetta: Again I understand your perspective but the biggest problem with the new form is that the information is no longer on one form. The information is available to the consumer, it is just no longer in one spot.

Jan 15, 2010 03:13 AM
Erin Newington
5305573559 - Grass Valley, CA
Sierra Foothills Realtor

Michael: Thanks! He was over the top!

Jacob: Yeah that is my biggest problem. My corporate office is putting out material so we can help train the wholesale departments... I real mess!

Jan 15, 2010 03:16 AM
Gene Riemenschneider
Home Point Real Estate - Brentwood, CA
Turning Houses into Homes

When government thinks they know better and do not trust the honest people doing the work they try and mircro manage and make it worse for all.

Jan 15, 2010 03:39 AM
Cindy Abel
Southern Nevada Realty, LLC - Las Vegas, NV

Well, the new regs have held up one of my deals as well.  Short sale I needed closed today!  Luckily, all parties in the transaction are on the ball and we are going to be okay. 

Jan 15, 2010 04:13 AM
Erin Newington
5305573559 - Grass Valley, CA
Sierra Foothills Realtor

Gene:I agree but the fact is there are shady people in our business... but no matter what changes are made they will find a way to cheat! The biggest way to cheat the new system is the fact that the consumer does not have to sign the new GFE. So the mortgage person can just slip in a new version of the form and not tell the consumer.

Cindy: Thanks for sharing this! I have not run this yet on deals that rolled over to 2010, but I will check my pipeline just in case!

Jan 15, 2010 04:25 AM
Mark Warner
RealEspace - Plano, TX

Erin,

You are right on with your comments. This is the same thing I said in a post I wrote about a week ago. It is really difficult for the loan officer and the borrower's interests to match up with this new GFE.

thanks,

Jan 15, 2010 05:34 AM
Karen Rittenhouse
www.JKKPropertyInvestors.com - Greensboro, NC
Real Estate Investor

I wrote the same things on my blog.  Who are the regulators who come up with new forms?  Are real estate agents even asked?  Are they "tried" before the decision is made to make them "law"?  How can things continue to be so jumbled??

Jan 15, 2010 05:45 AM
Erin Newington
5305573559 - Grass Valley, CA
Sierra Foothills Realtor

Mark: Thanks! It is apparent that some of the real estate agents don't understand what is going on. I can see if from their perspective though... how hard is it to calculate a mortgage payment or determine the buyers  fees. Trust me... I have been telling myself that from the beginning of the year! It just seem crazy we have to provide one GFE and then a fee sheet so the buyer really knows what is going on!

Karen: It would be nice if they tested this on some borrowers first to get their feedback!

Jan 15, 2010 06:42 AM
Gene perez
Greater Mortgage Solutions & Valley Hills Realty - Santa Maria, CA

but I thought this was suppose to be way better and easier for the consumer???? ;-)

Jan 15, 2010 06:43 AM
Kathy Opatka
RE/MAX CROSSROADS - Ocean City, MD
Serving Ocean City, MD, & The Delaware Beaches

I think the developers of this NEW FORM do not work with real people!  They sit in a room (not a THINK TANK!!) and guess at the info that MIGHT be helpful!  But where is the info. that would ANSWER the Buyer's questions????

Now we're going to get an amended form and all the bizillion forms that were printed will go in the landfill!!!

Jan 15, 2010 08:13 AM
John Cannata
214-728-0449 http://TexasLoanGuy.com - Frisco, TX
Texas Home Mortgage - Purchase or Refinance

You know what is ridiculous is that they don't make other companies say how much they make in retail. When I buy a shirt from a department store, they dont have to tell me how much it costs them and/or that I have an option to negotiate that cost. Im managing with the new changes, but there is still so much confusion in our industry, even from the Lenders who are suppose to be helping us through this process. Its almost better to work our 'wearhouse' line in order to avoid the whole YSP issue all together.

Jan 15, 2010 03:07 PM
Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
Real Estate Broker Retired

Good post, that's what I said about the final total amount to close. What IDIOT thought that wasn't an important amount? Nawww, a total is 'totally' not important.

Jan 16, 2010 05:40 AM