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Should agents be ranked and if yes, by whom?

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with Cimpler Real Estate, Inc. CA BRE# 01330941

As I mentioned in my post “Can Zillow Annihilate Realtors?”, Zillow is planning to launch agent ranking system.  This is really what I wanted to talk about, but somehow I drifted to prospects of our annihilation by Zillow.

Do clients need to find out how agent ranks by accessing Zillow (or any other site for that matter) today? Aren’t market results (numbers of sold homes) transparent enough when we drive through neighborhood on Sunday afternoon and read agents signs? Before I answer this question, let me remind you how clients were finding agents in pre-Internet age and how agents were ranked at that time.

We competed at the market place, advertised in newspapers, knocked to clients doors, sent postcards, etc. More money we made selling homes, more we could spend on advertising. By doing it we were improving our name recognition and this lead to more business. At the end, those who close most sales, made most money and were considered better agents. We knew that best of us according to this criterion, not necessarily were providing the best service in terms of answering all questions, and fully satisfying all client requirements. However, they were achieving the key objective of every client – selling or buying a house.

Then came Internet. It is changing many things, but really has not yet affected fundamental rules of real estate. Let’s me use an example of the San Mateo County, CA on San Francisco Peninsula (it is tucked between San Francisco and Silicon Valley). One would think that this would make it susceptible to change. The reality is that it is one of the most conservative counties in the country, largely unaffected yet by Internet. The business belongs to long term agents. They know the clients as they went to school together. Did Internet affect them? Yes it did. It helped them to modify the 20/80 rule (the 20% of agents owns 80% of the market) to the 10/90 rule (10% of agents owns 90% of the market). We know that clients love to do their Internet research. They see the listings and the see a few names. Then, they drive around and see agent signs and recognize the names they found on Internet. So, Internet helped best sellers to get even more recognition.

So, where is the place for Zillow to tell us who the best agents are?  It is not here, at least today. The fundamentals of real estate have not yet changed.

Let me ask you a question. Who AR agents are? Who are you? Are you an experienced and successful agent who is preparing for the change caused by Internet or are you a new agent (or not yet a top seller) in the business and trying to wrestle the business from well established agents? I know who San Mateo County AR agents are. According to my estimate, the majority of San Mateo AR agents belong to the second category.

Will number of AR points help us to compete at the market place? Obviously we hope so. However, it will take time and the amount of time will be different in different parts of the country. The market place is changing.  Client behavior is changing. Yesterday, clients were happy with agents who helped them to close a transaction and it was easy to know who the best agents according to this criterion where. We just counted Open House signs and knew who the Best is!

However, tomorrow the market place will be much more complex. Clients will know more and will request from agents not just the basic knowledge (of course the need for good negotiation and closing skills will always be there!), but they will demand more knowledge or different knowledge that they found on Internet. We will have many categories of good agents. Some will still be best in closing transactions; other will provide consulting and fulfill more diversified knowledge-wise needs of clients. Clients will need to understand differences between different categories of agents and who is best in which category. And here is room not just for Zillow but for other entrepreneurs as well. In categories where the sign counting is not sufficient to know who are the best, clients will be looking for guidance. And these future opportunities are another justification for our time investment in AR.

Scott Daniels Florida Real Estate 2.0. Agents Earn 100% Commission.
Florida List For Less Realty, Inc. Broker/Owner. - Cooper City, FL

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I pray that Z does that. I encourage a ranking system.

Jul 12, 2007 11:19 PM
Artur Urbanski
Cimpler Real Estate, Inc. - Burlingame, CA
Helping property owners to maximize property value
Scott, thank you for your comment. Are you familiar with Agentopolis (http://www.agentopolis.com )? This is another start up providing agent ranking. What do you think about them?
Jul 12, 2007 11:25 PM
Scott Daniels Florida Real Estate 2.0. Agents Earn 100% Commission.
Florida List For Less Realty, Inc. Broker/Owner. - Cooper City, FL

AU,

Yes, I`ve seen it. I have complete confidance in my abilities as a Professional..

