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Some people in my industry don't get it... RESPA is real!

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I was recently sitting in a room full of Realtors and I heard something that shocked me! A mortgage professional in Elk Grove, Ca. stood up and made an announcement that whoever sent them the most mortgage client leads for the month would win a trip to a cabin for the weekend. I kinda just sat there and waited for others to react... but no one really did.

You see... it is this little thing called RESPA. I can not offer Realtors any type of compensation for sending us a client. Maybe noone reacted because they were Realtors and they are used to giving referral fees. It is perfectly legal for a Realtor to refer a client to another agent in exchange for a percentage of the total commission.

I read a great article by R. Sebastian Gibson about this subject! He says...

"Section 8 of RESPA quite explicitly and forcefully prohibits a person from giving or accepting a fee, kickback or anything of value for referrals of settlement service businesses relating to a federally regulated mortgage loan. It also prohibits fee-splitting or a person from giving or accepting any part of a charge for services that are not performed.

A person in violation of Section 8 cam be fined up to $10,000 and imprisoned for up to one year. In a civil lawsuit, a person in violation of Section 8 can be liable to the person who was charged for a settlement service an amount equal to three times the amount of the charge paid by the person for the service, and for the person's attorneys fees."

Well I guess everyone runs their Elk Grove mortgage business differently! I choose to keep myself out of the illegal zone! 

With everything going on in the mortgage industry these days... why would you even go there? Why would you even go there...period?

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Karen Fiddler, Broker/Owner
Karen Parsons-Fiddler, Broker 949-510-2395 - Mission Viejo, CA
Orange County & Lake Arrowhead, CA (949)510-2395

Interesting....I'm not sure how many people think they HAVE to abide by these rules. As long as the client is cared for and all goes well...who cares. But these rules are in place for a reason, and we have to obey them. Not everyone gets it.

Jan 30, 2010 04:12 AM
Sajy Mathew
Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage - Lancaster, PA
Making your real estate dreams become a reality!

These people are taking a huge chance for minimal gain in my mind.  Is it worth losing your job or your company to reward a lead?  You should be able to create relationships with people where they feel like they want to help your business w/o some reward.

Jan 30, 2010 04:13 AM
Bob & Carolin Benjamin
Benjamin Realty LLC - Gold Canyon, AZ
East Phoenix Arizona Homes

Well likely he will get it when he is in jail -- have not seen anything that blatant in a long long time.

Jan 30, 2010 04:27 AM
Erin Newington
5305573559 - Grass Valley, CA
Sierra Foothills Realtor

Karen: I agree... the rules are in place for a reason!

Sajy: They are very short sided! How about doing a good job and getting the business back that way!

Bob: Yep I am just no into jail time!

Thanks for your comments!

Jan 30, 2010 05:08 AM
Donne Knudsen
Los Angeles & Ventura Counties in CA - Simi Valley, CA
CalState Realty Services

Erin - I hate crap like this for so many reasons.  First and foremost, as you have stated, it's just flat out illegal and unethical.  Secondly, it sets a bad precedence that you will pay for leads.  Thirdly, it instills in Realtors the mentality that we (LO's) need buy their referrals.  It also sets another precedence that their referrals are worth more than our referrals because LO's have just as many opportunities to refer as Realtors do.

I could go on but just suffice it to say that crap like this is just so wrong on so many levels and I have never engaged in this type of behavior and/or activity. 

Jan 30, 2010 05:36 AM
Erin Newington
5305573559 - Grass Valley, CA
Sierra Foothills Realtor

Donne: Well said! It is not how I want to build my business!

Jan 30, 2010 07:52 AM
Lori Mode
The Mode Real Estate Group - Elk Grove, CA
Real Estate Made Simple

Erin - I'm not sure how this loan company thinks this is going to get them leads that they wouldn't get anyway...agents really should refer business to ethical and hard working mortgage professionals!  Not who is going to send them on a ski trip!

Jan 31, 2010 04:00 PM
Erin Newington
5305573559 - Grass Valley, CA
Sierra Foothills Realtor

I couldn't agree more Lori! I would rather get my deal closed on time!

Feb 01, 2010 08:26 AM