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How Fast to Release?

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Managing Real Estate Broker with Howard Hanna Rand Realty License # 49FA1074963

Back in December I wrote a blog post aimed at my fellow broker owners asking them how fast they paid their agents once a deal closed. The post was featured and got over 100 comments. It was gratifying to get input from my colleagues across the country. 

Today I have a new question, and this is also seldom discussed. When an agent resigns from your company, how long before you formally release them with the state? Here in New York, additions and terminations are done online on the Department of State website. One particular agent resigned yesterday, via email, and asked to be terminated right away. I responded that we needed to get our affairs reconciled and then I would do so. However, he was not able to meet with me until 2 days later (we are meeting tomorrow). We have a few things to discuss, and I don't want to give him his release without clear understandings on pending business, the return of signs and lock boxes, and some other housecleaning. 

I don't think it unreasonable to have company property returned prior to issuing the release. I don't want to trust the guy to do the right thing, especially this one, only to end up schlepping all over the place to pick up signs and lock boxes myself. That isn't right. If he had come in, spoken with me personally and returned the things I would have released him right away. However, today, 24 hours after his resignation email and prior to anything being returned, he sent me a critical email for not releasing him yet, with the clear suggestion that I was obstructing him. I think he's out of line there, but then again, we won't miss him for those very reasons. 

When he joined our company, things moved at a glacial pace. I didn't quibble about it. I don't see why I'm judged by a different standard than his last broker. To give you a little context, his next firm will be his 3rd firm in less than 7 months. He was here all of 180 days. 

Would you grant a release with loose ends untied? 

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Mandy Buchholz
Benchmark Realty, LLC - Murfreesboro, TN

Wow I pay for my own signs,lock boxes and monthly dues. My broker did not pay for anything not even my name tag. To bad you did not realize he was not the kind of agent you would want to represent your company. My father taught me we are only as good as our word.

Jan 20, 2010 01:45 PM
Lise Howe
RLAH RE LLC - Washington, DC
Assoc. Broker in DC, MD, VA and attorney in DC

Interesting - here in Maryland/DC we pay for our own signs, lockboxes, and monthly dues too. Sorry that the agent is moving on again - what a nuisance for you.

Jan 20, 2010 01:58 PM
J. Philip Faranda
Howard Hanna Rand Realty - White Plains, NY
Associate Broker / Office Manager

I loaned him some signs until he established himself. Agents quitting is part of the business, so it isn't a big deal-or much of a loss. 

One of the issues I actually had with him was how intrusive he was about how I run the company. It is MY firm! He should be sitting down and learning but that is another post. 

Jan 20, 2010 02:27 PM
Bob & Carolin Benjamin
Benjamin Realty LLC - Gold Canyon, AZ
East Phoenix Arizona Homes

Before we were on our own we never had a broker pay for anything -- surprised to hear that a broker somewhere in the world did that .

Jan 20, 2010 02:59 PM
Tammy Lankford,
Lane Realty Eatonton, GA Lake Sinclair, Milledgeville, 706-485-9668 - Eatonton, GA
Broker GA Lake Sinclair/Eatonton/Milledgeville

In Georgia the real estate law prohibits non release by a broker.  I have to literally hand the agent his license if he has the signature of a new sponsoring broker or immediately mail it to the state *my choice.  All "after termination" issues are required by law to be included in the Independent brokerage agreement already and all listings are retained by the broker so my signs and lock-boxes can stay in place as listings do not belong to agents in Georgia, only to brokers.

I'm being shocked by the comments about brokers not paying for anything.  I hire agents, I provide them with office space, pay for all signs with the exception of name riders, pay for all postage for mail outs, all mls fees.  I have great agents and they stay with me long term.  In 15 years I've had several retire and just 1 leave and go to another firm.

Jan 20, 2010 04:09 PM
Miriam Bernstei
Rochester, NY

It is one thing to loan signs and other items it is another to not require a deposit amount so that an agent will have a reason to come in  immediately and return items.  You may be the one living and learning here.

Jan 20, 2010 09:30 PM
J. Philip Faranda
Howard Hanna Rand Realty - White Plains, NY
Associate Broker / Office Manager

Thanks for your comments. My first broker loaned me my first few signs until I bought my own and I modeled his actions. 

Miriam- I can deduct the expense from an upcoming commission, as the deals have to remain with the firm. No worries there.  I just don't want to have my signs in dumpsters or leaning on the side of a garage.

Tammy, I don't think it is a coincidence that you have low attrition. I don't think we are allowed to hold an agent "hostage" in my state either, but I'm not sure the law is so draconian. If he came in I'd give him his license. He hasn't yet.  

Jan 20, 2010 10:29 PM
Barb Szabo, CRS
RE/MAX Above & Beyond - Cleveland, OH
E-pro Realtor, Cleveland Ohio Homes

It's a tough call as it depends on what you are required to do by law as the broker. I assume you told him you want all your signs and lock boxes back? How did he respond to that?

Jan 20, 2010 11:15 PM