Rankings help our business,it doesn`t affect it at all..

Jul 12, 2007 11:33 PM
TheMillsTeam YourSebringRealtors
Advantage Realty #1 - Sebring, FL
863-212-5441
When looking at how accurate or rather INACCURATE Zillow is when it comes to estimating the value of a home, I don't even want to think about how accurate their agent ranking system might be.
Jul 12, 2007 11:39 PM
Miriam Bernstei
Rochester, NY
Do you know how the ranking will work? Public input? Statistical?  Personally I think it is a bad idea.  The system works fine now.  The public interviews us, gets referrals, trusts their judgement and hires and fires as needed.  What would a ranking system add.  Agents who dominate markets, does that mean that a newer agent shouldn't be given a chance, how does that get factored in.  Will other agents be in a position to rate their competition?  Need to know what they propose.
Jul 12, 2007 11:44 PM
Katerina Gasset
The Gasset Group & Get It Done For Me Virtual Services - Provo, UT
Amplify Your Real Estate & Life Dreams!

I think it is not a fair model. Because a good agent is not always the one out in front on the signs. We have some in our area who stink big time but just advertise a lot. Also, some agents can spend ALL their money on advertising to build up a name because they are not the single bread earner in their home. There are single moms and dads who are very good agents who can not spend that kind of money on marketing. How does the amount of money and the amount of signs you have make you a good or bad agent? 

Also, in our luxury home market with prices in the 2-5 million range; agents don't sell as many homes but we make more money on a sale than the average agent does and we do not have to do as many deals. Because we may choose to leverage our time this way, does that make us bad agents? We will not have all the signs out  because our communities do not allow signs. 

We work from referrals from prior clients and agents that like us and know we give good service and pay our referral fees!  So because we choose not to waste our money in newspaper print ads like most people do, does that define the type of agent we are? I think not. Katerina

Jul 12, 2007 11:54 PM
Janie Coffey
First Coast Sotheby’s International Realty - Ponte Vedra, FL
Uniting Extraordinary Homes w/ Extraordinary Lives
we use Quality Service Certified which allows our closed clients to rank us.  They are, after all, the only ones with the TRUE best knowledge to rank us!
Jul 13, 2007 12:20 AM
Artur Urbanski
Cimpler Real Estate, Inc. - Burlingame, CA
Helping property owners to maximize property value
Andrea, Zestimates are inaccurate, but they serve a purpose. With ranking of agents it is quite tricky.  What criterion will they use? The number of homes sold? This I can do myself. It would be interesting to see their criteria for ranking. Thanks for your reply.
Jul 13, 2007 05:00 AM
Artur Urbanski
Cimpler Real Estate, Inc. - Burlingame, CA
Helping property owners to maximize property value

Miriam, these are all excellent questions.  Thank you very much. This was exactly my point. Existing system, while not perfect, is working.  I have just used an example of Agentopolis, as they try to rank agents. What authority they have to do that? Why should I give credibility to their ranking? Zillow is a better known name, but so is IBM (to be a little bit fictitious). Would I trust IBM agent ranking if the came with one, because they are a known entity? I don’t think so. But everything depends on criteria they will use, and we don’t know yet what they will be. If they come up with multiple criteria that are accurate and add value to my choice as a consumer, that’s might have value. But that’s a “tall call”.

Jul 13, 2007 05:17 AM
Artur Urbanski
Cimpler Real Estate, Inc. - Burlingame, CA
Helping property owners to maximize property value

Nestor and Katerina, I really appreciate your point. The current system favors those with deep pockets. There is a plenty of very good agents and brokers, who "don't make the numbers" and they definitely should be better exposed. If someone can come up with a meaningful ranking system with several different categories that would definitely help. Is it possible? Is Zillow in a position to do that? I doubt – as they don’t have the knowledge and expertise. Additionally, Zillow lost their credibility with agents  Could we at AR try to come up with a better system? What do you think?

Jul 13, 2007 05:38 AM
Artur Urbanski
Cimpler Real Estate, Inc. - Burlingame, CA
Helping property owners to maximize property value
Janie, thanks for your reply. The client ranking works with the passed clients, as you said. How would it work with potential future clients? If I see agent testimonials myself, I dont necessarily trust them. Do you post these rankings yourself or someone else is doing it?
Jul 13, 2007 05:43 AM
Shane Sarae
Honolulu, HI
Thank you very much for sharing, at the end of the day I think most clients work with people they like and trust...of course the market place is changing and it will be interesting to see what happens over the next 10 years with flat rate and discounters.
Jul 13, 2007 05:45 PM
Artur Urbanski
Cimpler Real Estate, Inc. - Burlingame, CA
Helping property owners to maximize property value

Shane, thank you for your comment. I just watched the DVD of Dejavu (never seen it in the movie theatre). I wish we could mix up a little bit of the past with a little bit of the future and take a "sneak peak". Wouldn't it be fun? But only we could do it, of course.

Jul 13, 2007 06:15 PM
Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

If Zillow is as off in ranking agents as it is with its "Zestimates" in the Washington, DC area, I say "YIKES!"  

Also, I think that consumers are as interested in the quality of the service an agent provides as they are in the agent's production numbers.   

Jul 15, 2007 03:06 AM
Artur Urbanski
Cimpler Real Estate, Inc. - Burlingame, CA
Helping property owners to maximize property value
Hi Patricia, I agree with you on both points. Thank you for your reply.
Jul 15, 2007 01:40 PM
Pat Emmett
Prudential Palms Realty - Sarasota, FL

Our company belongs to the Quality Service Certification system.  This allows former customers to rate our services and post their opinions on-line.  Most of the agents think it's a great idea & are sure that their score will be so high that the testimonials will help with future business. 

There are websites that rate doctors,dentists,lawyers, etc. and allow comments good & bad, so why not our profession?  

Jul 15, 2007 01:45 PM
Artur Urbanski
Cimpler Real Estate, Inc. - Burlingame, CA
Helping property owners to maximize property value
Pat, I am not familiar with the Qualitay CerificationSystem. Can you send me information about it?  I would like to see how it works. Thank you very much.
Jul 15, 2007 02:52 PM
Maribeth Messineo Peters
214-566-1210 - Dallas, TX
Dallas native-Preston Hollow Greenway Parks expert

I think the agent rating will only be as effective as the numbers of users who use it. Are we supposed to direct our clients to the Zillow site to rank us. I know many of my clients are on the Internet but they do not use Zillow since the information is so weak for Texas. We are a nondisclosure state so their Zestimates are incredibly inaccurate.

 It will interesting to see how this goes.

Sep 16, 2007 12:57 PM
Artur Urbanski
Cimpler Real Estate, Inc. - Burlingame, CA
Helping property owners to maximize property value
Maribeth, there are a lot of efforts to rank agents, but I haven't seen yet anything that might work everywhere,  Have you seen the call from George Swann and his ideas?  I am not convict to this one either. As a matter of fact, Zilllow might have better chances to do it, at least in some states.
Sep 16, 2007 01:07 PM
Anonymous
betina

I don't trust Zillow or Trulia to "rank" agents fairly or accurately. They have clearly already skewed the rankings or agent lists on their sites. They promote the agents that pay them a monthly fee over the agents that have been delivering home content and answering user questions for their websites for years. For eample I have been on Trulia for over four years and answering questions and uploading house photos and blogging, and yet I don't show up on their list of Realtors until all of the Trulia "Pro" agents have been listed. Now I feel this is misleading when someone who got out of real estate school yesterday can pay $50 a month to be listed as a Pro over those with actual exerience and time spent helping the site provide actual information and live listings.

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